Santiago de Chile Data Sheet
I am new to the forum and want to contribute some info and experiences of Santiago. I´m not a native Chilean, but am fluent in Spanish and have been living here for a few years now, so I know the city quite well.
General Overview
Santiago metro area has around 7 million inhabitants. Located 100 kms from the coast (Viña del Mar is a pretty nice beach town in summer, might be worth another Data Sheet on its own) and near the Andes mountains (ski resorts El Colorado and Farellones are within an hour of down town Santiago). Social differences are huge. The best communes are in the eastern part of the city: Las Condes, Providencia, Lo Barnechea and Vitacura. Santiago Centro, Ñuñoa and La Reina are in between and the rest has a different feel to it in general. Overall, Santiago is very safe for Latin American standards, the main thing to worry about are pickpockets.
Santiago has a sunny Mediterranean climate, but be aware that it gets chilly at night and in general heating and insulation of the houses is bad. I have business relations over from Europe, North America and Latin America on a regular basis and they always are surprised how developed and pleasant the city is. Of course I always take them to the nice spots and show them the best Santiago has to offer, but still. For sure the best time to visit is September (Fiestas Patrias) –to April. Winter is quite harsh actually.
Girls
Chileans are predominately mestizos with mostly European ancestry. I´ve read that the average Chilean person has around 70% European ancestry and 30% indigenous. Higher social class girls are more European in general (mainly Spanish with some Italian, German and Arab influences). It gives an idea what you can expect here. Upper class girls are in general better looking. If you like Latinas and haven´t been to southern Brazil yet, you might like the Chilean girls. In summertime the girls show quite some skin I was happily surprised when I saw hot chicks at the swimming pool and beach in g-strings.
Upper class girls (cuicas) are the hottest, but also have a bit more attitude. They are brought up with nannies and in a very protected and rich environment, so they can be a bit spoiled. But it proved for me to work very good to tease them with their cuica background, they like that if you do it the right way. If you don´t speak Spanish, cuicas will be your main target, some of them speak perfect English.
Chilean culture is a bit conservative, but this is changing rapidly, the young generation is quite liberal. Also, as you guys of course know, the most conservative girls can be extremely horny and up for whatever, you just need to make them feel comfortable and release their inner slut.
In comparison to Europe, i am definitely not negative about the girls in Chile, but there are very little 9s and 10s, in Europe that percentage is higher.
Foreigners are well receipted in general (white guys, not so much Peruvians or Colombians for instance) and I´ve also seen black guys (western black guys, Colombians and Dominicans not so much) do well with decent looking chilenas.
Day game
This is something I really want to improve for myself. Santiago has a lot of great spots for this. Also the culture is quite open to cold approaches. Most Chilean guys do shout out to girls (´mijita rica´), but I have never seen a Chilean dude do a proper day time approach scoring a number the least. I really think this has great potential in Santiago.
Avenida Apoquindo
The heart of the business district in Las Condes. During weekdays the streets are full with hot chicks. Unfortunately my office is not in Las Condes, but every time I go there I am more tempted to move there just for this reason. Also the streets around there of course are excellent day game spots, especially in summer (Isidora Goyenechea, Presidente Riesco etc.).
Parque Arauco
Great spot as there is a big mall with a nice park next to it. This is my preferred spot in the weekends for day game.
Parque Metropolitano
Especially the top of Cerro San Cristobal around the Maria statue, the Japanese garden and the 2 beautiful swimming pools (only in summer) are good spots.
There are many other good spots, mainly malls and parks for day game like Parque Forestal, Mall Alto Las Condes, Barrio Brasil, Parque Bustamante, Cerro Santa Lucia, Mall Portal La Dehesa, Parque San Borja, streets of Providencia etc. Remember always the more to the east you go, the better the quality gets.
Night game
I am personally very much into rolling solo, since I lack a good wingman. There are 3 areas that I know very well:
Barrio Brasil
This is near to my apartment so it´s my ideal spot for dates, logistics wise. It´s in Santiago Centro and it’s not the best looking area but I dig the vibe it has to it. Crowd is not exactly cuico (upper class), but more alternative, professionals having a drink after work, gothic kids etc. It´s mainly bars not clubs. For me bars called Voodoo and Baires are my favorite as they are quite spacious (some privacy) and have good couches to chill at. There is also a literary café on Plaza Brasil.
Barrio Bellavista
This is the obvious and best known spot for night life. It does have the highest concentration of bars and clubs. I recommend the area east of Pio Nono street with special notice of Galpon 9 (best ratios I have experienced in Santiago, don´t go too late, get there just before 12 o’clock). It´s closed in the summer as the owners move to the beach (Reñaca) and open a club there. For night game I also recommend Bar Constitución (get´s going fairly late, around 1, just as the rest of Santiago´s night life) and Chocolate. For dates I found Rocco´s at Patio Bellavista to be nice with spacious couches and a nice balcony with view on Cerro San Cristobal.
Vitacura
More upscale part of town, but the night life attracts a more mature crowd was my experience. Club Eve was not really my cup of tea, but maybe it was just the wrong night. Las Urracas was much better. The fame it has being a milf bar is totally true. I got eye fucked a lot by cougars, some of which could actually make my dick hard. But there was no need to hit on the cougars as the first night I went there one of my fuck buddies was dying for my dick and I was more than happy to give it to her (she is a solid 8 in my book and I had only hit it once before that night), so I went off to her place. The second night I went there (solo) there were younger girls too and the place was packed. I approached a few chicks, one of which was an insanely hot Mexican chick, but due to circumstances (cock blocking and me not being aggressive enough), it went nowhere. The fourth approach was successful and I spent the rest of the night trying to get this girl home with me. She was a 6,5 with a good body. I think I was close, but in the end she had to bring her friends home and I probably wasn´t persistent enough. Currently running text game on her and she lives in my commune, so that is something with potential. This is for sure a venue to keep in mind, only logistics are crap for me (a 20 min taxi drive to my place).
After office
I heard about this after office place (After Office Alto San Francisco) which is said to be a very good game venue, but I don´t know anything about it, just that it starts early on Wednesday from 19.00 to 01.00 AM. Very curious about that and also about Miércoles Po (some expat party on Wednesday as well). If you guys have any info on these two, let me know! Might be they are goldmines.
Conclusions and game advice
To me Santiago is very pleasant as the girls are (very) receptive and the fact that I am young, independent, have my shit together, am tall, am fluent in Spanish, understand the culture and the exotic factor makes life very good for me here. The fact that I experience very little rejection (don´t want to brag here), means probably that I am not even near my potential. My plan is to focus much more on day game as with online and night game I am way too often unpleasantly surprised when I see them in daylight and sober. Since I am a beginner in game and still feel some approach anxiety, this needs some work.
My experience is that gaming chilenas and other Latinas (a lot of colombianas and argentinas here too), isn´t much different from gaming other girls. However I think asshole game as how it works in the West doesn´t work that well here. I also feel you can be much more masculine and it´s not weird at all to expect the girl to cook and clean if she stays at your place (culture is not as feminist as western culture). My game predominantly consists of making the girl feel comfortable, make my intentions clear, a lot of teasing and making her laugh with my slightly cocky, confident way of gaming her.
I am new to the forum and want to contribute some info and experiences of Santiago. I´m not a native Chilean, but am fluent in Spanish and have been living here for a few years now, so I know the city quite well.
General Overview
Santiago metro area has around 7 million inhabitants. Located 100 kms from the coast (Viña del Mar is a pretty nice beach town in summer, might be worth another Data Sheet on its own) and near the Andes mountains (ski resorts El Colorado and Farellones are within an hour of down town Santiago). Social differences are huge. The best communes are in the eastern part of the city: Las Condes, Providencia, Lo Barnechea and Vitacura. Santiago Centro, Ñuñoa and La Reina are in between and the rest has a different feel to it in general. Overall, Santiago is very safe for Latin American standards, the main thing to worry about are pickpockets.
Santiago has a sunny Mediterranean climate, but be aware that it gets chilly at night and in general heating and insulation of the houses is bad. I have business relations over from Europe, North America and Latin America on a regular basis and they always are surprised how developed and pleasant the city is. Of course I always take them to the nice spots and show them the best Santiago has to offer, but still. For sure the best time to visit is September (Fiestas Patrias) –to April. Winter is quite harsh actually.
Girls
Chileans are predominately mestizos with mostly European ancestry. I´ve read that the average Chilean person has around 70% European ancestry and 30% indigenous. Higher social class girls are more European in general (mainly Spanish with some Italian, German and Arab influences). It gives an idea what you can expect here. Upper class girls are in general better looking. If you like Latinas and haven´t been to southern Brazil yet, you might like the Chilean girls. In summertime the girls show quite some skin I was happily surprised when I saw hot chicks at the swimming pool and beach in g-strings.
Upper class girls (cuicas) are the hottest, but also have a bit more attitude. They are brought up with nannies and in a very protected and rich environment, so they can be a bit spoiled. But it proved for me to work very good to tease them with their cuica background, they like that if you do it the right way. If you don´t speak Spanish, cuicas will be your main target, some of them speak perfect English.
Chilean culture is a bit conservative, but this is changing rapidly, the young generation is quite liberal. Also, as you guys of course know, the most conservative girls can be extremely horny and up for whatever, you just need to make them feel comfortable and release their inner slut.
In comparison to Europe, i am definitely not negative about the girls in Chile, but there are very little 9s and 10s, in Europe that percentage is higher.
Foreigners are well receipted in general (white guys, not so much Peruvians or Colombians for instance) and I´ve also seen black guys (western black guys, Colombians and Dominicans not so much) do well with decent looking chilenas.
Day game
This is something I really want to improve for myself. Santiago has a lot of great spots for this. Also the culture is quite open to cold approaches. Most Chilean guys do shout out to girls (´mijita rica´), but I have never seen a Chilean dude do a proper day time approach scoring a number the least. I really think this has great potential in Santiago.
Avenida Apoquindo
The heart of the business district in Las Condes. During weekdays the streets are full with hot chicks. Unfortunately my office is not in Las Condes, but every time I go there I am more tempted to move there just for this reason. Also the streets around there of course are excellent day game spots, especially in summer (Isidora Goyenechea, Presidente Riesco etc.).
Parque Arauco
Great spot as there is a big mall with a nice park next to it. This is my preferred spot in the weekends for day game.
Parque Metropolitano
Especially the top of Cerro San Cristobal around the Maria statue, the Japanese garden and the 2 beautiful swimming pools (only in summer) are good spots.
There are many other good spots, mainly malls and parks for day game like Parque Forestal, Mall Alto Las Condes, Barrio Brasil, Parque Bustamante, Cerro Santa Lucia, Mall Portal La Dehesa, Parque San Borja, streets of Providencia etc. Remember always the more to the east you go, the better the quality gets.
Night game
I am personally very much into rolling solo, since I lack a good wingman. There are 3 areas that I know very well:
Barrio Brasil
This is near to my apartment so it´s my ideal spot for dates, logistics wise. It´s in Santiago Centro and it’s not the best looking area but I dig the vibe it has to it. Crowd is not exactly cuico (upper class), but more alternative, professionals having a drink after work, gothic kids etc. It´s mainly bars not clubs. For me bars called Voodoo and Baires are my favorite as they are quite spacious (some privacy) and have good couches to chill at. There is also a literary café on Plaza Brasil.
Barrio Bellavista
This is the obvious and best known spot for night life. It does have the highest concentration of bars and clubs. I recommend the area east of Pio Nono street with special notice of Galpon 9 (best ratios I have experienced in Santiago, don´t go too late, get there just before 12 o’clock). It´s closed in the summer as the owners move to the beach (Reñaca) and open a club there. For night game I also recommend Bar Constitución (get´s going fairly late, around 1, just as the rest of Santiago´s night life) and Chocolate. For dates I found Rocco´s at Patio Bellavista to be nice with spacious couches and a nice balcony with view on Cerro San Cristobal.
Vitacura
More upscale part of town, but the night life attracts a more mature crowd was my experience. Club Eve was not really my cup of tea, but maybe it was just the wrong night. Las Urracas was much better. The fame it has being a milf bar is totally true. I got eye fucked a lot by cougars, some of which could actually make my dick hard. But there was no need to hit on the cougars as the first night I went there one of my fuck buddies was dying for my dick and I was more than happy to give it to her (she is a solid 8 in my book and I had only hit it once before that night), so I went off to her place. The second night I went there (solo) there were younger girls too and the place was packed. I approached a few chicks, one of which was an insanely hot Mexican chick, but due to circumstances (cock blocking and me not being aggressive enough), it went nowhere. The fourth approach was successful and I spent the rest of the night trying to get this girl home with me. She was a 6,5 with a good body. I think I was close, but in the end she had to bring her friends home and I probably wasn´t persistent enough. Currently running text game on her and she lives in my commune, so that is something with potential. This is for sure a venue to keep in mind, only logistics are crap for me (a 20 min taxi drive to my place).
After office
I heard about this after office place (After Office Alto San Francisco) which is said to be a very good game venue, but I don´t know anything about it, just that it starts early on Wednesday from 19.00 to 01.00 AM. Very curious about that and also about Miércoles Po (some expat party on Wednesday as well). If you guys have any info on these two, let me know! Might be they are goldmines.
Conclusions and game advice
To me Santiago is very pleasant as the girls are (very) receptive and the fact that I am young, independent, have my shit together, am tall, am fluent in Spanish, understand the culture and the exotic factor makes life very good for me here. The fact that I experience very little rejection (don´t want to brag here), means probably that I am not even near my potential. My plan is to focus much more on day game as with online and night game I am way too often unpleasantly surprised when I see them in daylight and sober. Since I am a beginner in game and still feel some approach anxiety, this needs some work.
My experience is that gaming chilenas and other Latinas (a lot of colombianas and argentinas here too), isn´t much different from gaming other girls. However I think asshole game as how it works in the West doesn´t work that well here. I also feel you can be much more masculine and it´s not weird at all to expect the girl to cook and clean if she stays at your place (culture is not as feminist as western culture). My game predominantly consists of making the girl feel comfortable, make my intentions clear, a lot of teasing and making her laugh with my slightly cocky, confident way of gaming her.
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