[DonRoberto]

The Guardian - Link

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I am 23 years old, male, and have had sex with only three women. Most people would agree this is very few, especially considering I have only been in two relationships. I have not had sex for more than a year. I recently got to know someone close to my age, and we got on well. I found out, however, that she had slept with more than 50 men and was unable to put this out of my head. I find myself feeling disgusted and jealous towards women who have slept with many more people than me. But, at my age, it seems all attractive women are well into double figures. I feel trapped and that the older I get, the more extreme the issue will become.

Five pages of comments. Some just boring blue pill, but being a liberal newspaper a TON of hamsters spinning somewhat amusingly in the comments.

Someone should just tell this guy to buy BANG...

[cardguy]

Most guys don't realise that most chicks have had more partners than them.

It is the old 80/20 principle.

I only figured this out for myself when I was about 27!

[Days of Broken Arrows]

If someone happened to comment over there and directed the guy over here, this is what I think he needs to know.

Sometime around 2011, Roissy (Heartiste) wrote that it's no accomplishment for any reasonably attractive woman to sleep with a lot of men, because it's very easy for them to do it. This is the female equivalent of a guy who fucks fat chicks. We all can do it. But why where would that leave us except damaged for future relationships.

Locking down a high-quality man is much harder. And if this guy likes "relationships," this is the kind of woman he needs to be thinking about.

And there is no double standard. As the folk saying goes, a key that can open many locks is a master key; a lock that can be opened by many keys is a faulty lock. (Last sentence taken from Matt Forney's blog.)

[Gopnik]

@DBA^^ How is that not a double standard? IMO women and men are different so they should be judged differently and that is indeed a double standard.

Notice how in the comments, they all defend the slut instead of giving the guy some advice on his frustrating (lack of) sex life.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(03-29-2014 04:45 PM)Luisaceo Wrote:  

@DBA^^ How is that not a double standard? IMO women and men are different so they should be judged differently and that is indeed a double standard.

Notice how in the comments, they all defend the slut instead of giving the guy some advice on his frustrating (lack of) sex life.

If you have apples and oranges, judging the apples as apples and the oranges as oranges is not a double standard. It's two different standards because they're two different things.

It's a double standard only when you judge the same thing two different ways. Let me think of an example....hmmm...

Wait! I know. The way women deem men they don't like to be sexual harassers when they display the exact same behaviors as men they do like.

[cardguy]

So basically women are only interested in relationships and not sex?

[player]

Have added a comment with a link to LaidNYC's excellent post.

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The opposite situation of a man who is too easy with commitment: The Parable of Mark and Lauren

[Saga]

One of the 'top' comments:

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You seem to be very much focused on sex

Wait, guys in their early 20s are focused on sex?

[Suits]

(03-29-2014 05:13 PM)cardguy Wrote:  

So basically women are only interested in relationships and not sex?

[RawGod]

Rollo's concept of the SMV Curve is probably the single most important concept of the 2010s era manosphere, that was lacking in the earlier PUA community. Wish someone had been able to point me to this when I was 23.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

Here's a really good post on double standards written by Roissy back in April, 2007. It's also kind of neat (for me, anyway) to see the first two comments are by Roosh and...Days of Broken Arrows.

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2007/04/1...standards/

[player]

(03-29-2014 07:05 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

Here's a really good post on double standards written by Roissy back in April, 2007. It's also kind of neat (for me, anyway) to see the first two comments are by Roosh and...Days of Broken Arrows.

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2007/04/1...standards/

Roissy's fifth post! I saw yours and Roosh's comments the other day when looking through his posts. You're a lucky man to have read Roissy since the very beginning!

RawDog - yes, everything starts to make sense when you consider Rollo's SMV graph and Heartiste's The Fundamental Premise. As you're probably aware Rollo's last few fantastic posts have been going into more depth on the SMV graph: http://therationalmale.com/

[demolition]

(03-29-2014 05:13 PM)cardguy Wrote:  

So basically women are only interested in relationships and not sex?

Women are interested in attention / emotional validation.
Notice how women are intent on invading all male spaces, and notice how when they do so, almost always the first thing they do is point out how they are a woman and as such create these dynamics of sucking up male attention without ever having ever done anything of note.

Look at other scenarios, do men feel the need to insinuate themselves into female spaces? No. Do men point out how they have a penis at every opportunity, making it a focal point of discussions on any topic, from politics to entertainment, medicine, technology?

The more I think about this type of behavior the more I realize the wisdom of the past in excluding women from male spaces and being hostile to this sort of attention-whoring behavior. When women can get 80% of the emotional validation they want just by finding a social niche and existing, they don't feel the need or desire to maintain their attractiveness and femininity, things they used to need to cultivate to garner male attention.

For women living in modern society getting attention is so easy it's is like a man with women who just come up and offer to blow him with no seduction necessary. If you're having your sexual needs fulfilled to that extent, how much effort are you going to expend on cultivating game and other self-improvement? That's the sort of power differential feminism has created.

[Samseau]

A pretty revealing comment from one of the female commenters. Checks-off every cliche in the book.

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I'm in my 40s and have slept with a lot of men, but it's something I'm neither proud nor ashamed of - it's just how things have panned out for me.
One of the reasons my figure is so high is that I've never found a man who was truly interested in an LTR (two years 'focused' or five years 'vaguely' is the longest I've sustained).
So, that's obviously a flaw in me, or in my choice of men, but I'm not going to give up looking, and if means I have to sleep with a few more, so be it. It doesn't mean that I'm promiscuous, or solely seeking to bump up my figures - I would gladly have settled with 4-5 of my exes, and still believe I'd be happily monogamous if I met the right man.
It just hasn't happened yet!

No guilt. No recognition of fault. Huge hypergamous slut. No willingness to change. Believes she is good enough "as is."

A lot of guys keep saying that spinsters have this horrible lonely future, but all I see is how much a woman's hampster kicks into overdrive the older she gets. They don't suffer from their previous consequences, because they rationalize their failures. Thus they never really understand how they wasted their youth, they do not learn any lessons and they do not teach any knowledge. If anything, spinsters can be dangerous to other young women, and corrupt impressionable young girls into following the same sort of destructive lifestyle. I think deep-down inside, most girls would hate to end up a spinster, though.

[jamaicabound]

If a girl has whorish tendencies the only way a guy can compete numberwise is during college. I always joked with friends college isn't likee real life. I went to a college in a college town. I think you lose kind of the college mentality going to a commuter college or even a college in a large city because then your still in the real world so to speak.

In a college town however where students outnumber townies the college lifestyle becomes the norm and real life so everyone working jbos is somewhat of a slacker so that becomes the work mentality, everyone is walking around high or drunk or fucked up all the time so that becomes the norm.

The real way I notice this not hte real world thing is I think back at home in Chicago you go out to a bar there still seems to be the stranger danger factor girls are concerned about their friends. In college there seems to be this mentality that hey we both go to the same school so your okay lets fuck after 2 minutes of talking.

I remembr when I first went to collge I was fresh out of a teen bootcamp type deal hadn't even looked at a girl in like 8 moonths. Graduated a year early so was only 17. I remember my first week at college went home with a different girl every night, some nights 2. I remember having a goal to continue this through the entire semester, of course couldn't keep that going but still got about 60% of my notches in college just by sheer numbers in such a short period of tiem.

[cardguy]

Not just that. You never get to see as many hot girls again as you do in college.

[Blackwell]

When I stuff like this it just makes me so thankful, so grateful for my youth and the knowledge that will allow me not to make the same mistakes as the many men before me.

It's like a kind of reverse inspiration, I see exactly how I don't want my life to turn out and it lights a fire under me.

Recently I've been going with treating all females as whores until I am proved otherwise. I mean it has to better than the opposite right? Men everywhere have to prove themselves every single day and chicks should have to do the same.

The value of a person should be earned not given freely.

[Jukes]

(03-29-2014 04:45 PM)Luisaceo Wrote:  

@DBA^^ How is that not a double standard? IMO women and men are different so they should be judged differently and that is indeed a double standard.

Notice how in the comments, they all defend the slut instead of giving the guy some advice on his frustrating (lack of) sex life.

I bet the advice given would be " Don ' t worry . They someone for everyone . " Or something similar .

[Rollo Tomassi]

The Real Double Standards:

http://therationalmale.com/2012/06/15/double-standards/

[Kingsley Davis]

[quote='Rollo Tomassi' pid='740766' dateline='1401493937']
The Real Double Standards:

http://therationalmale.com/2012/06/15/double-standards/
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Yohami's brilliant comment prove the lady doth protest too much.

"When girls complain about that double standard it doesnt mean they want to fix reality and standards and morals. What it means is in it emotional content.
The content is that she wants to fuck a lot of guys and doesnt want to be shamed for it.
Which becomes a tease: so, what you’re saying is that you want to bang a lot of dudes, right? and she´ll giggle. And we´ll end up fucking."