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What Is It With Butch Lesbian Trolls Dating Hot Girls?
#51

What Is It With Butch Lesbian Trolls Dating Hot Girls?

Hyenas






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In my time spent in the manosphere I’ve been asked on more than one occasion what I thought about the concept of the Alpha Female. For a time I was resistant to the idea, not because I didn’t allow for the possibility that certain women were predisposed to being Type A personalities and given to the same desire for power and control that men predominantly have, but rather due to the way that Alpha Female came to develop that personality.

As the social impulse to feminize men took root, so too was the counterbalance of masculinizing women instituted. As I’ve stated in earlier post, the concept of power, real power, isn’t invested in controlling the action of others, but in how much control we can exercise in the course of, and over our own, live’s. Freud’s concept of penis envy not withstanding, up until the time of the sexual revolution it’s been men who’ve seemingly had the most control over the courses their lives will take. This of course is a classic fiction for the majority of men, but this is the perception even the most unassuming women have had with men – even the poorest of men have more power to decide what direction their lives will take than women.

In a natural state, women’s biological, emotional, provisioning and protection needs have always been sustained by men. Women evolved to be the more necessitous sex. This isn’t to say women were patently helpless, didn’t provide nurturing or couldn’t adapt to new environmental challenges, but it is to say their individual survivability, if not entirely dependent upon men, was greatly enhanced by cooperating sexually and socially with men. Due to this male-centric necessity women’s predisposition for a want of a survival-level security evolved – and so too did the subliminal anxiety to ensure themselves against survival insecurity.

As social progress advanced (and occasionally retreated) so too did the influence of the Feminine Imperative over men. I would argue that the Feminine Imperative, as a socio-sexual construct, was evolved from a desire not so much to control men, but as a means to relieve the anxiety of women’s earliest insecurities. This struggle for power necessitated the development of the Feminine Imperative, but only in the respect that it afforded women real power – a greater control over the course that their own lives would take.

Ensuring an enduring dominance of genetic material being passed on with the best male stock (i.e. Hypergamy) was of equal importance to ensuring the survivability of her offspring. This is nothing new to the manosphere, it’s simply the Alpha Fucks / Beta Bucks dynamic, but reduced to its evolutionary beginnings. As women were (and still are) afforded greater control over their own lives (true power) the application of this power is spent in easing women’s dependency upon men. A woman’s desire for power is rooted in easing the anxieties and insecurities her feral and tribal ancestors hard-coded into her contemporary psyche.

For every female CEO exercising her influence over today’s (male created) corporations, for every book about the End of Men, for every speech about Feminist Triumphalism, it’s important for men to understand that all of these overt declarations of power stem from women’s primal insecurity about their own survivability without the aid of attracting and sustaining an enduring relationship with a man.


Alpha Females

I drew this up to put into context the misnomer that is the Alpha Female. I find it ironic, but not unexpected, that a fem-centric society will adamantly resist the idea of Men being Alpha, yet enthusiastically embrace labeling strong independent women® as Alpha Females. Feminists and Mangina intellectuals alike will spend endless hours elaborating over how human males can’t possibly be compared with Alpha lions or wolves in the wilderness, and that it’s basement dwelling keyboard theorists who promote the idea; yet will giddily endorse women like Sheryl Sandberg as being Alpha Females.

At the risk of reopening the “what is Alpha?” can of worms, women cannot be Alpha in the same sense that Men are considered Alpha. The operative point being that Alpha in the male sense is a derivative of the male biology. By virtue of testosterone, male animals have (by order of degree) an inborn disposition towards an Alpha behavior set. On the most rudimentary scale, Alpha behaviors and physical traits are defined by their utility to that male and the breeding motivations they inspire in females.

Before I get run up the flagpole for asserting that testosterone is a key element for determining an Alpha status, allow me to direct your attention to today’s linked video. There is a species of mammal wherein the female of the species possesses more testosterone than the male, and consequently the role of sexual agressor and pack leading Alpha status is conferred to her.

They’re called Hyenas.

Watch the video (it’s short) and contrast the female hyena’s behaviors and,..physical characteristics with the fem-centric popularized notion of an Alpha Female.

To be sure, there are Alpha traits and behavioral learnings most Beta men can develop and internalize. I’m still a firm believer that to a greater degree, Alpha status for men can become who a Man is. In fact behavioral Alpha dominance is (was) passed on from one dominant male to his offspring, or close relation. So it does stand to reason that women too can learn these dominant behavior sets. The rapid masculinization of contemporary women is proof of this, and women may also internalize this dominance schema to become who they are; but does this make them Alpha?

Obviously women are not hyenas, but the physical dimorphism of hyena sexuality is an interesting illustration for the masculinization of females in humans. Primarily it changes the social dynamic of the group. Women can do what our female hyena does in this video through anabolic steroid use and a lot of heavy lifting, and with similar physical results, but does this alter a female security desire evolved for thousands of years? That answer might be yes, but for a woman to be Alpha she must physically and mentally transform into as close an approximation of a man as societal conditioning and physical mutation will allow.

This being the case, is she really female anymore?
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#52

What Is It With Butch Lesbian Trolls Dating Hot Girls?

I have noticed this quite a bit in Thailand. I have seen sexy ass girls with bulldyke Thais. I saw it once and assumed it was just a friend or something. Then I started seeing it more and more. Fucking mind boggling. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't fucking pissed when I see it.

I looked into it and it appears that it's fashionable for hot Thai girls to date a "Tom" aka Thai bulldyke. I even hesitate to say bulldyke because further websites indicate that these "Toms" are not always lesbians and eventually get married to men and have kids. The hot Thai girls are not even considered lesbians. The American equvilant could be a girl who has had sex with girls and may even have relationships with girls but wouldn't consider herself a lesbian and sometimes, not even bisexual.

Take away the moral pretense that we have in the US and there really is no social stigma against having a "Tom" as a girl/boy friend. I have a few theories:

1. She is an Alpha widow who has become disillusioned with men and sees the "Tom" as a safe masculine surrogate.

2. Like I said, it's fashionable. Asians are very herdlike and suckers for trends.

3. She hasn't found any men who qualify for her standards (realistic or otherwise) and is using a "Tom" as a stand-in until her Alpha comes along.

4. She's actually a full-fledged doughnut-bumper and is only playing the feminine role to placate her family and/or to get the highest SMV "Tom".

I'm no expert on this. It's only been an observation since I've been in Thailand. All of my knowledge on this phenomenon is based on red-pill knowledge derived from the manosphere and other blogs discussing this topic.

In addition, I have also noticed high SMV girls in the US with some ugly ass dykes. I think part of it is that the high SMV girls KNOW that it pisses guys off and they get off on it.

The Maximally Pathetic Schema: Xs who labor to convince Ys that “I’m not one of those despicable Zs!,” when in fact it is obvious to the meanest intelligence that the Ys see no difference between Xs and Zs, don’t care anyway, and would love to throw both Xs and Zs into a gulag.

- Adrian Vermeule
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#53

What Is It With Butch Lesbian Trolls Dating Hot Girls?

Ha what a coincidence, I thought of this thread last night after encountering a lesbian couple. But this time, the butch one wasn't a troll or even that mannish, just marred by super short hair.

They were both pretty affectionate in a way that seemed genuine - whereas with the real dime-troll couples, the troll is aggressive and possessive, the dime passive and timid.
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#54

What Is It With Butch Lesbian Trolls Dating Hot Girls?

Quote: (02-22-2015 08:44 AM)mrbiggs Wrote:  

I have noticed this quite a bit in Thailand. I have seen sexy ass girls with bulldyke Thais. I saw it once and assumed it was just a friend or something. Then I started seeing it more and more. Fucking mind boggling. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't fucking pissed when I see it.

I looked into it and it appears that it's fashionable for hot Thai girls to date a "Tom" aka Thai bulldyke. I even hesitate to say bulldyke because further websites indicate that these "Toms" are not always lesbians and eventually get married to men and have kids. The hot Thai girls are not even considered lesbians. The American equvilant could be a girl who has had sex with girls and may even have relationships with girls but wouldn't consider herself a lesbian and sometimes, not even bisexual.

Take away the moral pretense that we have in the US and there really is no social stigma against having a "Tom" as a girl/boy friend. I have a few theories:

1. She is an Alpha widow who has become disillusioned with men and sees the "Tom" as a safe masculine surrogate.

2. Like I said, it's fashionable. Asians are very herdlike and suckers for trends.

3. She hasn't found any men who qualify for her standards (realistic or otherwise) and is using a "Tom" as a stand-in until her Alpha comes along.

4. She's actually a full-fledged doughnut-bumper and is only playing the feminine role to placate her family and/or to get the highest SMV "Tom".

I'm no expert on this. It's only been an observation since I've been in Thailand. All of my knowledge on this phenomenon is based on red-pill knowledge derived from the manosphere and other blogs discussing this topic.

In addition, I have also noticed high SMV girls in the US with some ugly ass dykes. I think part of it is that the high SMV girls KNOW that it pisses guys off and they get off on it.

Toms get better looking girls than the majority of foreigners. Crazy.

Your reasons for the phenomenon seem pretty solid. Most cases I've known, the girl has been hurt and the Tom was there to manipulate her into the relationship.

A lot of skeletons in the closet for a lot of Thai girls. I wouldn't date one that's been with a Tom if I knew about it - it's just too fucked up.
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#55

What Is It With Butch Lesbian Trolls Dating Hot Girls?

Lesbians are pure evil. They are motivated by a single emotion: hatred of society, and the desire to slowly, carefully subvert every other happy or healthy person.

This might sound simplistic, but truthfully after 20 some-odd years of observing them, that's my conclusion.

Lesbians hate everything about heterosexuality, they hate everything about men. They are lesbians because they couldn't compete in the real world, and their goal is to destroy that real world in return.

Contrast this to gay men, who are often fairly cool. Gay men are still men, which means, they still feel a sense of male honor -- the obligation to support society. Lesbians have no such sense of honor.

Avoid at all costs. Don't try to think or debate about it. Just avoid them.
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#56

What Is It With Butch Lesbian Trolls Dating Hot Girls?

"Lesbians hate everything about heterosexuality, they hate everything about men. They are lesbians because they couldn't compete in the real world"

This hasn't been my experience, though I've never had a sustained social relationship with a lesbian. Perhaps the more benign lesbians were not outwardly lesbian, so you assumed they were straight.
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#57

What Is It With Butch Lesbian Trolls Dating Hot Girls?

Quote: (02-22-2015 04:18 PM)Basil Ransom Wrote:  

"Lesbians hate everything about heterosexuality, they hate everything about men. They are lesbians because they couldn't compete in the real world"

This hasn't been my experience, though I've never had a sustained social relationship with a lesbian. Perhaps the more benign lesbians were not outwardly lesbian, so you assumed they were straight.

Mmm....it's a complex subject.

I've had the experience of a lot of very butch lesbians in the workplace. They were usually very friendly and matter-of-fact on the outside, were very good at fooling the higher up executives. But when you look at their actual conduct behind closed doors...arrgh.
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#58

What Is It With Butch Lesbian Trolls Dating Hot Girls?

I've seen a lot of Filipina butch/ cute femme couples in Dubai. Not surprising since girls working there end up living four or more to a room and opportunities and logistics for male/female relationships are tough.

There are lots of lesbian criminal defense lawyers. I liked them; they just want to be one of the guys.
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#59

What Is It With Butch Lesbian Trolls Dating Hot Girls?

I let my very pretty girlfriend fuck the biker-dyke in the condo across from me. The bull works on my motorcycle and then my girl gets dressed up in her sexy lingerie and heels and lets this nasty, butch gal eat her out. We both love it.
My girlfriend used to fuck girls in her sorority all the time, so no big deal to her. She says the pretty ones can be awful in bed (50/50), but the bulls always get her off.
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#60

What Is It With Butch Lesbian Trolls Dating Hot Girls?

What ^?
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#61

What Is It With Butch Lesbian Trolls Dating Hot Girls?

Quote: (03-25-2015 12:10 PM)Deckard5224 Wrote:  

I let my very pretty girlfriend fuck the biker-dyke in the condo across from me. The bull works on my motorcycle and then my girl gets dressed up in her sexy lingerie and heels and lets this nasty, butch gal eat her out. We both love it.
My girlfriend used to fuck girls in her sorority all the time, so no big deal to her. She says the pretty ones can be awful in bed (50/50), but the bulls always get her off.

Is letting a dyke have your main girl beta?

Cool story bro. Better luck next month.

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...and nothing quite surprises me anymore. If I looked out my showroom window and saw a fully-nude woman force-fucking an alligator with a strap-on while snorting xanex on the roof of her rental car with her three children locked inside with the windows rolled up, I wouldn't be entirely amazed.
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#62

What Is It With Butch Lesbian Trolls Dating Hot Girls?

I used to work with a butch medic that was more redpill than the vast majority of guys. She was a complete pussy pirate and we all knew to keep our girls away from her. She has been known to run off with married women, and even had a few chicks stalking her. Her game was tight, I wish mine was half as good.

"The point is, marriage is stupid. Every year there are a million hot, new 22-year olds going into bars, and call me glass-half-full, but I think they're getting dumber." -Barney Stinson
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#63

What Is It With Butch Lesbian Trolls Dating Hot Girls?

Goldin boy.
Not everyone is insecure about their women.
Ain't no one trying to wife these girls.. Why care so much.

Hell.. It damn near sounds like he's trading his girl for motorcycle work

I am the cock carousel
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#64

What Is It With Butch Lesbian Trolls Dating Hot Girls?

Quote: (03-26-2015 01:57 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

Goldin boy.
Not everyone is insecure about their women.
Ain't no one trying to wife these girls.. Why care so much.

Hell.. It damn near sounds like he's trading his girl for motorcycle work

If he was trading his girl to a man, instead of a lesbian, for motorcycle work..then it would be beta and I doubt you would say the same thing.

At the end of the day, lesbians are just another type of man, with the societal advantage and ability to get under a woman's defences she normally puts up for men.

a lesbian is the one type of man that can rape a woman and get away with it...such a type of man is a legit threat and must never be underestimated.
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#65

What Is It With Butch Lesbian Trolls Dating Hot Girls?

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Hell.. It damn near sounds like he's trading his girl for motorcycle work


Really? To me it sounds like he was a troll.

Quote: (08-18-2016 12:05 PM)dicknixon72 Wrote:  
...and nothing quite surprises me anymore. If I looked out my showroom window and saw a fully-nude woman force-fucking an alligator with a strap-on while snorting xanex on the roof of her rental car with her three children locked inside with the windows rolled up, I wouldn't be entirely amazed.
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#66

What Is It With Butch Lesbian Trolls Dating Hot Girls?

If you got 20 minutes, lesbian pretends to be man for some time.


When it goes into the part dating as a man she revealed to several straight women she was really a woman, they got angry at first but they still wanted to continue a relationship sexually.





Women's sexuality is fluid.
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