Quote: (05-11-2017 01:09 AM)Tail Gunner Wrote:
Quote: (05-11-2017 12:39 AM)king bast Wrote:
For a bunch of people who have witnessed just how much of what we are fed are lies, there sure is a lot of blind, unwavering support for the vaccine arm of big pharma. The vitriol directed towards anyone questioning them at all, makes the treatment Trump received look like high praise.
The harder an issue is pushed, and the more harshly dissent is dealt with, the stronger the smell of bullshit becomes. It might be time to focus that critical lens in the direction of vaccines.
Yes, the same brilliant critical thinkers who support big pharma are the the same ones who support big government, with similar disastrous outcomes. Always follow the money. Big Pharma could save more children by simply not jacking up the price of EpiPens by nearly 1,200%.
"EpiPens, which cost Mylan around $30 to produce, go for over $600 before coupons or rebates." "From 2007 to 2014, government spending on the medication rose 1,151% during a period when the number of EpiPen users increase only 164%, according to a Kaiser Family Foundation report."
http://time.com/money/4502891/epipen-pri...-politics/
By that logic Big Pharma would rationally prefer there was no such thing as a vaccine. They'd make much more money that way.
Let's assume for just a moment that the MMR vaccine does, in fact, cause autism. There's not one experiment, among the hundreds of attempts made to even find a link let alone a cause between them, but let's take that assumption for just a moment.
We know that not everyone who gets the MMR vaccine gets autism. Autism's treatment is usually a cocktail of behavioural therapies or alternatively a bit of Ritalin if the doctor is dumb. Either way, let's also assume that Big Pharma doesn't want the link to get round because they're happy to treat autism with drugs as it gets identified and they like to be able to continue charging the government for vaccines.
Per this page ...
https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html
... the CDC estimates the autism rate as roughly 1 in 68 kids (1 in 42 boys, 1 in 189 girls).
Prior to the measles vaccine, it is estimated that nearly
every child got measles before the age of 15. Similarly, per this CDC page:
https://www.cdc.gov/mumps/outbreaks.html -- before the MMR vaccine there were roughly 186,000 cases of mumps per year before the vaccine was created. In Rubella's case, 57,000 cases per year prior to the vaccine (
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbo...lla.html).
The MMR vaccine costs, for its full course, about $250.00 per person, per the CDC:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/programs/vf...rice-list/
The cost of a single case of measles? Per this article:
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/02/08...More-10000
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The public sector costs of treating each case each was $10,376, including the 1,745 person hours spent on “investigation and containment efforts,” according to the study. Direct medical costs totaled $1,347 and expenses related to quarantining 48 children who were too young to be vaccinated equaled $775 per patient.
A CDC study published in the journal Vaccine noted that there were 16 measles outbreaks in 2011 that resulted in 107 cases and cost public health departments between $2.7 million and $5.3 million to combat. "Beyond the impact on local and state public health departments, responses to measles outbreaks also affect hospitals, clinics, as well as non-health public departments such as schools, universities and occasionally local police departments enforcing quarantines," authors of the CDC study note.
Those figures don’t include costs incurred by the patients, which are considerable as well. Measles sufferers often require hospitalization. They can get complications like pneumonia and encephalitis (swelling of the brain) that can be deadly.
A Los Angeles hospital charged around $9,264 per patient during a resurgence of the infection in the 1990s, according to a 2004 report in the Journal of Infectious Diseases. That figure has no doubt risen in the intervening years.
Mumps: per CDC again:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/programs/vf...ds/#table2
... it's about $11,000-$14,000 per hospitalisation. (Which, prior to vaccines, was about 55.8 per 1,000 cases.) For rubella, it's as wide as $4,000 to $48,000 per hospitalisation. (Of which, during the last epidemic in 1963, there were a good 32,000 ... those being the cases where women spontaneously aborted, the child was stillborn, or the child was born deformed).
On these, Big Pharma gets a double or triple whammy: it not only provides medicine to fight the disease, it also provides the associated medications such as analgesics, anaesthetics, etc, etc.
And that's also before you get to the cost of the complications that accompany these conditions, e.g. encephalitis in some cases of mumps, which raise the medical costs and therefore Big Pharma's take.
Dealing only with measles, let's assume they only spend about $40 all up for ibuprofen or aspirin or other medicines while sick, and that's the limit of Big Pharma's profit on the illness.
73 million kids aged 0-15 in the US (per this site
https://www.childstats.gov/americaschild...s/pop1.asp) @ $40 per aspirin or other pain relief treatment taken =
$2.92 billion per year.
vs.
the 10 million doses of MMR vaccine administered per year @ $250 each =
$2.5 billion per year.
Bear in mind that comparison:
(a) is only comparing measles, not touching mumps or rubella's rates -- tens of thousands per year, and a lot more serious with higher hospitalisation rates than mumps or rubella; and
(b) does not include any costs where a person is hospitalised. For measles alone, before vaccines, roughly 48,000 people were hospitalised for measles per year, at a cost of $1,347 direct medical costs each.
Get the point? If we're going to "follow the money", it makes a shitload more financial sense for Big Pharma to
suppress vaccinations than administer them, because they make more money from a hospitalisation or treatment of a disease than they do on preventing it happening. This is particularly so for measles, where literally every kid was contracting it or gets it at some point between the ages of 1 and 15.
Remissas, discite, vivet.
God save us from people who mean well. -storm