[Ilovejaneandfinch]

Since easiness of the chicks in Toronto is among the worst in the western world and this place is all cold and closed in term of people, I am looking to outside of Toronto as they are not approachable and it is even harder for one to approach/talk to you. I get a lot of good stares by girls in Toronto on the subway ect lol. And I have been told by some that I am above average for good looks, but due to the above, it is so hard here even with good looks that I am looking to elsewhere. I have already booked my ticket to Peru, but I am wondering where in Latin America exactly people have found the girls to be easiest of all. I am looking to the Americas only as it is where I am already going and is closer and cheaper to travel to and entry requirement is easy.

Also, I would like this to be more about easiness, not quality so quality/types is not a factor in this subject. I thought I heard about Manaus being another easy one so there may be less talked about cities where simply a chick finding you quite cute in a public place is enough and then you score from there. Would be interesting if there are any cities where guys have the experience where they are so easy, a girl will actually approach in a public place if she is interested or finds you cute/attractive.

[El_gato]

I feel your pain ... Been living in Tdot my whole adult life. Having said that, have had some good runs here ...all depends on your mojo and running tandum options. In a drought currently ...
To answer your question ... Go to La Habana ! Read my trip report for details on how to do it right: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-31560.html
Best to speak some Spanish and dance a bit of salsa or bachata but not necessary. If you totally have no game , hang out at la casa de la musica every night and day game in the park at the intersection of ave Galiano y San Rafael.
You will return to the frigid t dot with a new perspective ...
Bien viaje !

[Mentavious]

Too many of these threads have been popping recently.

You guys need to use the search function.

[lavidaloca]

(01-28-2014 07:57 PM)El_gato Wrote:  

I feel your pain ... Been living in Tdot my whole adult life. Having said that, have had some good runs here ...all depends on your mojo and running tandum options. In a drought currently ...
To answer your question ... Go to La Habana ! Read my trip report for details on how to do it right: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-31560.html
Best to speak some Spanish and dance a bit of salsa or bachata but not necessary. If you totally have no game , hang out at la casa de la musica every night and day game in the park at the intersection of ave Galiano y San Rafael.
You will return to the frigid t dot with a new perspective ...
Bien viaje !

Keep in mind that the girls approaching you in Habana will in almost all cases be prostitutes.

[QuanumPimpin]

Dude you have to learn some game. Start with Roosh's books and go from there. Another good read is the Perfect Conversation by member 20Nation. But dude, women arent going to approach you for the most part unless theyre whores. Especially in those predominately Catholic Latin countries. So you can either become a John or you can learn some game. The part I love about game the most is the art of the approach. What can she tell but no. Man up, Bro!

[El_gato]

Sure, the direct approaches will be pros. You will soon tire of that and thirst for a hunt. You will be able to implement primal mating signals - eye contact , grooming , kino etc . Most if the girls are game and yea most will expect some "help" for their family in the end . In havana you can be the alpha and approach all the time withou rebuff. Even if chicas are not game they will flirt and banter _ the way it should be

[Ilovejaneandfinch]

(01-28-2014 08:06 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  

(01-28-2014 07:57 PM)El_gato Wrote:  

I feel your pain ... Been living in Tdot my whole adult life. Having said that, have had some good runs here ...all depends on your mojo and running tandum options. In a drought currently ...
To answer your question ... Go to La Habana ! Read my trip report for details on how to do it right: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-31560.html
Best to speak some Spanish and dance a bit of salsa or bachata but not necessary. If you totally have no game , hang out at la casa de la musica every night and day game in the park at the intersection of ave Galiano y San Rafael.
You will return to the frigid t dot with a new perspective ...
Bien viaje !

Keep in mind that the girls approaching you in Habana will in almost all cases be prostitutes.

Ok Thanks. That seems easy because it is actually the closest country I can travel to from the T-dot! Seems to also be the cheapest. So I can certainly try. I am arriving in Peru in precisely 3 months and zero hours! But after my experience there, it will be easier to get to havana.

But if I do find out that for sure I only stand a chance to run into pros, I may steer clear of the place. I am a very casual person and like laid back places. Maybe I won't end up in a place so darn close to where I come from.

[Ilovejaneandfinch]

Some have posted about guys with "no" or "zero" game stating about main countries like Colombia being hard, but the easiest countries like Peru Phillipines are for guys with no game as long as they pretty much perfectly fit the tall, white, blue eyed good looking northern white dude. So while I know that learning game is needed if I want to do what most people want to do, people posted here from past experience that guys even with pretty much no game get to pull. I wish more people went in more recent times like 2013 to the "dark green countries" and reported on how it is now to know if or how much this has changed. The easiest countries on that map you must have heard about seem to be the only ones where people report guys getting it with no game. Although, there is the risk that you don't get quality most people seek. Although with the way I like indigenous so much, maybe it won't be so bad after all. An indigenous 5, attainable with no game for everyone else good looking and american white may be my 7 or 8 because I like indigenous so much.
The post you can find in google
Pickup Artists Put Together Map Rating "Easiness of Girls by Country"

There are very few dark green countries in this map that coincide with not so bad countries, but from what I read in past postings, these can be done with no game. Peru must be the best country in here because of how good it is for travel and how the girls aren't horrendous. I mean, I wouldn't go to Congo, just for girls, because I like asian looks the most and the trip would be boring! lol

[Road_Less_Taken]

Yeah honestly I don't see a problem if you go to Peru. You kind of want that rock star status where you don't do too much but get a lot of attention, normally this is difficult unless the quality is lower but since you'd be interested in indigenous looking girls I don't see a problem.

If I was you I'd strap on a backpack and go to Perus lesser known cities in the Amazon, like Pucallpa. Or just go to South East Asia since you like Asian looks. I got double as much interest from girls in the Philippines than girls in Peru.

[Ilovejaneandfinch]

(01-29-2014 11:34 AM)Road_Less_Taken Wrote:  

Yeah honestly I don't see a problem if you go to Peru. You kind of want that rock star status where you don't do too much but get a lot of attention, normally this is difficult unless the quality is lower but since you'd be interested in indigenous looking girls I don't see a problem.

If I was you I'd strap on a backpack and go to Perus lesser known cities in the Amazon, like Pucallpa. Or just go to South East Asia since you like Asian looks. I got double as much interest from girls in the Philippines than girls in Peru.

Thanks. I was thinking about the Phillipines and Devao and such. It is just too bad it is not like Peru where visa is easiest in the world you don't even have to leave your own time zone! I really want to try Phillipines though if possible for an extended period because funny enough, I was already really interested in that country for a whole host of other things such as Christmas lol. And as for other cities in Peru, I read Cusco as being the easiest city, although you mentioning cities like Pucallpa makes me think that chances are, I will find better corners of the country as 'fresh territory' with less gringos and an even better exotic factor. They may not have gotten the attention as getting listed as "easiest city in the world" like Cuzco, but are in Peru (rating of 1 on that map) and I guess I will hit my gold mine in some city away from Cuzco such as Pucallpa. So I can try it out. Peru and Phillipines are likely a close tie once you go and seek out the best corners of the countries. I imagine a city like Pucallpa will be an amazing experience to get attention from girls.

Even when I lived in Suriname, I was hit on in ways I knew would lead to them wanting to even at times literally 'attack me' almost, despite Suriname being much lower on the easiness scale. Like for example one time just asking for directions in the burbs of Paramaribo. Next thing I knew I had her number! lol So as written in that thread about "pussy paradise" Peru, you will get it if you look for it in such a place as that, even if you don't have the game like is essential in Rio, Cancun, Caracas, Medellin ect with model-like white girls. While I know I will have to be the one doing the approach in most cases, (which was so simple as asking directions in Suriname) I guess conversation is what gets you going there.

[germanico]

"I need a place where I can get laid without game"

[Ilovejaneandfinch]

Oh! btw, I did read that Iquitos was not easy like Cuzco or even Lima. I only read that in one source so it could be wrong, but if it is right, I still have Yurimaguas, Pucallpa ect. Although I don't know why Iquitos would be hard. It is a big city kinda and seems comparable like any medium to large Phillipines city away from Manila, due to its look and such so I don't know why it would be a hard one. But there is little published about it.

[Ilovejaneandfinch]

(01-29-2014 12:31 PM)germanico Wrote:  

"I need a place where I can get laid without game"

That is not a bad thing necesarly. Not everyone has it and not everyone is even a nightclub type person, but we all love girls. I am just transitioning from being a bookworm in Toronto to a one much more into getting to girls (lol), but I see it as a talent that enough people in this world don't have and need time to learn.

Luckily for people like that there are countries like Peru, PH ect where you don't need that 'extra social talent' to be with girls that are sure to like you since we are all social in a way.

I found an interesting post in another thread, RE: I can see why people become game denialist and post by OGNorCal707:

"If I ever get caught up in the realm of thinking like a game denialist it's most likely due to when I observe tall, good looking guys with NO game who end up still pulling hot chicks, simply due to the their looks. This happens quite frequently, because even though they have minimal game, women approach them, and basically do all the "work" and show all the interest, to facilitate the hook up, so all the guy has to do is make a move to touch, kiss, then say "let's get out of here" and take the girl home. All the while, the less attractive guy has to put in work, doing approaches, being witty/funny, being a good conversationalist, creating comfort, and repoir, dealing with shit tests, etc., etc., etc. Shit like that is what often times makes me question the validity of game. When a guy just gets completely lucky, that is obviously apparent, when it's not a matter of looks or game."

I can see why he would be right. I mean, if you are a girl in one of these countries that is attracted by looks a lot more and you see a guy so hot, you get caliente, it won't matter when the crappy one next to him is trying to use his game to make you go with him instead. If a girl is the kind that is impressed by looks, then I guess she will go with the guy she has the hots for and almost want to tell the other gringo to go game a girl that likes him lol Of course, for all those girls that are about "what's inside that counts" this won't happen, but for the many girls that go for who they have the hots for, I guess that post must be right. That girl that eye-fucked me on the Danforth subway and tried to initiate conversation by placing a Metro newspaper next to me in Tdot must be one of them lol I didn't realise that was what she was doing until I got off.

Different people have different takes on this, but I guess that WHERE you do it and how well you click with the locals is the reason for the differences.

[Ilovejaneandfinch]

Just in case anyone didn't know it is really easy to stay a super long time in the Phillipines, well it is!
I was quitting on my idea to go to the Phillipines as the other option for a super easy experience with girls, but after I found out it is literally JUST AS EASY visa-wise as Peru, I think I may actually head to the Phillipines soon as the next great option. I was suggested here that it is a good idea and the text I pasted below seems to show just how I can no longer skip on this opportunity. I just go to the country and chill as long as I want and just keep going back to immigration!

"You can now easily extend your stay in the Philippines for up to 16 month without ever having a Visa for the Philippines and without ever leaving the country.
Most foreigners enter the Philippines without any Visa and they will get a stamp in their passports which is good for 30 (new!) days. If someone wants to extent their stay, you would have to go the nearest Immigration Office and get your first extension, good for another 38 days. The cost for this first extension is 3010,- Peso.
Now you are already 59 days in the Philippines and your regular extension series starts by showing up at the Immigration Office every 2 month, just maybe a couple of days before your stamp expires.
If you have to go to the Immigration Office, make sure to wear long pants, a nice shirt and shoes. Otherwise you might not be serviced, some Immigration offices (Cebu) might not even let you in.

New in August 2013: Tourists without a visa will now be allowed to stay for 30 days instead of 21. There might be an extension of up to 6 month available now. Stay tuned in.

Last Update: August 2013"

[Merenguero]

(01-28-2014 08:06 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  

(01-28-2014 07:57 PM)El_gato Wrote:  

I feel your pain ... Been living in Tdot my whole adult life. Having said that, have had some good runs here ...all depends on your mojo and running tandum options. In a drought currently ...
To answer your question ... Go to La Habana ! Read my trip report for details on how to do it right: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-31560.html
Best to speak some Spanish and dance a bit of salsa or bachata but not necessary. If you totally have no game , hang out at la casa de la musica every night and day game in the park at the intersection of ave Galiano y San Rafael.
You will return to the frigid t dot with a new perspective ...
Bien viaje !

Keep in mind that the girls approaching you in Latin America will in almost all cases be prostitutes.

I fixed it for you.

[Ilovejaneandfinch]

(01-29-2014 06:50 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(01-28-2014 08:06 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  

(01-28-2014 07:57 PM)El_gato Wrote:  

I feel your pain ... Been living in Tdot my whole adult life. Having said that, have had some good runs here ...all depends on your mojo and running tandum options. In a drought currently ...
To answer your question ... Go to La Habana ! Read my trip report for details on how to do it right: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-31560.html
Best to speak some Spanish and dance a bit of salsa or bachata but not necessary. If you totally have no game , hang out at la casa de la musica every night and day game in the park at the intersection of ave Galiano y San Rafael.
You will return to the frigid t dot with a new perspective ...
Bien viaje !

Keep in mind that the girls approaching you in Latin America will in almost all cases be prostitutes.

I fixed it for you.

I have read that there is huge variation in latin america so the same can't be said about all parts. But that said, Peru and Bolivia are the only countries in All of latin america that got a score of #1 on the bang map, and the rest score harder or much harder. So it is seeming to me like it is basically a hard world for finding easy pulls outside of Peru/Phillipines without it being a pro. I found this in another thread "I haven't been to the Dominican Republic yet but from reading about it on this forum i would say that that would be a better bet for getting laid (with non pro's) than Cuba." So I guess Cuba just is plain hard for sure.

I guess since a lot of the less trafficked spots are not reported on due to lack of gringo visitor numbers, I have to venture out myself to find out how easy they really are.