[quaker13]

(03-07-2019 11:10 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

^ lol I had the same conversation with my workout buddy last week regarding Panda and Ulysees. He was convinced they are natural, I laughed and didn't want to get into it.

Those cats are taking all kinds of our compounds that must be hard on their organs.

I would like to hear more about your diet or the one the nutritionist recommended.

http://www.3jsdiet.com/

This the guy I used. He gave me a specific workout regimen to follow for my goals as well as the diet and the timing of meals. I had to take a full body pic every week as well as provide measurements. He really holds you accountable and you have nobody to blame for your progress but yourself. He works with guys who are natural as well as juice heads. You really have no appreciation for nutrition until you meet a dude that knows the in's and out's of this stuff like nobody's business.

[Idries]

When you bench, as you start your way up, try to get your hands closer, without actually moving them. As if you were trying to make the bar shorter. This is a cue for pushups but it should have the same effect. Try it for one workout, maybe with a lighter weight to better understand what you are supposed to be doing.
Please come back and tell how it worked/didn’t work.
Sorry for the not-so-good English, hope my description is understandable.

[Delta]

Almost all of the comments here focus solely on the demand side of the equation; do girls like the juiced up bodybuilder physique? I would argue that the vast majority don't. But it doesn't matter when you look at the other side of the coin- SUPPLY.

For the sake of argument, let's say I'm right that almost all women are not into bodybuilders; call it 90% who aren't, 10% who are. Now question 2, how many guys look like bodybuilders? Probably less than 1%, but we'll round up. That's 10% of women fighting over a 1% subset of men. Now, if you were in that 1%, how much would it bother you that most girls are a little grossed out by your excessive musculature? On the other hand, let's say half of women are into the never-works-out marshmallow physique most guys have. Even though that build is generally more well-regarded than the juiced up build, it's still FAR less valuable due to oversupply.

Like in economics, value comes just as much from rarity as it does from demand.

[Fortis]

^ Well said, Delta.

I was thinking about that recently. It's not that my appeal has gotten wider as I've gotten bigger, but I'm simply not in the same dating pool as most dudes.

Main point though is that there is no reason to be looking bad in 2019. Get some nice clothes, control your weight and don't eat shitty food. It isn't rocket science.

[Moma]

(03-08-2019 01:12 PM)Idries Wrote:  

When you bench, as you start your way up, try to get your hands closer, without actually moving them. As if you were trying to make the bar shorter. This is a cue for pushups but it should have the same effect. Try it for one workout, maybe with a lighter weight to better understand what you are supposed to be doing.
Please come back and tell how it worked/didn’t work.
Sorry for the not-so-good English, hope my description is understandable.

That's a good idea. It may serve to have an isometric effect and keep the body tense during the lifting exercise, thus engaging more muscles while benching. This should make the exercise optimal.

[Ruslan]

(03-19-2019 05:19 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(03-08-2019 01:12 PM)Idries Wrote:  

When you bench, as you start your way up, try to get your hands closer, without actually moving them. As if you were trying to make the bar shorter. This is a cue for pushups but it should have the same effect. Try it for one workout, maybe with a lighter weight to better understand what you are supposed to be doing.
Please come back and tell how it worked/didn’t work.
Sorry for the not-so-good English, hope my description is understandable.

That's a good idea. It may serve to have an isometric effect and keep the body tense during the lifting exercise, thus engaging more muscles while benching. This should make the exercise optimal.

Agreed. I did use in the past variation of this by trying to "break" the bar as you lift.

[NonDrifter]

The guys making comments and promoting being out of shape or scrawny have clearly never been with a woman on a purely physical basis.

Let's be honest guys, as men we have many tools in our arsenal. Sure a fat out of shape clown with money can get some tail, just like a scrawny dude with some game can get some tail. However, the difference is the quality of the women and "how" the women react to you physically.

I can rest assured you a woman fucking a dude strictly for his money is going to have a completely 180 shift reaction to how she "fucks" a man who she finds physically attractive.

When a woman is fighting you to get your clothes off and you see the look in her eyes when your shirt comes off as she is ready to devour you like a piece of meat and let you have your way with her.

Compare that to the man who only has his exterior monetary gains going for him but is a fat ass overweight piece of blubber, this guy has to wine, dine and deal with "LMR" for hours on end with blue balls before she finally gets tired of his whimpering that she lets him "have sex" with her.

Yes, in the end, both guys get laid, but which side of the coin would you rather be on?

Feeling lucky that this women "out of your league" let you have sex with her

OR

Knowing that there aren't any women out of your league at least from a physical standpoint because you put in the work to become a man of physicality and when the time to get physical does occur this woman is hot and ready to get fucked by you<----- In this scenario you are framed as the prize.

She "gets" the "opportunity" to get fucked by you. NOT she is "letting you" have sex with her.

Hey getting laid is getting laid, but I can rest assure you a woman who I find physically attractive is getting fucked way better than a girl who barely passes the test.

I can assure you it's the same way with women if not more. A woman will have sex with a man for "security" but at some point will seek out to get "fucked" by men of physical means who not only have the experience of how to put it down but have the body to do so as well.

Yes there are lot's of studies on the "ideal physical body type" also I'm sure a lot of you have heard of the "golden ratio" or "Adonis index", but at the end of the day lift heavy but most importantly get your diet in order and your results will improve not just from women but how you feel about yourself.

That said today you don't have to be a "gym rat" counting calories, portioning out every meal like a fanatic and stressing over 5% or less body fat to put on weight. For most guys going to the gym 3-4 times a week and eating regular meals will give you good results. The guys who promote a bodybuilder lifestyle are getting ready for competition and that is their main focus.


Most guys just want a nicer body to get women and I understand that but it is better to do it for yourself and incorporate it as a part of your lifestyle on top of having game, style, and creating a cool fucking awesome life that women can't help but be drawn to you.

Hell as thirsty as some of you dudes come off in your post doesn't matter how big you get. With that level of "thirst" and walking around like a pit bull with its pink dick hanging out you actually turn off the majority of women who would have otherwise been attracted to you.

Even if you ain't fucking no women now you better act like you have some options. Your attitude and having done it before(or close enough) will get you further along with a "decent body" than being a jacked up hulk scaring and intimidating women because you don't understand basic body language and social cues.

That said a guy who is on either end of the extreme of being "ripped" or "jacked" with game, style and some other shit going for him is quite honestly at the top of the food chain. However guys in the middle will do well also just by being "slightly above average"

Especially In today's age it's not really that difficult but requires some work and delayed gratification.

Something the social media age, and instant gratification era are not much accustomed to.

Hopefully, threads and post like these reach them. If not it remains a tale for a few of us.

Until next time,

ND

[realologist]

(03-21-2019 01:26 PM)NonDrifter Wrote:  

The guys making comments and promoting being out of shape or scrawny have clearly never been with a woman on a purely physical basis.

Let's be honest guys, as men we have many tools in our arsenal. Sure a fat out of shape clown with money can get some tail, just like a scrawny dude with some game can get some tail. However, the difference is the quality of the women and "how" the women react to you physically.

I can rest assured you a woman fucking a dude strictly for his money is going to have a completely 180 shift reaction to how she "fucks" a man who she finds physically attractive.

When a woman is fighting you to get your clothes off and you see the look in her eyes when your shirt comes off as she is ready to devour you like a piece of meat and let you have your way with her.

Compare that to the man who only has his exterior monetary gains going for him but is a fat ass overweight piece of blubber, this guy has to wine, dine and deal with "LMR" for hours on end with blue balls before she finally gets tired of his whimpering that she lets him "have sex" with her.

Yes, in the end, both guys get laid, but which side of the coin would you rather be on?

Feeling lucky that this women "out of your league" let you have sex with her

OR

Knowing that there aren't any women out of your league at least from a physical standpoint because you put in the work to become a man of physicality and when the time to get physical does occur this woman is hot and ready to get fucked by you<----- In this scenario you are framed as the prize.

She "gets" the "opportunity" to get fucked by you. NOT she is "letting you" have sex with her.

Hey getting laid is getting laid, but I can rest assure you a woman who I find physically attractive is getting fucked way better than a girl who barely passes the test.

I can assure you it's the same way with women if not more. A woman will have sex with a man for "security" but at some point will seek out to get "fucked" by men of physical means who not only have the experience of how to put it down but have the body to do so as well.

Yes there are lot's of studies on the "ideal physical body type" also I'm sure a lot of you have heard of the "golden ratio" or "Adonis index", but at the end of the day lift heavy but most importantly get your diet in order and your results will improve not just from women but how you feel about yourself.

That said today you don't have to be a "gym rat" counting calories, portioning out every meal like a fanatic and stressing over 5% or less body fat to put on weight. For most guys going to the gym 3-4 times a week and eating regular meals will give you good results. The guys who promote a bodybuilder lifestyle are getting ready for competition and that is their main focus.


Most guys just want a nicer body to get women and I understand that but it is better to do it for yourself and incorporate it as a part of your lifestyle on top of having game, style, and creating a cool fucking awesome life that women can't help but be drawn to you.

Hell as thirsty as some of you dudes come off in your post doesn't matter how big you get. With that level of "thirst" and walking around like a pit bull with its pink dick hanging out you actually turn off the majority of women who would have otherwise been attracted to you.

Even if you ain't fucking no women now you better act like you have some options. Your attitude and having done it before(or close enough) will get you further along with a "decent body" than being a jacked up hulk scaring and intimidating women because you don't understand basic body language and social cues.

That said a guy who is on either end of the extreme of being "ripped" or "jacked" with game, style and some other shit going for him is quite honestly at the top of the food chain. However guys in the middle will do well also just by being "slightly above average"

Especially In today's age it's not really that difficult but requires some work and delayed gratification.

Something the social media age, and instant gratification era are not much accustomed to.

Hopefully, threads and post like these reach them. If not it remains a tale for a few of us.

Until next time,

ND

[wp960]

hahaha all the time- super jacked Adonises young guys cannot even approach, getting so worked up that I, 45, 6'2 191lbs can pull hot bitches all the time. I am in the gym a lot but look no where near some of these guys (21-28yr old), but they get no women... only maybe some of the older 40+ fitness sluts. I do think there is a point of no returns.

[Tinder Scientist]

(03-25-2019 10:24 PM)wp960 Wrote:  

hahaha all the time- super jacked Adonises young guys cannot even approach, getting so worked up that I, 45, 6'2 191lbs can pull hot bitches all the time. I am in the gym a lot but look no where near some of these guys (21-28yr old), but they get no women... only maybe some of the older 40+ fitness sluts. I do think there is a point of no returns.

Male hamster is strong on this one.

[Sidney Crosby]

I once saw a guy, probably 6'4 230 10% BF, male model looks get rejected by some girl at the club.

Height, muscles and face don't matter because I saw her leave later with some short fat guy that was dressed like a Sheikh. Girls must not care about physical appearance..... only GAME.

[rudebwoy]

What does that prove?

You obviously paid attention to the guy, how did you determine what his body fat percentage was.

[quaker13]

(03-28-2019 05:55 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

I once saw a guy, probably 6'4 230 10% BF, male model looks get rejected by some girl at the club.

Height, muscles and face don't matter because I saw her leave later with some short fat guy that was dressed like a Sheikh. Girls must not care about physical appearance..... only GAME.

"I once" tells me everything i need to know

[wp960]

(03-27-2019 07:35 AM)Tinder Scientist Wrote:  

(03-25-2019 10:24 PM)wp960 Wrote:  

hahaha all the time- super jacked Adonises young guys cannot even approach, getting so worked up that I, 45, 6'2 191lbs can pull hot bitches all the time. I am in the gym a lot but look no where near some of these guys (21-28yr old), but they get no women... only maybe some of the older 40+ fitness sluts. I do think there is a point of no returns.

Male hamster is strong on this one.

GTFO, go lift some weights Weiner head

[Sidney Crosby]

(03-29-2019 08:54 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

(03-28-2019 05:55 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

I once saw a guy, probably 6'4 230 10% BF, male model looks get rejected by some girl at the club.

Height, muscles and face don't matter because I saw her leave later with some short fat guy that was dressed like a Sheikh. Girls must not care about physical appearance..... only GAME.

"I once" tells me everything i need to know

I thought the sarcasm was obvious enough.

[asdfk]

I visited a North European country recently and helped out a buddy who is a powerlifting competitor with his daygame.

That he asked for my help, the ugly fuck that I am, says a lot.

This guy is properly socialized and has a build to be envious of. Still he wasn't getting anywhere. Not his fault. He kinda looks like General Stalin and as far as I know the General is doing very well in the US with his build.

The cold weather, cold temperament and shitty attitude of the girls does not reward that look as much as in the US.

A visit to a local pool was friggin' terrible. I am so happy that I live in tropical locations where the people take better care of themselves.

[Sidney Crosby]

^ Instead of day game why not go to a bar or club with him. There should be girls throwing their pussies at him.

[asdfk]

I went out with him a few times and I never saw this. He does get better responses than during daygsme.