[deebow]

(03-22-2011 09:59 AM)kayel_justice Wrote:  

(12-22-2010 09:18 PM)deebow Wrote:  

I have to admit, I love all three cities. I think Vancouver girls are easier to swoop. Toronto has a higher concentration of fine women there and is more of a cosmopolitan city. I hate to sound like a broken record, but VP is right. Montreal is the shit. The women are mad liberal, the vibe is cool. The older people can be grumpy if you don't speak french, but I trust that that's not the demographic that you intend to attract. Hit up St.Catherine's at night and everything will be at your disposal.

Everyone dresses to a tee out there. Young or old. Make sure to bring your GQ out for real. Nightlife is definitely better than Toronto (It's not easy to say that about any city).

Vancouver is simply beautiful and very laid back. I'm not sure that I can identify with any of these cities being stuck up. It seemed like people were dying to help me in Vancouver and Montreal. In the Tdot, they go about their business but no one was exactly rude. You can surely get at women in the malls or in the clubs out there. I feel as though day or night game works well in any of those three cities but I'd still go to Montreal.

Out of Toronto and Vancouver, I'd go to Vancouver if I were you. I think that it's easier to swoop freaks there and you could probably tap quality ass there in a shorter time frame that you could in Toronto. In general, I'd say you'd have to put in a bit more work in Toronto but if you have the time, you'll be rewarded.

Deebow. I think you hit it on the head, but I have a question for you. Hear me out first please. I admit, when I went to TO I was simply amazed. My jaw dropped everywhere, the girls in TO are smoking hot, curvy, very fine and athletic. I have a thing for athletic girls, or sports chicks body types, it seemed it was a plenty in TO. Like a comic artist came and drew all the women, just like super heroes with crazy hip to waist ratios. But, after hearing about people talking about MTL's lifestyle, art, events, and women, i want to visit. But the voice in my head keeps saying to go back to TO!

My question is,
How much better are TO girls than MTL?

TO girls aren't better than girls in MTL in my opinion. This is why I think that it is better to go to MTL. You really can't go wrong in either city. It would be like saying who has hotter women, Colombia or Brazil. Well you'll fine dimes in either country and a bunch of them all over. You can't go wrong there. I however, feel that MTL has an advantage because they are more open sexually and they are just oh so fine! I'd say that pound for pound, they're better looking. You need to see that place. I think that it's great that you've had a great time in TO. I can't wait until you see MTL because I think you'll like it better. TO however, cannot be beat for it's diversity, from what I've seen in passed rankings, it has been ranked as the #1 diverse city in the world (London was #2 and New York was #3. This was 2 years ago).

[deebow]

This may not kill the speculation. But please scratch PEI, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick off of your list. The maritimes have little quality there.

Mixx,

A serious answer to your question above is that almost all Major Canadian cities have beautiful women. Montreal has sexy freaks and the costs are okay. TO and Vancouver have sexy freaks but they it will cost you to visit because those cities are expensive as shit. Calgary has fine ass women but you may run into other problems as discussed earlier. Winnipeg has great quality women that will freak (believe this) but it's not exactly a place that will have things to do (besides freak women) at your disposal. Edmonton, I would argue is a better place for women than Calgary.

Check out this link. It is Askmen's top 10 canadian cities for hot women.

http://ca.askmen.com/top_10/travel_150/1...p_ten.html

Thoughts anyone.

[Luckystar]

(03-22-2011 07:02 PM)deebow Wrote:  

This may not kill the speculation. But please scratch PEI, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick off of your list. The maritimes have little quality there.

Mixx,

A serious answer to your question above is that almost all Major Canadian cities have beautiful women. Montreal has sexy freaks and the costs are okay. TO and Vancouver have sexy freaks but they it will cost you to visit because those cities are expensive as shit. Calgary has fine ass women but you may run into other problems as discussed earlier. Winnipeg has great quality women that will freak (believe this) but it's not exactly a place that will have things to do (besides freak women) at your disposal. Edmonton, I would argue is a better place for women than Calgary.

Check out this link. It is Askmen's top 10 canadian cities for hot women.

http://ca.askmen.com/top_10/travel_150/1...p_ten.html

Thoughts anyone.

The parties are better in Edmonton and the women are easier. In terms of quality, Calgary is superior.

[Moma]

As an advisor, I would strongly recommend Montreal if anything. Too much B.S in Toronto and too much flakiness. Women in Toronto think they are New Yorkers (and believe me, they are not even close) so they feel they got to have this uppity attitude.

For someone who just wants to tap some ass without to listen to some B.S feminist ish, just go to Montreal. Time is money.

Deebow: You say Winnipeg is still easy with the lash? I might really have to put a flight out to there and clean up. I have yet to get my First Nation flag...

[deebow]

Let me know when you go Moma. I might just roll up there with you.

[Excelsior]

Here is a good thread on another popular forum about toronto women. Their conclusion is the same as what I've read here: extremely attractive, but stuck up and flaky.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/toronto/1...flaky.html

[yourboychris]

I grew up in Toronto, but studied in Vancouver. Here is my comparison:

Toronto:
Much better night life
Better quality of girls

Vancouver
People are friendlier and more laid back

[rudebwoy]

(03-23-2011 09:09 AM)Moma Wrote:  

As an advisor, I would strongly recommend Montreal if anything. Too much B.S in Toronto and too much flakiness. Women in Toronto think they are New Yorkers (and believe me, they are not even close) so they feel they got to have this uppity attitude.

For someone who just wants to tap some ass without to listen to some B.S feminist ish, just go to Montreal. Time is money.

Deebow: You say Winnipeg is still easy with the lash? I might really have to put a flight out to there and clean up. I have yet to get my First Nation flag...

I second this. Montreal all day and everyday. Do not visit when F1 is in town unless you like F1, it is a man fest. Do visit the Montreal Jazz festival or the Comedy Festival (assuming these are still running).

I live in Toronto, lived in London and visited New York many times. Yes they maybe diverse for women but they are three of the toughest markets you will find.

[Vacancier Permanent]

Good overview of the Canadian city Luckystar. I have yet to go to Western Canada and I may well do it this summer. Anyone from here who would like to team up to travel and party in say Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, let's join forces together. Speaking of smaller cities in Ontario, I keep on hearing from my buddies that cities like Sarnia, Sudbury are a goldmine with hot, freaky and easy girls who are extremely DTF. Anyone from here can confirm that?

[Moma]

(04-03-2011 11:21 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(03-23-2011 09:09 AM)Moma Wrote:  

As an advisor, I would strongly recommend Montreal if anything. Too much B.S in Toronto and too much flakiness. Women in Toronto think they are New Yorkers (and believe me, they are not even close) so they feel they got to have this uppity attitude.

For someone who just wants to tap some ass without to listen to some B.S feminist ish, just go to Montreal. Time is money.

Deebow: You say Winnipeg is still easy with the lash? I might really have to put a flight out to there and clean up. I have yet to get my First Nation flag...

I second this. Montreal all day and everyday. Do not visit when F1 is in town unless you like F1, it is a man fest. Do visit the Montreal Jazz festival or the Comedy Festival (assuming these are still running).

I live in Toronto, lived in London and visited New York many times. Yes they maybe diverse for women but they are three of the toughest markets you will find.

I second this statement totally. I have no interest in places that are diverse with women who look pretty if they are generally UNATTAINABLE.

I am not a window shopper. I like to actually buy what I see. For me, the fantasy is not greater than the conquest.

When I came to Toronto, I was very outgoing and a ruthless road warrior. I had been honed by London (stooshville) and Miami so I came to eat up Toronto.

However, I was flaked tremendously. Here is my take on Toronto. It's a beautiful city but I find it creates a lot of betas who end up either marrying a woman or going into a relationship just because they cannot handle the countless rejections from women they are attracted to.

I see a lot of young men here wified up when they could be out there refining their skills with the opposite sex.

My take on Toronto: It's a woman's city. Feminist paradise.

This is not just my conclusion but I have actually gotten conclusions from other FEMALES (immigrants) who have said stuff like: What is wrong with the men in Toronto?

[Luckystar]

(04-04-2011 08:52 AM)Moma Wrote:  

My take on Toronto: It's a woman's city. Feminist paradise.

This is not just my conclusion but I have actually gotten conclusions from other FEMALES (immigrants) who have said stuff like: What is wrong with the men in Toronto?

Definitely agree about the guys in this city. The guys in Toronto definitely give these bitches way way too much love. Completely undeserved, Toronto girls are not even good looking. Or classy for that matter.

Toronto girls are more comparable to girls in Calgary, as opposed to NYC or LA. Guys here don't give them a reality check.

[Kurupt]

OK guys I'm from Toronto too, well I've been living here for 5 years now, ready to move out of here because I've noticed the same things going on - success is not impossible, but I don't feel I'm getting as high enough ROI if you know what I mean.

What cities can you suggest that are cosmopolitan/international, active and very much alive? I will assume this means getting out of Canada (i'm cool with that too!) I was set on Tokyo before, but that is being re-evaluated pending their situation.

Montreal? (I don't know french)
Shanghai? HK?
Tokyo? Osaka?
Amsterdam?
What's the verdict on SF and NYC?
Open to any suggestions!

[Kaizen]

Marginal girls giving attitude in Toronto is an epidemic

Kurupt your lack of french shouldn't stop you from considering Mtl but the crappy weather should. It is also an economic backwater.

Since you are lucky to be flexible, say goodbye to Canada. No reason to stay.

I would say japan is out owing to the unknown radiation issue

Maybe start a new thread? To get members advice on this one Am sure it depends also how you make your bread.

[Kurupt]

Hey bigxxx thanks for weighing in - I did consider starting a new thread but I agreed so much with the posters in this thread that I wanted to get opinions from some people who truly understand the Toronto situation. You make a great point about the weather - although for some reason Montreal sounds more bearable because the girls are still hot despite the cold, vs. Toronto where they freeze up regardless.

I sell stuff online, it's location independent, which is why I find myself on google maps and on this forum pretty often, haha. I just want to make a good decision - I've traveled plenty, but this time I want to make a more permanent move. I'm really into the eurasian girl look (white-asian mixes with japan, china, korea as the ingredients)

[rudebwoy]

Moma - you are so on the money, Toronto is beta ville. I work with some dudes and they worship there girlfriends asses, funny how the married guys act like there lives are over. I look at some of these online ads (POF) and these old ugly ass girls have all these demands.

Luckystar - guys so need to give these girls a reality check. I find using NEGS on these girls really works here b/c they are so not use too it.

Kurupt - I would choose Amsterdam on your list, or though I hear northern Holland is better. A indian friend of mine went to a city close to the Belgian border and had a great time. But I see you are into Asians so maybe you have to go closer to the source.

[MiXX]

(04-04-2011 08:52 AM)Moma Wrote:  

I second this statement totally. I have no interest in places that are diverse with women who look pretty if they are generally UNATTAINABLE.

ME TOOO!!! Especially spending all the travel $$$ to visit it. I already live in Miami, and can deal with bullshit and drama for free here, or at much lower cost.

(04-04-2011 08:52 AM)Moma Wrote:  

I am not a window shopper. I like to actually buy what I see. For me, the fantasy is not greater than the conquest.

Damn...me too!

(04-04-2011 08:52 AM)Moma Wrote:  

When I came to Toronto, I was very outgoing and a ruthless road warrior. I had been honed by London (stooshville) and Miami so I came to eat up Toronto.

Since you already know the bullshit in Miami a man has to go through to get laid, I definitely trust your opinion even more now!

(04-04-2011 08:52 AM)Moma Wrote:  

Here is my take on Toronto. It's a beautiful city but I find it creates a lot of betas who end up either marrying a woman or going into a relationship just because they cannot handle the countless rejections from women they are attracted to.

I see a lot of young men here wified up when they could be out there refining their skills with the opposite sex.

My take on Toronto: It's a woman's city. Feminist paradise.

This is not just my conclusion but I have actually gotten conclusions from other FEMALES (immigrants) who have said stuff like: What is wrong with the men in Toronto?

Yeah, I'd love to hang in Toronto one day for the experience, but I will bring my own dime piece from another part of Canada (Montreal) to party with.

Mixx

[HD668B]

(04-04-2011 08:52 AM)Moma Wrote:  

My take on Toronto: It's a woman's city. Feminist paradise.

This is not just my conclusion but I have actually gotten conclusions from other FEMALES (immigrants) who have said stuff like: What is wrong with the men in Toronto?

I stated in many threads that Canada is much more socialist than USA, so again your experience is not surprising.

[rudebwoy]

Mixx - Montreal people hardly ever come to Toronto, unless it is for business. Toronto people always go to Montreal for a social break away from the big smoke.

[Saladin]

I'm glad I'm learning game in Toronto as it will make my game really strong. A couple of my friends who visited Montreal say that its far easier there and the guys over there have pretty weak game compared to guys here. There's an advantage to learning in a tough environment. However, I don't want to stay in Toronto for more than a few years. I want to establish the global player lifestyle after I graduate University.

[MiXX]

(04-08-2011 12:24 AM)torontokid Wrote:  

I want to establish the global player lifestyle after I graduate University.

Careful what you wish for there kiddo. You may get it!

I established a global player lifestyle as soon as I graduated U back in 1997. I am now 36, and have never married or had kids, and I don't think I ever will marry after banging easily over 800 women around the world. Being a player will make you see women for whom they really are. You will see they are not the princesses you should kneel, bow-down to and worship to win her approval like your mommy told you it should be.

However, if you truly want to know what women are like, take the red pill....and welcome, to the real world.

Mixx

[Moma]

(04-04-2011 04:10 PM)Kurupt Wrote:  

OK guys I'm from Toronto too, well I've been living here for 5 years now, ready to move out of here because I've noticed the same things going on - success is not impossible, but I don't feel I'm getting as high enough ROI if you know what I mean.

What cities can you suggest that are cosmopolitan/international, active and very much alive? I will assume this means getting out of Canada (i'm cool with that too!) I was set on Tokyo before, but that is being re-evaluated pending their situation.

Montreal? (I don't know french)
Shanghai? HK?
Tokyo? Osaka?
Amsterdam?
What's the verdict on SF and NYC?
Open to any suggestions!

You can learn French. I know a few peeps from Montreal that can't speak a lick of French beyond 'bonjour' and 'ca va'.

I think that U.S is worth a shot for a bit. The U.S is in the works for me. I don't have much longer to play the scene (as they say in soccer, we are now in injury time) and I eventually want to stop chasing women and 'gaming' on them.

I would like to settle down with the right woman one day (if that indeed exists). However, I won't be forced into this by the Toronto beta-isms.

[Kurupt]

Yeah I'm relieved that I'm not the only one who picked up on the strange vibe in Toronto. Walking around the city and using the TTC, I can safely describe the males as either hipster trashy weird or a generic, emotionless office drone with 0 sense of style and some faint hint of asian/euro 3rd generation background. Either way, these guys ruin it for the rest of us - girls get a lot of credit here for not doing much at all.

I was at Drake the other week and there were some cute girls making eye contact, I couldn't believe it, I asked them how they like Toronto...yeah surprise surprise it was their 1st or 2nd time visiting from some random town in Ontario. They were the friendliest girls in the entire place (Drake top floor patio area), and happened to be the hottest. I feel reborn every time I visit Montreal. Can't take their winters though.

[ManAbout]

(04-04-2011 04:10 PM)Kurupt Wrote:  

OK guys I'm from Toronto too, well I've been living here for 5 years now, ready to move out of here because I've noticed the same things going on - success is not impossible, but I don't feel I'm getting as high enough ROI if you know what I mean.

What cities can you suggest that are cosmopolitan/international, active and very much alive? I will assume this means getting out of Canada (i'm cool with that too!) I was set on Tokyo before, but that is being re-evaluated pending their situation.

Montreal? (I don't know french)
Shanghai? HK?
Tokyo? Osaka?
Amsterdam?
What's the verdict on SF and NYC?
Open to any suggestions!

How do you plan to live in these places legally? For example, as a Canadian citizen(I assume), you can only stay in Amsterdam for 90 days at a time.

[rudebwoy]

Yeah I hardly go downtown, there are alot of hipsters/gay men and weirdo's. But fcuk there are some hotties working in the stores on Queen st. I was in a store the other day and some dude was trying on shoes, when he was finished he told the sales clerk that he has to bring his woman to make the final decision. WTF

I then made my purchase in less than 5 minutes and teased the sales clerk about me not needing to bring anyone. The clerk proceeded to tell me that is a common theme in the shop!

Someone sd Toronto girls need a wake-up call, I strongly agree.

Kurupt - out of town girls are a much different breed. When they come to the big city they are game for action.

[Kurupt]

(04-09-2011 09:20 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(04-04-2011 04:10 PM)Kurupt Wrote:  

OK guys I'm from Toronto too, well I've been living here for 5 years now, ready to move out of here because I've noticed the same things going on - success is not impossible, but I don't feel I'm getting as high enough ROI if you know what I mean.

What cities can you suggest that are cosmopolitan/international, active and very much alive? I will assume this means getting out of Canada (i'm cool with that too!) I was set on Tokyo before, but that is being re-evaluated pending their situation.

Montreal? (I don't know french)
Shanghai? HK?
Tokyo? Osaka?
Amsterdam?
What's the verdict on SF and NYC?
Open to any suggestions!

How do you plan to live in these places legally? For example, as a Canadian citizen(I assume), you can only stay in Amsterdam for 90 days at a time.

There are always ways around anything - working holiday visa, work visa, or hopping around schengen zone 6 months out of 12 (i.e. the cold canadian months). Finding a part time job on the ground is doable, especially when you are spurred on by the promise of not having to freeze for another 8 months in TO.