[betterthanyou]

I went 1/50. I personally don't know anybody who has to work this hard for pussy. Maybe it's me or maybe they are lying. Either way I have a question: for those of you in college/use to be (I am) do you just say "fuck it" to your reputation? Ex: approaching 2+ chicks in class knowing the other girls will know about your rejections, gossip, etc...I just don't want it to fuck up potential leads I haven't met yet b/c I have a "reputation" as a dude/loser? who hits on all the hot chicks. Maybe I am being too critical here but it is definitely on my mind a lot !!!!

1. Tyler - got number in dorm. She ignored my texts
2. Zeeka - got number in dorm. She curved me
3. Iyisha - got number in dorm. Said she had a man.
4. Stacey - first time bringing girl back from party. should have fucked but my dick went soft (porn/drunk/adderall/weed)
5. Manuela - texted her hey sexy. She ignored my text
6. Danny - black chick in my class, ignored my text.
7. Corrine - said she was talking to someone
8. Vicky - didnt get to finish, other girl got on
9. Jalisa - got number in mall. She ignored my texts
10. Shelby - said she didn't want to talk later
11. Stephanie - says she doesn't give her number out
12. Sali - married
13. Shirley - walked away immediately
14. Wouldn't tell me her name - walked away immediately
15. Mary - should have pushed till rejection
16. Kimba - no interest
17. Megan - no interest
18. Some black bitch - wouldn't let me kiss
19. Some black bitch - wouldn't let me kiss said she had a boyfriend
20. White girl - wouldn't tell me her name
21. Spanish chick - said she had a boyfriend
22. Lashea - got her number
23. Naya - curve god
24. Paula - took my number instead of me taking hers. Curve god.
25. Afia - got number
26. Esohe - got number
27. White girl doesn't give her number out
28. Jessica - boyfriend
29. Jessica - got her number in talbot
30. Victoria - fucked her in my car. She forgot her keys.
31. Amanda - got her number in Nb
32. Isabelle - got mimber in Nb
33. Jessica H - got number in Nb
34. White girl - called me sexy beast and ran away but I chased her and got #
35. Latoya - got number (seton hall)
36. Denise - got number
37. Samantha - got number in mall
38. Dominique - bagged got her in the room, was too pussy to make out
39. Xhensila - bagged she has a boyfriend
40. Bimpe - bagged in elevator. She curved me.
41. Jai - got her number she curved..you should be more direct
42. Alexis - bagged in mall..she's really hot. Paid $30 date. No kiss. Cut off
43. Leanne - said she had a man
44. Friend of blonde - left while I was talking to go outside
45. Christin - ordered he drink
And left
46. Krystal - told me she wasn't interested
47. Kaitlin - said she cant talk to me cuz I'm a paitent
48. Michelle - she had a man
49. Illyssa - curved me
50. Carla - made out.she didnt let me fuck.curved me

Also the iPhone notepad is where it's at for writing this shit down. I can take an L and write the note down while it looks like I'm sending a quick text haha

[commiejoe]

How are you approaching exactly?
Did you note what you did for each approach? If you did, please post so we can nail down what you are actually doing.
What are you texting?

Good you are grinding numbers though.

quick edit; need more details to help your questions.

[betterthanyou]

(01-16-2014 10:52 PM)commiejoe Wrote:  

How are you approaching exactly?
Did you note what you did for each approach? If you did, please post so we can nail down what you are actually doing.
What are you texting?

Good you are grinding numbers though.

quick edit; need more details to help your questions.

Its different because some are day/some night and I think I suck at day game. Its mostly direct though. The only make outs I had were at parties/bars/clubs. If I cant make out with her in 10 min im ghost. I could elaborate more for each but I usually only take a quick note when I get rejected

[ChocolateCockOfZeus]

Sweet Jesus. It's cool to track your progress and all, but having a list like this can't be good for you. I usually forget about my rejections, because they don't matter. I imagine writing them down like this where I'd be reminded of them every time I look into my notes would be a drag. More of a drag than a tool for motivation. This is probably why it's on your mind a lot; you have all this shit typed in your phone.

If you're not approaching just for the sake of approaching, what they say doesn't matter. Building a reputation as the guy who hits on all the girls makes you just that: the guy who hits on all the girls. Building a reputation as a social guy who's confident in letting girls know when he's attracted to them, is slightly different. Don't just approach every hot girl because she's there. Approach her because you want to talk to her. If she's anti-social, that's her problem. When you move on to the next girl and socialize you're just trying to get the most out of your college experience, as are the girls worth socializing with. Those girls know what's up. Let the anti-social ones sit in their dorms and watch Hunger Games on their MacBooks.

[WestIndianArchie]

(01-16-2014 11:02 PM)betterthanyou Wrote:  

If I cant make out with her in 10 min im ghost.

So 50 direct approaches, most of them lasting less than 10 minutes.
In the closed environment of a college no less.
Some makeouts, 1 lay.

With these facts in evidence do my esteemed colleagues have a game diagnosis?

WIA

[Onto]

(01-16-2014 10:39 PM)betterthanyou Wrote:  

I just don't want it to fuck up potential leads I haven't met yet b/c I have a "reputation" as a dude/loser? who hits on all the hot chicks.

It's a loser who hits on fat/ugly chicks.

if you're in a museum and you see a beautiful work of art don't you stop and engage it? If you really love it, don't you think about how great it would be hanging on your wall in your apt? There have been times I've thought seriously about breaking into museums that have something I want.

You should never feel shame for being a "man".

[JohnKreese]

I'm interested in where you're at. Seton Hall, NJ? I've never seen such a unique collection of female names.

[Beginner]

your results arent even that bad for cold approaching. you said you missed a few close ones, if you tighten your game you could be 3 bangs for 50 approaches. believe it or not thats a high percentage

[betterthanyou]

(01-16-2014 11:40 PM)JohnKreese Wrote:  

I'm interested in where you're at. Seton Hall, NJ? I've never seen such a unique collection of female names.

I dont go to school there but there are some good parties a few times a semester..I party at dif places Seton Hall, Montclair, Rutgers, Manhattan

(01-16-2014 11:21 PM)ChocolateCockOfZeus Wrote:  

Sweet Jesus. It's cool to track your progress and all, but having a list like this can't be good for you. I usually forget about my rejections, because they don't matter. I imagine writing them down like this where I'd be reminded of them every time I look into my notes would be a drag. More of a drag than a tool for motivation. This is probably why it's on your mind a lot; you have all this shit typed in your phone.

If you're not approaching just for the sake of approaching, what they say doesn't matter. Building a reputation as the guy who hits on all the girls makes you just that: the guy who hits on all the girls. Building a reputation as a social guy who's confident in letting girls know when he's attracted to them, is slightly different. Don't just approach every hot girl because she's there. Approach her because you want to talk to her. If she's anti-social, that's her problem. When you move on to the next girl and socialize you're just trying to get the most out of your college experience, as are the girls worth socializing with. Those girls know what's up. Let the anti-social ones sit in their dorms and watch Hunger Games on their MacBooks.

Youu are right...b/c none of my friends write this shit down and they get laid alot more with less effort. To be honest most of my friends that killed it sophmore/jr year don't even talk to me anymore. My last suitemate had a different girl in his room everyday for the first week of school (6 girls) and I could never get him to talk about how he did it.

(01-16-2014 11:22 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(01-16-2014 11:02 PM)betterthanyou Wrote:  

If I cant make out with her in 10 min im ghost.

So 50 direct approaches, most of them lasting less than 10 minutes.
In the closed environment of a college no less.
Some makeouts, 1 lay.

With these facts in evidence do my esteemed colleagues have a game diagnosis?

WIA

Many of the girls dont go to Rutgers

[OMYG]

Since I'm in college too I can relate and I have thought about my reputation and such things as well.
I came to a conclusion that I should care about my reputation. Why? Well because college is a social setting and it's great for networking, partying etc. They also say the friends you make in college are friends that last a lifetime ( I wouldn't know). Therefore I figured I would limit my approaches and instead of "shotgun game" which is sporadically approaching any attractive girl I try to apply "sniper game" which means I only approach or go for the girls that give me clear signs that she is interested in me.

This is my recommendation and what I do in my college campus, notice my campus is a university of 20,000+ I would figure jc or community colleges are different.

I try to get 1 phone number per day, sometimes I do and sometimes I don't but I always push for it. Second of all in the classroom i try not to really get at girls or game them but I spend my time in class trying to meet people and gaining social proof or trying to be the cool guy that everyone knows. The fact that your buddies are slaying more girls should not concern you but i do think that maybe you should cool it down a little and try a bit more natural approach rather than having detailed stats and stuff. That's just me though.
I believe if you keep approaching at the rate your are doing and don't succeed then maybe you might start approaching the same girls again or maybe some girls know each other and they will start labeling you as the creepy guy. I say that because I can't remember every girl I approach.

Either way goodluck and keep grinding, if your new in the game then 1/50 is not that bad i had to do way more than that when i begun just to get a date. I'm a year in the game but my learning curve has been crazy.

Godspeed!

[Felix88]

After gaming for a while I stopped giving a shit about things like reputations and other people's opinion about me, people think what people think. Even if they label you creepy, so what?

Truth is, when people see you talking to a girl, people will just assume you're know each others. I approach girls in the same bookstore and train everyday with shitload people around listen to my game and people still don't know who I am and don't care, it's all in your head.

[eradicator]

(01-16-2014 11:02 PM)betterthanyou Wrote:  

Its mostly direct though. The only make outs I had were at parties/bars/clubs. If I cant make out with her in 10 min im ghost. I could elaborate more for each but I usually only take a quick note when I get rejected

yikes!

a lot of the bangs i had in college were just talking to chicks at parties, at some point they said, "i'm leaving, wanna walk me home?" I ended up making out and/or banging. If I had a ten minute rule I probably would not have had hardly any lays from college parties.

maybe things have changed now, but i doubt it. You are in college? spend some time developing your inner game, use your school's gym, but I cannot stress enough the importance of taking some sort of gym class to learn how to lift properly. i think more than 50% of the guys in my college gym were doing more damage than good.

[Deluge]

1/50 isn't an approach to bang ratio to be ashamed of at all. Most guys who are starting out have to open 100+ girls before they get laid off cold approach, especially if they don't have looks.

I'd highly recommend watching out for your reputation in college as well. If girls find out about your conquests through the grapevine it'll raise your value for sure, but once enough failed attempts at seduction end up in you getting called a "creep" your reputation will be ruined. A know a couple guys who've even earned the nickname "rapey" on campus for this, but they're all socially un-calibrated awkward guys who don't know about "game". None of this matters outside of college though unless you're in a small town.

Also, why would you bother keeping track of all of these girls names, especially the ones you didn't close?

(01-16-2014 11:02 PM)betterthanyou Wrote:  

Its mostly direct though. The only make outs I had were at parties/bars/clubs. If I cant make out with her in 10 min im ghost. I could elaborate more for each but I usually only take a quick note when I get rejected

That's certainly costing you lays. Most of the time I go for the makeout the 1st attempt will be rejected even if the girl is really into me. I actually assume the first try will be rejected. If she doesn't kiss you by the 3rd time then number close and leave, maybe reapproach later on in the party if she's getting drunker and partying harder. Don't waste your time on girls who aren't into you for sure, but a 10 minute rule is stupid. Sometimes you just need to stick it out (or leave then reapproach) with a girl till the end of the night and she'll be DTF.

[betterthanyou]

Couldn't figure out the quote feature on the mobile.

Omyg - I had a feeling rep was important

Felix - I am like this when I go out but not during the day and def not at school

Master thespian - I train 6 days a week..deadlifts/pullups/dips/sprints

P dog - I know writing them all down is wierd but it helps keep up progress/get closer to the goal. I will stop when I feel I can get laid consistently

[Days of Broken Arrows]

So this is a followup to your previous "100 Approaches" thread from Nov., then? Seems you struck out pretty much every time then, too. Here's the link if anyone wants to see it.

My feeling is:

1). This is trolling, to make members and onlookers feel as if game doesn't work. Or...

2). You're approaching just to approach and not really engaging these women. Or...

3). You're in drastic need of *some* change, be it your method, your voice, your demeanor, your tone, or your vibe in general.

Look, I went to college too. I was VERY short, had a crappy major, no car, and a chronic illness that required daily meds and kept me out of a lot of social activities. Yet I got with a girl at orientation, then one in the first week, and all the time I had a g/f back home.

You've written your a 6'4" black guy who is ripped. So was my suitemate in my first dorm -- and the flow of poon to his room was so great that I had to become his unofficial messenger/traffic director, keeping certain girls at bay when he was with others (none of whom believed the lies I fed them, but they came back to him anyway!).

This isn't that hard. But with 150 approaches total and no luck, the picture you're painting is grimmer, I think, than reality for most guys. If you're for real, I wish you luck and STRONGLY suggest you take a daygaming course in how to do this. Most of us would hit paydirt at this point, if only by accident.

[betterthanyou]

Thanks for being honest.
Not sure what hit pay dirt means.
And where do I take this course?

[Sargon of Akkad]

I've hit worse rejection streaks than this.

Just keep going. It works out eventually as long as you learn from your mistakes.

[dads]

(01-17-2014 11:16 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

So this is a followup to your previous "100 Approaches" thread from Nov., then? Seems you struck out pretty much every time then, too. Here's the link if anyone wants to see it.

My feeling is:

1). This is trolling, to make members and onlookers feel as if game doesn't work. Or...

2). You're approaching just to approach and not really engaging these women. Or...

3). You're in drastic need of *some* change, be it your method, your voice, your demeanor, your tone, or your vibe in general.

Look, I went to college too. I was VERY short, had a crappy major, no car, and a chronic illness that required daily meds and kept me out of a lot of social activities. Yet I got with a girl at orientation, then one in the first week, and all the time I had a g/f back home.

You've written your a 6'4" black guy who is ripped. So was my suitemate in my first dorm -- and the flow of poon to his room was so great that I had to become his unofficial messenger/traffic director, keeping certain girls at bay when he was with others (none of whom believed the lies I fed them, but they came back to him anyway!).

This isn't that hard. But with 150 approaches total and no luck, the picture you're painting is grimmer, I think, than reality for most guys. If you're for real, I wish you luck and STRONGLY suggest you take a daygaming course in how to do this. Most of us would hit paydirt at this point, if only by accident.

1 for 150 in (what I'm assuming is) the New Jersey area as a "6'4" ripped black guy"? He's either lying or he has Aspergers.

[w00t]

(01-17-2014 11:51 AM)Sargon of Akkad Wrote:  

I've hit worse rejection streaks than this.

Just keep going. It works out eventually as long as you learn from your mistakes.

Yup same here.

[Giovonny]

(01-16-2014 10:39 PM)betterthanyou Wrote:  

I went 1/50. I personally don't know anybody who has to work this hard for pussy.

Shit, thats nothing..

I used to go 1/50 every month. I even had some 1/75 months. And, maybe, even a 1/100 month.

Now, its down to 1/25 or so.

With practice, your numbers will improve.

(01-16-2014 10:39 PM)betterthanyou Wrote:  

do you just say "fuck it" to your reputation?

No, I protect my reputation because a bad reputation leads to less p*ssy, in a college setting.

[WestCoast]

This is newbie thread still.

Why are you counting your "percentage hit rate" who cares man. If you fucked a chick you want, 50 approaches is like a week, soo you can bang 52 girls a year if you want. I see no reason to complain.

Percentage close rate is the stupidest measure of game there is. How hot is she, what else have you accomplished during the day, what time of the year was it etc.

Just approach, bang a chick move on or keep her whatever. If you get rejected you shouldn't give 2 shits.

I have literally gotten head turned (last month or so) and I burst out laughing sometimes. Any chick dumb enough not to go out on a date with me is ruining her own life. Her loss.

If you are dressed like a million bucks, in shape, well groomed, approach her in a way that is not startling or weird... Then she can enjoy her life alone in the future.

Simply take 30 seconds max to determine if you made any game mistakes then chalk it up to the game and move on.

---

In real life it's not like you go from 1% to 5% close to 62.726381% over time.

It's more like this.

Streak of 10 in a row.

Dead week or even MONTH because you got other shit to do.

Come back rusty 1/100

Heater again.

Money opportunity pops up your harem goes to zero and you cut off everyone.

Back rusty again 1/100

Heater
Heater

Random failure 2 weeks, harem collapse...

Another important life event sidelines you for 3 weeks...

Etc. I can't imagine ever logging bangs or approaches. Not worth the time. Not gonna waste my time remembering people who make bad life decisions. that's how you should feel. She's too stupid to realize who she is talking to then she is going to be too big of a headache anyway.

Hell your user name should be reality, if you care about her opinion you've already lost.

[Giovonny]

(01-17-2014 01:17 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Any chick dumb enough not to go out on a date with me is ruining her own life. Her loss.

This is the correct mindset.

(01-17-2014 01:17 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Simply take 30 seconds max to determine if you made any game mistakes then chalk it up to the game

For veterans, yes.

However, for newbies, I recommend that they take 45-60 seconds to reflect on their approach.

Lol

[Mekorig]

OP, i presume you are from the USA. As a foreign english speaker, what means "curved" and "bagged"? ("rejected" the first? "fucked" the second?)

[WestIndianArchie]

You're not telling us the whole story

[betterthanyou]

(01-17-2014 01:52 PM)Mekorig Wrote:  

OP, i presume you are from the USA. As a foreign english speaker, what means "curved" and "bagged"? ("rejected" the first? "fucked" the second?)

My bad - "curved" is lingo for ignored and "bagged" means I got her number

(01-17-2014 02:11 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

You're not telling us the whole story

Not sure what you mean..do you want to know something specific?

Also thanks Giovanny and Westcoast. I'm going out later and ditching the notes