[dontuan]

I feel like a thread like this is long overdue but it would be immensely helpful if we had a list of what guys should keep an eye out for to determine if a place is good for love tourists. Roosh does a good job with addressing these, but not everyone is mindful of these crucial factors when reporting their experiences. Such guidelines, I think, should make for better data sheets.

Here are my suggestions for "Indicators of Ease." Think of them as IOIs, to borrow the term. Some are intuitive (male-female ratio at night venues), others are less so.

High concentration of young girls in their 20's: I noticed college towns are the most target rich places. While big cities offer a lot of targets too compared to small ones, the vibe and energy aren't as warm or receptive as when you have a community of enthusiastic girls who are i the midst of enjoying freedom from living with their parents for the first time.

High percentage of pretty girls: When good looks aren't so scarce, it keeps their egos from getting out of control. You want girls to feel flattered that you find them attractive, not that they're the best in show.

Degree of foreigner infiltration: I observed that generally whenever a venue has a lot of foreign guys, it's a bad sign. Girls at these places tend to have more attitude and you're exotic factor is almost nil.

Girls with busted dudes: Places where the girls date down means the market is skewed in your favor.

Cordial Rejections: If you're getting friendly reactions instead of cold shutdowns, it's a good sign that there are a lot of receptive girls.

Curious eye contact: It's even better if locking eyes is followed up by a flirtatious smile. If you're in a place where you're getting a ton of warm looks, it means the girls are dying to be opened.

"out to hookup" behavior at clubs/bars: These are things like girls who aren't surrounded by groups and stay within their cliques. The places that give me that warm and fuzzy feeling are when I see girls dancing in a steamy way with guys (not just with each other), get drunk, grind, a lot of making out with guys they didn't come there with. Basically, they're out to have fun and meet new dudes.

Poshness of venue: Upscale, fancy places tend to the have the bitchiest, stuck up girls. The less pretentious, the better.

Girls interested in new, different places It's funny, but when girls are very proud of where they live, it's not something you want to hear. Even if they generally like where they are, it's usually more helpful when they have some degree of dissatisfaction about it.

Of course, every place is different so it's a case by case basis. Roosh mentioned instances where place with a ton foreigners can be a good thing, so this exception should be noted as well when reporting experiences. If there's something you guys disagree on or have any more suggestions, feel free to add. Also I'm wondering what cities would you nominate as best fitting such IOE criteria. Would love to hear your own observations .

[Greek kamaki]

Good places for love tourists:When you look around everything looks decadent.Rotten buildings,ruined infrastructure,cheap cars on the streets.Simoultaneously women parading on sexy clothes,lots of drunks and slavic accent everywhere.This is the real heaven.Also places with black Mercedes,mafia guys with uniforms,half of shops selling only drinks,no kebab shops,lots of cold,guys very slim or pumped up with red faces from alcohol spitting on the streets,every guy with very short hair and dark clothes and girls dolled up to the maximum.

[Biologist]

All really good points Dontuan.

The universal rule seems to be that if you're a man from a developed country (North America, UK, Western Europe, Australia etc), you are at an advantage when gaming in an undeveloped country (South America, Eastern Europe, South-East Asia).

Wherever you go, you need to consider your race/nationality - go to where you'll be more likely to succeed. For example, in East Asia/South-East Asia, White guys tend to do pretty well, whereas Black guys tend to not. However, in Northern Europe, Black guys tend to do really well.

Generally, cities with a low number of foreigners (regardless of where they are from) are good. Any city with a high proportion of students is also good as many 18-23 year old women are down to fuck with guys who are more financially established compared to their male classmates.

[Tail Gunner]

(03-23-2014 09:56 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

no kebab shops

LMAO

[Greek kamaki]

You also have to pay attention to cars on the streets and the clothes of the girls. The ideal combination is many cheap cars and many girls with cheap clothes. The best cars that could cause erections by Pavlov"s reflex are:
1.Classic Lada in FSU.
2.Fiat Polski in Poland
3. The old Skoda in former Czechoslovakia.
When you see quantities of the above mentioned cars it is clear that the place is worth your stay.The Lada machine is music for the ears.
Imagine the situation 15 years ago when 90% of cars in the above mentioned countries belonged to these categories and you can understand the satisfaction of penis at these legendary times.

Very important is also the music you hear. Horny musicmeaning you are likely going to fuck):
1.Traditional Ukrainian dances
2.Disco polo
3.Czech country
When you hear these sounds you should check out for easy girls.

[jasond]

Here's the best indicator: look at who is working the counter at the local McDonalds (or similar cheap food eatery). If you see young cute girls making french fries, it means that the supply/demand situation in the city will be working in your favor.

[dontuan]

Oh yeah I love it when I see that. Model hotties slaving over making a greasy falafel. In america, the lowest pretty girls would go is manning the makeup counter

(03-24-2014 12:49 PM)jasond Wrote:  

Here's the best indicator: look at who is working the counter at the local McDonalds (or similar cheap food eatery). If you see young cute girls making french fries, it means that the supply/demand situation in the city will be working in your favor.

[Greek kamaki]

Other indicators:
Dogs.Good countries have very few dogs on the streets.
Children.In good countries you see many moms pushing prams but very few children running yelling or crying for attention.
Disabled.In good countries you will see very few disabled on the streets.
Drunks.In good countries you will see lots of drunks at any time of the day.
Shops opening hours.In good countries there are open shops all day and night for the needs of alcohol,food and cigarettes.
Girls strolling with moms.Very common in good countries.This has the meaning of mom carefully inspecting the potential fuckers of her daughter gaining extra traction from them by her.
Girls with lots of gold on them.Very common in good countries.You see especially big earrings.
Girls with high heels.A phenomenon in good countries.
Taxis everywhere.In good countries.
Clubs absolutely central.In good countries.
Communist blocks of flats where all buildings look the same.Promising situation.In good countries.
Cute girls begging for cigarettes or money.In good countries.
Girls drinking on benches.In good countries.
Women exposing their breasts to give milk to their babies in public.In good countries.
Girls on pic nic in forests or parks in underwear.In good countries.
Girls drinking vodka near local river in the noon.In good countries.
When the sky has become green or red from the factory fumes.The city is good.
Marshutky on the streets.Very good possibilities.
No malls,no Mc Donalds,half of the shops about mobile telephones,90% of clothing shops,shoes shops and hairdressing are for women and 10% for men.The city is good.

[Greek kamaki]

Opposite to that.Bad cities.
In bad cities you will see lots of dogs walking the streets like kings since many women get fucked by dogs as men have lost interest in them.
Children.In bad cities there will be children runing,throwing themselves to you,yelling and calling for attention essentially cockblocking you.
Disabled.In bad countries there are disabled everywhere.You cannot walk to a hottie in bus without a wheelchair running over your feet.
Bicycles.In bad countries there are lots of bicycles.They are quiet so when you try to control your priapism they come after you in speed and pass some cm from you only to scare you,irritate you and lose the priapic state caused by the amazing hottie in the opposite direction.
Shops opening hours.In bad countries shops close early so you cannot get alcohol or even water or condoms.The point is to sleep early to go to work instead of engaging in debaucheries.
Girls strolling with moms.No way to see this in lands of independant girls and thirsty cougars.
Girls with lots of gold on them.It is considered gypsy display in bad cities.You will not even see earrings let alone big ones.Only bare ears will be left for your visual pleasure.
In bad cities girls prefer comfort and no pain and choose flat shoes with no heels.
Taxis everywhere.Only in your dreams in bad cities.There is no way a taxi driver there to wait for hours till you pick up a hottie and finger her in his taxi.He will prefer to sleep than do the extra mile.
Clubs km outside the centre.So the wild youth can drink narcotics out of curious eyes.

[EU Explorer]

(03-24-2014 12:24 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

3.Czech country music
When you hear these sounds you should check out for easy girls.

Does the CR have its own Glenn Campbell then? Glenn Campbova ?

I think he sings 'when I get to Plzen' (instead of Phoenix!)

[dontuan]

Just realized another one while working some sets today. When the girl can speak some decent english, but not like a native. I found the less fluent in English is, the more receptive and warm her personality tends to be.

[Enjoying Manila]

(03-24-2014 12:56 PM)dontuan Wrote:  

Oh yeah I love it when I see that. Model hotties slaving over making a greasy falafel. In america, the lowest pretty girls would go is manning the makeup counter

(03-24-2014 12:49 PM)jasond Wrote:  

Here's the best indicator: look at who is working the counter at the local McDonalds (or similar cheap food eatery). If you see young cute girls making french fries, it means that the supply/demand situation in the city will be working in your favor.

Not that simple. Young hotties do work in Mc Donalds in EE, but, still it does not mean they will automatically be easy to game. I know it isn't logical, but, turns out they are not logical themselves : Even desperate, they may prefer not to fuck a tourist... they have their pride, and will therefore, sadly, remain poor, and, more sadly, unfucked.

[BallsDeep]

What EE countries don't have dogs all over the place?

Ukraine, Romania and Russia have stray dogs everywhere!

[dontuan]

A friend of mine told me a very good one. One important factor in determining whether a country is good is to observe certain dynamics at clubs. Places where girls tend to stick in their cliques is a bad sign, meaning that people socialize through friends of friends and aren't as open to meeting strangers outside of their social circle. The best places are environments where women are open to meeting strangers, obviously.

[DarkKing]

(03-24-2014 07:06 PM)EU Explorer Wrote:  

(03-24-2014 12:24 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

3.Czech country music
When you hear these sounds you should check out for easy girls.

Does the CR have its own Glenn Campbell then? Glenn Campbova ?

I think he sings 'when I get to Plzen' (instead of Phoenix!)

The "ova" suffix in Czech is used only for females. So a chick from the Campbell family would be called Campbellova. There is no change for male surnames.

This is an example of Czech "country" (video is from the 1970s)

[Brodiaga]

I think the main signs have already been covered here, but here are a couple more that i use to distinguish between good and bad places:

If a city is good for nightlife, you still need to know where to go, but you don't need connections, be on a guest list or make friends with douchebag doormen to get in. A wait in line to a club should never take longer than a 5-10 minutes. If it does, then fucking doormen are cunts and keep you waiting because you are undesirable, a second class citizen who should wait outside for the cool people to get in. I've seen long lines to clubs in Thailand and Indonesia, and it never took me longer than a few minutes to get in. For guys, a line of the same length in New York can take half an hour or more. In Miami, you may not be able to get in at all. I say fuck that shit. I've actually stopped going to clubs which treat me like a piece of crap just because I don't happen to have a vagina.

Whenever I hear that the best bet to get laid in a city/country is to hit on other tourists, I say fuck that place. This one is pretty self explanatory. If the locals are so stuck up that it's beneath them to mix with me, then fuck'em and I'll take my tourist $$ elsewhere.

[Brosemite]

(04-14-2014 04:40 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

Whenever I hear that the best bet to get laid in a city/country is to hit on other tourists, I say fuck that place. This one is pretty self explanatory. If the locals are so stuck up that it's beneath them to mix with me, then fuck'em and I'll take my tourist $$ elsewhere.

I feel that way about Barcelona despite all the varying tourists there. Then again, the actual vibe of the local gals don't get me going either.

[Tideride]

This.

Girls who are down to meet strangers is exactly
What's needed.

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