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Approaches in LA
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Approaches in LA

So they say LA is the hardest place to learn, but after 50 approaches time to reflect.

This is a night game approach log that will highlight key approaches. I kept a written log of this and other girl related things, have dropped off a bit since hitting 50.

Every networking event I went to I was wildly more successful and in the vibe then going out. Had two dates but didn't really push for second dates - I was bored. Both dates went really well though, I have a personality where I need to close after the first date. First one did not have much physical touch but I was on point being flirty. Second one I was practically touching every part of her body and she lagged...but she wasn't really the best looking so I didn't push for a kiss.

Learned:
-Do not answer direct questions with logical answers.
-Learn to tell stories better?
-Spin girl on dance floor for kiss faster.
-Stop talking about everything. Don't say why you're at the bar.

Texting: Do not text back fast. 20 minute minimum. Live by -25% rule.

12/19: Alumni Networking (happy hour setting)
Most approaches unsuccessful (may be due to it being somewhat awkward networking event)
-Actually tried to neg girl that approached us. Told her to give me her number, she had a boyfriend but STILL GAVE ME HER #?
(4 approaches)

12/22: Solo Clubbing (it was tough.)
-Photobombed group of Asians, this was the most successful open. Later in the night I refound her, but couldn't really keep her interest.
-Used "Let me guess" by the bar, couldn't keep interaction going.
-One girl straight up told me off.
(6 approaches, 2 opened sets)
Takeaway from night: "It's their loss, be more flirty, vibe harder"

12/27: ?
-Snobby girl, need to launch into traveling story fast
-Dance approach, push interaction to brink
(2 approaches)

12/29: Texted Girl too fast, STOP BURYING YOURSELF THINK ABOUT IT.

12/30: Monday Clubbing (tax offseason)
McQueen Warm-Up Routine on RoK - this helped. Posted at bar and got there early, talked to bartender and this really helped me out.
-Girl on subway. Asked for number, she didn't give it
-Made fun of some girl's debit card picture at the bar. Turns out we shared some common club in college. Let her go and found her later with two guys talking, pulled her away and said "let's dance". We grinded for a while but then I started talking too much and eventually lost her.
-Girls were sitting on boxes looking at phones. "you're having so much fun right now". Got DD's number but no response from texting the next day.
-Girl on dance floor looked bored, I mimicked her. Did some opinion, she actually responded. Was not engaging enough.
(9 approaches, but I left at 12 when I got there at 10...)

1/4: Felt too dressed up in North Hollywood.
-Two fat chicks opened me because they thought I worked at the bar due to being nicely dressed. No desire to keep interaction going.
-Moved bars because the place was bad. Sat far away in not very traffic area, talked to girl from Illinois - she was receptive but then said she had a boyfriend and continued to flirt with me. Qualified herself saying she was too old for me (even though I lied about my age).
-Girl texting, used finger to move screen. Tried to pull her to dance, resisted.
-Tried to pull friend by hand right next to her, resisted.
[Note: Get girls to laugh faster?]
[Note 2: You had approach anxiety for two girls, but one of them you had a GOOD CONVO. YOU CAN OPEN.]
[Note 3: More touching early. You did this when you were at the club, but not since.]
(7 approaches)

1/7 Pussed out on going out and felt like absolute shit. I will never let this happen again.

1/11 - I did not feel relaxed at SM venue.
Blown out hard core by 7 approaches. Not fun. I did attempt to at least say something to the hottest group there, not something I'd do before.
-Missed two interractions. Approach faster.
Only one set opened which was early. I excited the conversation, should have come back and tried dancing with them. I wonder what works better, trying to push one interaction hard or leaving and then coming back?

1/16 Happy Hour
Not a very good venue, but a huge work party came in. Why didn't I try to approach some of them on the free side of the bar? Get better positioning to account for spill-over.

1/19 SUIT UP w/ coworker
Suiting up hollywood is the only way to go.
-First approach white girl was receptive did some touching, should have tried to ISO.
RED PILL MOMENT: their group had a guy with them. He was really awkward and I even asked one of the girls if he was dating anyone. He wasn't.
-Asian (CUTE). Had body roll contest, started teaching her, touched her back, she introduced me to sister, admitted boyfriend to where I asked "are you happy" (she dodged question). I felt like this was the accumulation of my approaches and used everything, even my wing was impressed.
-Dirty danced some mexican girl and number closed in 30 seconds. She was being surrounded by all her friends. This was really weird but funny. She wasn't that good looking, did it more for the story.
-Girls asked me for a picture, I said "sure" and then proceeded to give the camera to somebody else while we all took a picture. This is my now go to move.
Note: I was vibing so hard tonight. This was probably the best night that I've felt going out since college ending.

2/1. My vibe was slightly better than usual.
-Two girls oepened with talking about what girl was doing in the DJ booth. Ejected and didn't retalk.
-Tried to talk to some girl on the dance floor, scared the shit out of her, teased her but nobody found it funny.
-Two blow outs.

1/31 Went out in Hollywood solo, absolutely no vibe.
-Felt timid and when approaching broke down. Sad to see progress die, blown out three times and decided to leave early.

It's now 2/13. I'm going to go out tomorrow.
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Approaches in LA

Any thoughts are much encouraged. Not sure if I should be posting greater detail or not, I'm thrilled I've done 50 approaches with a good amount being solo since finding this website.
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Richiavelli,

Keep it dude, 50 is almost a 100. I searched RVF for "solo club" as that's my plan tonight and your post popped up. As you can probably guess, I'm doing the same tonight, gonna grab a bite with a friend then suit up and roll through Hollywood.

A few points:
- You're strong to roll out solo. It's a hard skill that 90% fear because they desperately needs the social support. Hollywood is a hard place.
- On your dates, go for the bang. I can PM you some tips on that if you'd like. Once you get some fresh notches, your confidence/skills will improve. Push, and be aggressive.
- Go to the same venues routinely. This makes YOU feel more chill and comfortable in that environment. I'm currently deciding what will be my "spot" but I have a lounge in Culver City on lock-down and the more I go to clubs, the more relaxed I become when I'm gaming.
- As you can see, half the battle is just GETTING OUT THE DOOR. So much laziness will keep you inside, but you'll get warmed up when you're out and about. There's a Woody Allen quote I like that "Half of life is just showing up."

Did you hit 100 yet? What are some points you need to work on?

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Approaches in LA

Not sure if you day game.

Roosh has recommended before to keep night and day game separate when working on one. I honestly need to do both at the same time to keep my sanity.

Day gaming can relieve the stress of blowout and bad drinking night game nights by seeing there is a more pleasant route.

Night gaming can relieve the stress of number farming and the sometimes slow progress to getting dates of day game because of the fast physical action and hopeful SNL.

Sounds like you are on a battlefield out there in L.A.

McQueen has stated before it is like going to war. You have to bring it. Other reflections in L.A. posts seems to reflect this as well.

You may want to mix in some day gaming to get off the battlefield for a bit.

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