[Sawyer]

This article discusses the political climate on the ground today as the sides are being formed for the coming war.

The author describes our current cultural climate very well:

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There is a psychological angle to all of this. The rising tide of elite effeminacy is like a disease carrying the entire system into dysfunction. As men cultivate their female side women have been cultivating their male side. While men become foxes, the women are free to become lions. This perversion of human nature accelerates the disintegration of family life and leads to pandemic narcissism – a narcissism in which the “projection of the shadow” confronts the passive-aggressive man with the slogan, “I am woman, hear me roar.” This “projection of the [sexual] shadow” is not merely the result of revolutionary politics usurping the place of religion. It is, in its own right, an identity disorder (like feminism and homosexuality) in which the rejection of the true self leads to the passionate embrace of a false self. Here the male projects his anima (female side) and the female projects her animus (male side). This pathology draws the entire culture into a collective madness unequaled in world history.

And what is coming:

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One day, however, everyone will see what has happened. No words will then remain to perpetuate the deception. The bankruptcy of the foxes will herald the return of the lions. Counter-revolution will have its day. The war will come, and the world will be renewed in blood. This is the tragedy of our time. The counter-revolution will occur because counter-revolutionaries yet exist, and the revolution eventually calls them forth.

http://www.jrnyquist.com/

Female Entitlement Complex is obviously a symptom of a much greater problem here in the U.S.. It's inevitable that it will explode eventually. Get out while you can or prepare accordingly.

[iknowexactly]

oh christ, more doomsaying. what's the cost of thinking like this? Right now, instead of of worrying like an old woman, I could be making money or writing a book ( not about doomsday shit.)

[Sawyer]

I knew this was going to catch shit, even though it has an element of gender issues and psychology.

What's the cost of thinking about the NFL or other sports?

There's also going to be openings for history-making lions.

[scorpion]

(02-04-2014 12:27 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

oh christ, more doomsaying. what's the cost of thinking like this? Right now, instead of of worrying like an old woman, I could be making money or writing a book ( not about doomsday shit.)

"This is such a waste of time. I could be making money instead of talking about this!"

or

"This is useless if it isn't going to help me make money!"

I've seen variations of these responses thrown out a lot on the forum lately. It unfortunately seems to be catching on as some sort of way to shut down any sort of conversation the person disagrees with. It's basically a form of a shaming tactic. This is clearly not a thread about making money. So get the fuck out of here with a criticism that the topic is not going to make you money. Do you go into a thread about hummingbirds and say, "Fuck these hummingbirds! They aren't going to get me paid!" It makes you look like an idiot, or some kind of autistic/OCD guy who can only talk about money and has no other interests. Not everything in life is about making money, and not every thread on the forum is going to contribute to your ability to make money. You'll also see a variation where a guy will say, "How is this going to help me get laid?" Again, this is both a shaming tactic and a nonsensical criticism. This is the Everything Else forum, not a forum to discuss game tactics (the Game forum) or making money (the Lifestyle forum). Criticizing threads in Everything Else because they won't help you get "laid or paid" is like criticizing your dentist because he won't change your air filter and rotate your tires.

[Flint]

I applaud the author of this well-rounded and reasonably argued piece. He clearly demonstrates a deep understanding of International Relations theory, the internal dynamics of China's and Russia's political systems and dismisses irrational conspiracy theorists and traitors like Edward Snowden. I'm happy that finally someone raises the awareness of the imminent takeover of the US by communist cells.

[Sp5]

It might have been a good thread if you posted a realistic article, like something happening among China/Japan/Taiwan/USA or Iran/Israel/USA/China/Russia

The article you posted is a lot of nutball paranoia about the "stealth Communist president" "Cloward-Piven Strategy" Obama's plan to unilaterally disarm the USA, Putin only pretending to be a Christian, etc.

I do like a little doomster stuff, but make it believable.

[KorbenDallas]

Something is coming, I can feel it. I'm prepared, somewhat, and great response Scorpion. I've noticed the same thing in other threads where people are unnecessarily rude or dismissive and we are all guilty of being dicks every once in a while, but geez, if you hate the topic so much why waste your time commenting?

I work around 7-8 hours a day. I see my girlfriend about 4 times a week. That leaves me a lot of free time. If I want to read doomsday articles let me read them in peace!

So, Cloward-Piven strategy, seems to be one explanation for the 360 Obama made between his 2008 platform and actual policy as president.

What is your explanation?

[Agent 47]

The next World War will be fought over 2 things. Money and Resources. I strongly believe we will be lied to AGAIN, and led against our will to fight somebody that said NO to our sick system.

China is a very big threat only to the Elite. China is denoucing our dollar and seeking other forms to countinue. The elite do not like this. Expect some negotiations with China and if they fall through... Oh boy....

[Aliblahba]

(02-04-2014 12:42 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 12:27 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

oh christ, more doomsaying. what's the cost of thinking like this? Right now, instead of of worrying like an old woman, I could be making money or writing a book ( not about doomsday shit.)

"This is such a waste of time. I could be making money instead of talking about this!"

or

"This is useless if it isn't going to help me make money!"

I've seen variations of these responses thrown out a lot on the forum lately. It unfortunately seems to be catching on as some sort of way to shut down any sort of conversation the person disagrees with. It's basically a form of a shaming tactic. This is clearly not a thread about making money. So get the fuck out of here with a criticism that the topic is not going to make you money. Do you go into a thread about hummingbirds and say, "Fuck these hummingbirds! They aren't going to get me paid!" It makes you look like an idiot, or some kind of autistic/OCD guy who can only talk about money and has no other interests. Not everything in life is about making money, and not every thread on the forum is going to contribute to your ability to make money. You'll also see a variation where a guy will say, "How is this going to help me get laid?" Again, this is both a shaming tactic and a nonsensical criticism. This is the Everything Else forum, not a forum to discuss game tactics (the Game forum) or making money (the Lifestyle forum). Criticizing threads in Everything Else because they won't help you get "laid or paid" is like criticizing your dentist because he won't change your air filter and rotate your tires.

This is the typical American male entitlement attitude. In the Marines we call it "Semper I".

Relevant:

(11-20-2013 10:43 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

The spoiled child cries first.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-30271-...#pid583340

[Sawyer]

(02-04-2014 12:43 PM)Flint Wrote:  

I applaud the author of this well-rounded and reasonably argued piece. He clearly demonstrates a deep understanding of International Relations theory, the internal dynamics of China's and Russia's political systems and dismisses irrational conspiracy theorists and traitors like Edward Snowden. I'm happy that finally someone raises the awareness of the imminent takeover of the US by communist cells.

This is fox thinking. Valid points but clouded in an air of "we know betterism." "We know betterism" only works when things are getting better. When people get sick of it, the lions return.

[bacon]

I am more concerned about a Skynet type of war of robots/machines versus people. It wont be long before google starts making self driving tanks. Shit we already have insect size drones to discretly spy on us and larger types of drones that can either shoot us or bomb us with ease from the air.

[Flint]

(02-04-2014 01:06 PM)Sawyer Wrote:  

This is fox thinking. Valid points but clouded in an air of "we know betterism." "We know betterism" only works when things are getting better. When people get sick of it, the lions return.

Then enlighten me what this article can tell us about an upcoming World War like you boastfully promised in the thread title. As far as I can tell this whole thing is just an amalgam of self-fulfilling prophecies, brainless Russia-and-China-wanna-wipe-us-out whining, some valid observations on gender relations and the usual rants against feminism which you can find aplenty on any manosphere blog. The United States is the embodiment of unbridled capitalism and will remain so for the next decades yet the author pretends that there is a big communist conspiracy going on. This may be due to the fact that the dude is an American and you guys use words like communist or socialist much more loosely than most other people in the world would.

Don't be afraid. Russia and China have so many domestic problems (economically, politically and demographically) that the average American cannot even fathom. Think of Russia's huge problem with Islamist seperatism, its shrinking population and its ridiculously undiversified economy. Or of the magnitude of China's environmental devastations and the millions of Chinese men who can statistically never find a wife. Compared to that, some entitled feminist cunts in the government and your illegal Mexican immigrants are minor problems. America will stay the only superpower by mid-century simply because there is no competitor. Emasculation, feminism and distroyed families will entail many social problems but certainly not a war.

The conflicts that are going to concern us all will be much more about ethnic strife within countries, rapidly aging societies around the world, transnational movements like Islamism, new Technologies (drones, self-thinking machines) and the emergence of corporate empires (Facebook, Rosneft, Google, etc.). Time to discard traditional and outdated concepts of war and peace.

[worldwidetraveler]

(02-04-2014 12:42 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 12:27 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

oh christ, more doomsaying. what's the cost of thinking like this? Right now, instead of of worrying like an old woman, I could be making money or writing a book ( not about doomsday shit.)

"This is such a waste of time. I could be making money instead of talking about this!"

or

"This is useless if it isn't going to help me make money!"

I've seen variations of these responses thrown out a lot on the forum lately. It unfortunately seems to be catching on as some sort of way to shut down any sort of conversation the person disagrees with. It's basically a form of a shaming tactic. This is clearly not a thread about making money. So get the fuck out of here with a criticism that the topic is not going to make you money. Do you go into a thread about hummingbirds and say, "Fuck these hummingbirds! They aren't going to get me paid!" It makes you look like an idiot, or some kind of autistic/OCD guy who can only talk about money and has no other interests. Not everything in life is about making money, and not every thread on the forum is going to contribute to your ability to make money. You'll also see a variation where a guy will say, "How is this going to help me get laid?" Again, this is both a shaming tactic and a nonsensical criticism. This is the Everything Else forum, not a forum to discuss game tactics (the Game forum) or making money (the Lifestyle forum). Criticizing threads in Everything Else because they won't help you get "laid or paid" is like criticizing your dentist because he won't change your air filter and rotate your tires.

It beats getting into a pissing contest about rep points.

IKE's comments are not to shut people up, it is to get people to be constructive with their time. I have yet to meet successful, happy people who constantly feed on negativity.

Doom and gloom is pure negativity.

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This is the typical American male entitlement attitude. In the Marines we call it "Semper I".

If making the most out of your life is selfish, I would rather be selfish.

[KorbenDallas]

Flint have you ever been to America? Unbridled Capitalism? Are you serious? Starting a small business in America is extremely tough with tons of regulations, red tape, cops to bribe for many industries, city hall officials to bribe, congressmen to support, and not to mention state and federal tax AND the fact that you have stiff competition.

My family runs a successful small business and believe me the government does everything they can to get every penny out of successful legal companies, while, if your big enough, you just put your people in government.

America as the capitalist utopia is a false reality only accepted as dogma by those who aren't in business in America.

[scorpion]

(02-04-2014 01:51 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

It beats getting into a pissing contest about rep points.

IKE's comments are not to shut people up, it is to get people to be constructive with their time. I have yet to meet successful, happy people who constantly feed on negativity.

Doom and gloom is pure negativity.

I've never known successful people to be so concerned with what topics others are discussing on the internet. If posters want to spend their time talking about doom and gloom in clearly marked threads in the Everything Else forum, why do you care? It's not your (or anyone else's, Roosh/Tuth excluded since they make the rules) role to run into the thread and shit all over the conversation and start talking down to people.

[worldwidetraveler]

(02-04-2014 02:11 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

I've never known successful people to be so concerned with what topics others are discussing on the internet. If posters want to spend their time talking about doom and gloom in clearly marked threads in the Everything Else forum, why do you care? It's not your (or anyone else's, Roosh/Tuth excluded since they make the rules) role to run into the thread and shit all over the conversation and start talking down to people.

Why are you trying to make it look like I care? Voicing an opinion is hardly caring. This cuts both ways, IKE has every right to voice his opinion on this topic as you do.

It isn't your call whether he comments or not.

As for shitting on topics, you do the same thing.

You're shitting on this topic by continuing this dialog and shitted on other topics arguing you have more rep points. You could have skipped his comment and kept to the discussion at hand.

[Flint]

(02-04-2014 01:56 PM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  

Flint have you ever been to America? Unbridled Capitalism? Are you serious? Starting a small business in America is extremely tough with tons of regulations, red tape, cops to bribe for many industries, city hall officials to bribe, congressmen to support, and not to mention state and federal tax AND the fact that you have stiff competition.

My family runs a successful small business and believe me the government does everything they can to get every penny out of successful legal companies, while, if your big enough, you just put your people in government.

America as the capitalist utopia is a false reality only accepted as dogma by those who aren't in business in America.

I've lived in the US and I know that some regulations can be really heavy for small businesses. However, this did not change my overall impression how strongly the private sector and capitalist structures pervade your everday life:

The panorama of almost every place, even small towns, is plastered with ridiculous amounts of outdoor advertising. Corporate culture to the max.

Many public tasks are privatized or in a public-private-partnership. Hospitals, libraries, universities, even prisons. The fact that corporations earn money with people behind bars and lobby for longer sentencing is seriously fucked up. The Fed is essentially a private institution.

Labor protection laws are almost non-existent. That might differ from state to state but I got the impression that companies can lay off employees almost immediately whereas in countries like Germany you have the right stay employed and get your wage for another three months. People seem to be really devote their entire existence to their job and get only two weeks vacation in a year. You live to work and not vice versa.

[Aliblahba]

Blue pill, at its core is selfishness and entitlement. Only after swallowing the red pill will you realize that sometime sacrifices are necessary that may not return any personal gain. Unfortunately men aren’t being taught this anymore, and now have to look at the Baby Boomers as role models, which have all but destroyed the nation. Selfishness, immorality, and feminism are their legacy. They have effectively and proudly destroyed everything their parents built. You need to look further back to the greatest generation for examples of how to live your life. I am who I am because of being raised by two grandfathers that both fought with honor in WW II, then humbly returned home to continue forging what was then the most powerful nation this world had ever known.

As for the topic at hand, in 30 years there won't be any men left with the testicular fortitude left to fight a war.

[scorpion]

(02-04-2014 02:15 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Why are you trying to make it look like I care? Voicing an opinion is hardly caring. This cuts both ways, IKE has every right to voice his opinion on this topic as you do.

It isn't your call whether he comments or not.

As for shitting on topics, you do the same thing.

You're shitting on this topic by continuing this dialog and shitted on other topics arguing you have more rep points. You could have skipped his comment and kept to the discussion at hand.

Pretty sure you just got a temporary ban for engaging in the same behavior I just called out, so no, you don't have a right to bully/insult/belittle other posters under the guise of encouraging them to be "constructive with their time" or whatever the fuck you think you're doing by talking about money all the time. And if you have a complex about your lack of rep points, that's all on you.

[Sawyer]

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Then enlighten me what this article can tell us about an upcoming World War like you boastfully promised in the thread title.

I was going to name the thread "Thoughts on Civil War" because I took more away from the domestic analysis in the article than the international, but then decided I should name the thread after the article.

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The United States is the embodiment of unbridled capitalism and will remain so for the next decades yet the author pretends as if there is big communist conspiracy going on.

I find the US to be very communist culturally. It has drifted very far from its Western roots. I also believe communism to be primarily a cultural weapon disguised as an economic structure.

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The conflicts that are going to concern us all will be much more about ethnic strife within countries, rapidly aging societies around the world, transnational movements like Islamism, new Technologies (drones, self-thinking machines) and the emergence of corporate empires (Facebook, Rosneft, Google, etc.). Time to discard traditional and outdated concepts of war and peace.

My take is that people are tired of being told what their conflicts will be about.

[worldwidetraveler]

(02-04-2014 02:26 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 02:15 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Why are you trying to make it look like I care? Voicing an opinion is hardly caring. This cuts both ways, IKE has every right to voice his opinion on this topic as you do.

It isn't your call whether he comments or not.

As for shitting on topics, you do the same thing.

You're shitting on this topic by continuing this dialog and shitted on other topics arguing you have more rep points. You could have skipped his comment and kept to the discussion at hand.

Pretty sure you just got a temporary ban for engaging in the same behavior I just called out, so no, you don't have a right to bully/insult/belittle other posters under the guise of encouraging them to be "constructive with their time" or whatever the fuck you think you're doing by talking about money all the time. And if you have a complex about your lack of rep points, that's all on you.

No complex here matey. I don't post for reps and don't feel the need to get into arguments over who is more repped or not. You, on the other hand, seem to take them very seriously.

No one is bulling/insulting anyone in this thread. You're being overly sensitive if you took anything IKE or I said as belittling.

[scorpion]

(02-04-2014 02:30 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

No complex here matey. I don't post for reps and don't feel the need to get into arguments over who is more repped or not. You, on the other hand, seem to take them very seriously.

No one is bulling/insulting anyone in this thread. You're being overly sensitive if you took anything IKE said as belittling.

I don't post for reps either, people just seem to like what I say. Is that my fault? Should I make shittier posts in an effort to accumulate less rep? Why are we even talking about rep again? You brought this up. Totally pointless.

IKE's post was very dismissive in its tone. Go read it again. Maybe that wasn't his intention, but it came across as an effort to belittle the topic and discourage people from discussing it. And to be clear, the issue is not that he had a negative opinion or criticism, but rather that instead of expressing the reasoning behind his opinion, he simply tried to derail the entire thread before it even got started. This would be like if someone made a thread about clothes, and some guy wandered in and posted something like, "Guys this is a waste of time, fuck clothes, you just need to focus 100% on your game tactics, and if you spend any energy discussing clothes instead of game you are wasting your time and being stupid."

This is what I've observed lately with guys dismissing any topic they don't like by saying it has nothing to do with making money. It's something that should be discouraged because it limits discussion and exchange of ideas on the forum. Anyway, I don't have a beef with you and don't see any need to inflame the thread any further by going back and forth like this.

[WestCoast]

@wwt don't get banned you're needed here.

All you really have to type is "what is the point of the thread" and the whole things blows up.

Belittling is not the point at all, the reason why people who are successful get worked up is because you're pouring venom into the mouths of anyone young and impressionable reading this thread. I hate seeing young people steered wrong and doom and gloom is 100% wrong at all times. There is no value. Fear mongering is not valuable at any point in history.

Let's flip it to not getting laid and not getting paid. Okay so what?

Let's talk about fixing your style. How about making new friends? How about improving anything in your life?

Being negative never improves a person's life. These threads actually are bad on a persons health. Someone may actually believe this shit and increase his stress levels. Someone may actually be negatively impacted by it. That is why it is pure nonsense.

Threads on some cute news article is one thing for entertainment value etc, but threads trying to make people live in fear are of no value.

Forget the paid/laid part of it and just tell me what positive outcome is going to occur and I wouldn't give a shit.

[Akula]

Sure seems like something's going to go down between China and Japan at some point in the coming years. Throw Taiwan in the mix too. Maybe that'll be the trigger that will occur before any of the wacky western policies come back to bite us all in the @ss (although that has to come at some point too). The US is a staunch Japanese ally of course but can't just sit by and let things escalate or have to 'choose sides', nor can they afford to have China hit the skids either.

Japan's economic situation is pretty dicey and they are in serious jeopardy of hitting the wall in the next 2-5 years given their massive debt load, the yen devaluation and their increasing energy dependence (nuclear was like 30% of their electricity, not it's basically zero). China is also cutting off imports from Japan at an alarming rate (which is hurting them big time), and there's the continuing fallout from Fukushima + demographics (which I think are overblown) and "Abe-nomics." They are already at Defcon 5 militarily from what I've seen lately re the Senkaku islands and all the other things they are arguing over.

China's a big question mark itself - the banks have assets of like 3.5x GDP which I have always read is a significant sign they are well over-lent. The government has pumped tons of money into the economy to maintain 7.5% + growth. Apparently their loan loss reserves are like 1% which is waaaay too low - way more bad debt on the books in China than that; historically it's like 15-25% and that would mean trillions of dollars of losses if they hit a recession or even a serious slowdown.

Also, we've yet to see the full effects of the debt crisis and that's going to start kicking in at some point re write-offs and new financial crises. Europe probably first given 1) they have not yet recapitalized their banks (even Germany) , 2) the Euro is not a well thought out currency and 3) the unemployment situation in certain countries is pretty dire. I know a lot of hedge fund guys and economists like Roubini go on and on about this but in the long-run they are right...it's not a question of if but when.

Then you throw in all the other global hotspots and sure seems like something's gotta give in the coming years.

[Flint]

(02-04-2014 02:27 PM)Sawyer Wrote:  

I find the US to be very communist culturally. It has drifted very far from its Western roots. I also believe communism to be primarily a cultural weapon disguised as an economic structure.

Define communist culture. The term is vague. That proponents of feminism, multiculturalism and homosexuals are very loud and influential in the US has imho more to do with the civic culture, the media business and the demographics of the country than with the writings of Marx.

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My take is that people are tired of being told what their conflicts will be about.

Your are contradicting yourself and the article you cited. This thread is about conflicts. Every discussion is.