[mastauser]

I have two sticking points lately:

When to start touching a girl? Should I wait before she touches me to prevent showing interest or should I start touching to show interest?

Who has good resources about talking emotional vs. logical? Any good examples or material?

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Immediately. When meeting her the first time, shake her hand and briefly touch her forearm with your other hand. It's called "the politician's handshake".

[Bacchus]

I generally place my hand right behind her elbow as soon as I begin talking to her. Handshake optional.

[mastauser]

I just came back from the beach where I met a girl, we lied on a towel together and touched each other a lot (30 minuts after meeting). Aftee a while I went surfing and wanted to kiss her lips but she resisted. Maybe because of her culture (German) they don't do that in public that much.
Did I fuck up now? Can't wait to see her again tonight at the beach and apply some new tactics (almost kissing , keep flirting until she cant resist anymore).

Any tips for tonight?

[Checkmat]

Eel's right. The earlier you can break the touch barrier, incidentally, the better. Having a 30+ minute conversation with a girl with ZERO physical contact whatsoever, will make that first physical contact that much more awkward/weird for both of you. You want to make touching her and her touching you to be as normal as possible. You're just a touchy feely guy who touches everyone.

I just do what Roosh says in Bang for touching.

[commiejoe]

Don't wait for anything.
Be forward. Be powerful.
You want to touch her arm? Do it.
Climb that escalation ladder like the man you are.
You don't wait for shit.