[El_gato]

Met an Asian girl 10 yrs younger on lava. We chatted a bit and eventually went out on a few dates - nice dinner , drinks, brunch. On the 3rd date I got her back to mine for tea. She mentioned that this was our third date - an important date - implying that this was getting more involved than just dating. I put the shuffle on her and we had a decent 7/10 make out session- No sex . She had plans later that evening so we couldn't spend the rest of the day together.
Question: I sense the momentum is fading - I also see things going more blue pill. How do u revive this ? Suggestions for next "date"?

[pitt]

Invite her to your crib, give her some alcohol and go for sex. She may refuse it at first, get sexual, tell her how you will lick her pussy so good, start kissing her neck, take your dick out and try to close again. If this doesn't work, nothing else will work, next her.

[El_gato]

I get it Pitt. Go for the close or next her.
Thanks for the wake up call.
Will consult with you before my DR trip in dec

[WestIndianArchie]

You haven't said a thing about your attempts to escalate the dates sexually.

Sounds like you fucked up on Dates 1 and 2.

Date 3, she made plans, knowing that she was gonna hang with you, blatant disrespect. (unless you cajoled her into it, knowing she had a release valve)

And when she mentioned date 3 and you shuffled, you didn't do what players do, LIE.

If you manage to get her out for a date 4, do the formula
bar 1
bar 2
bounce to your spot

All the while you're escalating

WIA

[El_gato]

Good advice _ going back to mine on date 3 was a surpruse for her and she laid down the marker of "having plans later that night". I felt out make out session wasn't too hot. Will get her out for drinks and more drinks next time and close the deal and lie about my blue pill acceptance if necessary

[heavy]

When in doubt, whip it out

[Sturmgeist]

If there is nothing sexual by the third date, there sure as hell no fourth.

OP is getting played.

[PrimeTime32]

4th Date? Sorry to break it to you but if you haven't had sex with her within the first 3 dates then there's no sexual chemistry. Hit the eject button immediately.

[El_gato]

That is generally my rule - 3 dates max. Going to make an exception here because the phone calls and kino when I am with her are good. Full court press on Friday - stay tuned for the results...

[MrXY]

"Nice dinner" and brunch on the first three dates and before you've fucked her?

[El_gato]

Date 4 : get her to mine for some appitizers and glass of wine. She had her arms crossed and pretty tame but looking hot, She floated that we should drive to the restaurant in her car so she could then drive home from the venue.
I quickly changed the plan that we should eat close by - downgrading the quality of the venue significantly. Had inexpensive dinner and came back to mine - good quality make out session but she wasn't up for the bang.

My apologies to the roosh manosphere for being so blue pill - not sure what got in to me- won't happen again.

[ball dont lie]

How much total time and money have you put into this girl so far? I would not call. If she calls, tell her to come over. Other than that, next girl up.

[El_gato]

Spent 2 Friday nights and 2 Saturday mornings.. Dropped $250. To her credit she picked up one of the brunches.
You are right - will be cutting my losses - again sorry for letting you guys down.
If it is any consolation I have another plate spinning - I banged her good last week with minimal capital outlay- had to cool it off after because she became a kling-on. Too many texts and questions about my whereabouts and seeing each other again

[Goldfinger]

(10-04-2014 06:46 AM)El_gato Wrote:  

Spent 2 Friday nights and 2 Saturday mornings.. Dropped $250. To her credit she picked up one of the brunches.
You are right - will be cutting my losses - again sorry for letting you guys down.
If it is any consolation I have another plate spinning - I banged her good last week with minimal capital outlay- had to cool it off after because she became a kling-on. Too many texts and questions about my whereabouts and seeing each other again

I am fairly new here, but she is exhibiting signs of a freeloader. a. shes suggesting nice places for you two to go, b. make out with no bang.

I suggest you loose her number before you fall into an abyss and catch feelings for this girl. if/when she texts you weeks later hit her with the "who is this"

But it is vital that you drop this girl and get on other bitches ASAP.

[Feo]

She's already gone. Try a crash and burn to see what you can learn for next time

[El_gato]

Thanks man. Harsh but sound advice.
Doing radio silence , meanwhile scoring digits and have another plate spinning. If she makes contact ,I will decide to press for a bang or not. In any event I will report back on how effective the radio silence strategy is.

[Parlay44]

Make out and she had better plans that evening? Pfft next.

[El_gato]

Post script....
I deleted her number and conducted radio silence. Been two weeks now and no word from her , case closed .... Moral of the Storey is to not act like a provider and not to buy dinners etc - keep it cheap and cheerful - I was luck enough to cut my losses ... next!

[OregonToSoCal]

Months ago I had a similar situation happen to me but I ejected before the third date. Here's the breakdown of how I mishandled it so you can learn from my mistakes. Matched up with a sexy Brazilian woman on Tinder, a solid 7. Met for drinks at a nearby bar. There seemed to be some chemistry so I said she we should head back to my place for drinks and checking out my photos. She balked at that and gave me the standard "maybe next time" line and refused even a kiss. After the date she texted me saying she wanted to see me again. Figuring I had nothing to lose I setup a second date at a wine bar close to where I live. We sat on a couch and she was fine with a little making out at the bar. Again suggested we go back to my place and she balked a second time. Had a really good makeout at our cars and we parted again. A few days later she texted me expressing interest in seeing me again. I setup a meet at a sushi bar close to where I live (I know, huge mistake!) but I insisted she meet me at my place first and I would drive. She replied saying she's still "not comfortable" riding in the same car with me and oh by the way, she couldn't stay long because after we ate she was going to meet one of her girlfriends. And here's the kicker, she told me that I "just need to be patient". Um, hell no...I cancelled the date right then and there deleted her number. That one still pisses me off, both at her lack of investment and my mishandling of the whole thing. Still a great lesson in keeping my frame and not letting things go too far unless the girl is equally investing.

[El_gato]

Good story - we learn more from bad outcomes than success. Kudos to you for bailing when she was laying down markers for no sex - always best to cut your losses

[Rawmeo]

You cut it almost at the right moment, limiting your losses.

Better act more like a lover than a provider.