[Snowplow]

After reading Emmanuel Goldstein's article "What freedom looks like in modern America" and one of McQueen and Dagonets podcasts (I forgot which one). Christian mentioned he bought a lotto ticket and said if he won he'd buy an island, but it got me thinking.

What if we all really decided to leave our home countries and had good sized island to make our own. Make a new country as we see fit. Like Emmanuel suggested a place like Patria. Hard workers, homemade food, no fatties, etc.

I know it really isn't probable, but what kinda laws or government do you see it being, how people would live, the economic or military impact it could have? How would you envision such a place?

[L M McCoy]

(03-12-2014 11:24 PM)Snowplow Wrote:  

After reading Emmanuel Goldstein's article "What freedom looks like in modern America" and one of McQueen and Dagonets podcasts (I forgot which one). Christian mentioned he bought a lotto ticket and said if he won he'd buy an island, but it got me thinking.

What if we all really decided to leave our home countries and had good sized island to make our own. Make a new country as we see fit. Like Emmanuel suggested a place like Patria. Hard workers, homemade food, no fatties, etc.

I know it really isn't probable, but what kinda laws or government do you see it being, how people would live, the economic or military impact it could have? How would you envision such a place?

I would make a Dystopia

[OMYG]

Rooshresident.
Will only allow home oriented and feminine women.

Tuthmosis: Vice President.
Will practice public shaming in the main court to any glimpse of feminism or white knight-ism.

Christian Mcqueen: Treasurer.
Will spend half of the treasury's money to replace running water with Skyy vodka.

AliB: Secretary of Defense.
Boom!

GManifesto: Ambassador.
Enough said.

El Mech: NSA Engineer
Will develop weapons of mass destruction.

TheDude3737: FDA equivalent of the nation.
The chef Ramsey of this utopia.

[Nemencine]

^^^

Fuck that noise!

I will be the dictator....

without appearing to dictate.....

I will simply take over the island, one way or the other, and make everybody my bitch...without making them feel like one....

Create a rotating cabinet offices to keep everybody fighting each other while i accumulate power.

Build mythologies about myself to deify me. Restrict access to my presence. Familiarity breeds disrespect. What is common is taken for granted.

Hold fake elections, to give a resemblance of democracy.

Create secret societies to give people a false sense of importance.

Appoint a court jester to give people a way to blow off steam.

_____________

Before you frown on any of this... just know this: The fact of the matter is, if i dont do it...somebody else will... so, it just makes sense to simply take power for myself. Why? because there are characters on RVF that you have no idea what they are capable of until you set foot on that island... what devious talent and natural gifts they possess...these i will spend my time finding and cultivating for the coming power struggle... to me, the popular members(roosh, tuthmosis, gmanifesto, etc) are visible targets... your best option is to play them against each other....

There will always be an alpha. That is a given. Why not you?

Also, i dont believe in utopias... given enough time everything tends toward decay.... that RVF island will decay... it is only human, all-too-human.

regards,

Nemencine

[OMYG]

(03-13-2014 12:24 AM)Nemencine Wrote:  

Before you frown on any of this... just know this: The fact of the matter is, if i dont do it...somebody else will... so, it just makes sense to simply take power for myself. Why? because there are characters on RVF that you have no idea what they are capable of until you set foot on that island... what devious talent and natural gifts they possess...these i will spend my time finding and cultivating for the coming power struggle... to me, the popular members(roosh, tuthmosis, gmanifesto, etc) are visible targets... your best option is to play them against each other....

There will always be an alpha. That is a given. Why not you?

Also, i dont believe in utopias... given enough time everything tends toward decay.... that RVF island will decay... it is only human, all-too-human.

regards,

Nemencine

Obviously, your right on.

I was having fun with the ideas and common stereotypes these members receive, but I too agree with you. Every great empire has it's fall.

I see more complications than achievements if this country were to exist.

[big poppa]

My first requirement is a monetary system that doesn't transfer wealth of the many to wealth of the few.. I think we'd all agree on that.

A 2:1 woman to man ratio, and no women below a 7 or above 35 years old. (I only say that because a small percentage of women can be fine into their 30s). On their 35th birthday they are tied up and left on the door step of our nearest neighboring country.

No weapons except 1 giant nuke that we can use as a deterrent for invaders. I can see shit getting out of hand if we all have guns

Male tourists are not eligible for visas unless he brings 2, 8+ girls with him

[Slim Shady]

In honor of the object we most love, most hate, and most love to hate - we shall name our country VAGISTAN.

Our Independence day will be on February 15th - post Vagintines. Memorial day is the 14th per Dagonet.

[OMYG]

^^^^
I didn't know what name to expect, that was epic
Vagistan

[2Wycked]

Rooshland, you say?

We have had these discussions before and Roosh said he does not want to be a President. Maybe he can be a Karl Rove type of character.

Prez: Giovonny

VP: Tuthmosis. He seems to thrive in the 2nd-in-command role. Hopefully this doesn't apply to his love life

Now, we need a red-pill cabinet:

Sec. of Beauty Standards (10's): Excelsior

Sec.'s of Not Getting Fucked In Court By A Female: slubu, Merenguero and lurker

Sec. of Wisdom: Quintus Curtius

Sec.'s of Online Dating: soup and Sourcecode

Sec. of Cooking: thedude3737

Sec. of Knocking Sense Into People: MikeCF

Sec. of Zebra Game: POHammer

Sec. of Money: WestCoast

Sec. of Lifting: Hades

Sec. of Black-out Game: Aliblahba

[soup]

Anybody who is trying to own USA has to talk to me first.

[It_is_my_time]

Sadly this is what the USA once was. Our forefathers escaped from the clutches of the European monarchies and created a country where the average man could have a chance to better his life.

Then came Woodrow Wilson and his banker act of 1913 and giving women the right to vote, and it was all over after that.

There are less and less places where an average man can go and not be treated like a 2nd class citizen or a slave.

If we ever can buy our own island, I would save up all my wealth to buy a spot there to escape this nonsense.

[spalex]

* You have to be an 8 or above to reproduce.
* No religion.
* National service is mandatory.
* You have to have a degree in political science before you are allowed to vote. If I haven't decided to do away with modern politics.
* Tax breaks for couple that that have more girls than boys.
* 80% of education must go towards a science. Also women will be trained on how to please men (good at sucking dick, cooking etc etc)
* Stupidity will be punishable.
* Immigration will be tough.


.... Basically what all countries should be like.

[Scuba_Instructor]

Funnily enough, I was pondering this earlier in the week.

There's a lot of knowledge amongst the members of this forum. And considerable skill-sets. Pool that together and you've got a community that's thrived with far less.

Something akin to The Beach - but with a happier ending (pun intended).

[Patriarch]

Welcome to Rapture.

[runninutebball]

Interesting question. The best way to do this is to target a small country, probably Island nation, and them start immigrating there in large numbers until you become the majority. You'd probably need 100,000 minimum to make this happen.

The other way, the buy an island scenario, is fun to think about but fat fetched. Just because you own it doesn't mean you can legally secede from whatever nation currently owns it. But assuming by some manner you could, you need to find a picturesque location that is easily accessible by the wealthy in neighboring countries. You then set the country up to be one of the banking secrecy countries like the Caymans, Switzerland, Cyprus, etc. You will need strong rule of law to be attractive as an offshore tax shelter. As for currency, if you had a vibrant offshore financial services sector and developed a tourism sector you could easily have stable currency by pegging your currency to a regional neighbor whose currency is stable. Alternatively, you can just use that neighbors currency as the medium of exchange in your markets.

If you have really deep pockets for this new nation, you can build a ring around the earth and call it something line Elysium.

[Tuthmosis]

(03-13-2014 02:47 AM)2Wycked Wrote:  

VP: Tuthmosis. He seems to thrive in the 2nd-in-command role.

I'm more than satisfied with being the Scottie Pippen or Destro of our nation. In fact, here's some actual footage of Roosh making fun of me for losing my temper when one of my national schemes didn't go according to plan. I finally decide to act on my New York hating at the end.

Note my hot Eastern European assistant.

[AT225]

(03-13-2014 04:28 AM)spalex Wrote:  

* You have to have a degree in political science before you are allowed to vote. If I haven't decided to do away with modern politics.

Graduating with this degree was a good idea after all.

Quote:

* Immigration will be tough.

Might I add this as part of the immigration process?

http://www.rooshv.com/player-quiz/