[draguer]

Curious as to your thoughts on this,

Since internalizing red pill and game mindsets (while I'm still always learning) I have noticed that when I meet guys with similar attitudes I have quickly created strong friendships and had much better interactions than I might have previously. This also applies to blue pill men who if you hold frame and lead by example with generally give you respect. These are general musings but I think there is something in this.

I am 22 and on four separate occasions in the last few weeks have been told by people in the 30-40 range how mature I am for my age and how they're impressed by how I carry myself. I have always done quite well with girls but relied too much on looks and not pushed myself for the ones I wanted the most, this has changed. I think a big part of this has come from immersing myself in the manosphere content and also the contributions of all of you on here. I was a lurker for a while but have recently started posting. So thanks guys.

[Maciano]

That's great. It took me 'till my late 20s, before I got all the threads together.

I do have to say that redpill makes some older friendships quite hard. It's just annoying to see once promising buddies of you marrying way below their potential. The redpill also made me lose interest in some people that are so deep bluepill programmed that it's just a waste of time to even start helping them. Where to begin? They've missed the boat.

Your focus is also good. The best way to go through life IMO is to think: how do I act in this world/context/situation? You have to believe me that most guys think very differently, they have all sorts of high ideals on how to make everything around them better.

[Ziltoid]

In close to 3 years since I took the red pill, I've yet to meet anyone truly red pill in person. Closest would be a couple naturally very alpha dudes, who I guess I did find myself having rapport with, maybe just a factor of their charisma more than anything else. But so far even they have a lot of blue pill mentality under the surface.

If anything, I would say that the red pill has drastically decreased my ability and desire to befriend most of the guys I meet. What good does it do to hang around with simps? It kinda sucks... Not to get all emo and shit here, but it is often downright depressing and isolating knowing that prettymuch everyone around you.... friends, family, coworkers, strangers... see the world so differently from you that they couldn't even understand your outlook and tribulations even if you tried hard to explain them, let alone empathize with you.

[draguer]

I agree with the point about old friends. Spending too much time reading manosphere related content, which generally advocates a no bullshit, self-responsibility approach to improving your personal situation in all areas of your life can make you forget the victim excuse-filled mentality that many people go through life with. My tolerance for victimhood and lack of ambition in old friends has gone way down and I am letting people go who detract value from my life and bring negativity.

It's important though that you don't allow being red pill to cause you too much isolation. I don't see much benefit in that. You have to take people as they are and simply not invest too much in them if their view is so foreign to yours.

Ziltoid, it might be good for you to travel. If you go to some adventorous, out of the way places they really attract some quality people. For some time I felt similar to you but travelling really opened my mind and restored my faith in people.

[Truth Teller]

(01-16-2014 03:11 PM)draguer Wrote:  

Curious as to your thoughts on this,

Since internalizing red pill and game mindsets (while I'm still always learning) I have noticed that when I meet guys with similar attitudes I have quickly created strong friendships and had much better interactions than I might have previously. This also applies to blue pill men who if you hold frame and lead by example with generally give you respect. These are general musings but I think there is something in this.

I am 22 and on four separate occasions in the last few weeks have been told by people in the 30-40 range how mature I am for my age and how they're impressed by how I carry myself. I have always done quite well with girls but relied too much on looks and not pushed myself for the ones I wanted the most, this has changed. I think a big part of this has come from immersing myself in the manosphere content and also the contributions of all of you on here. I was a lurker for a while but have recently started posting. So thanks guys.

Totally agree, I'm 18 and have had the same things happen to me. When I run into other alphas, I tend to end up creating very strong friendships with them. With more beta guys, I'm looked upon as a leader and someone they want to follow. One of the two omega guys hates me because I can do things he can't dream of (like not having to go on dates with women or be manipulatively nice). The other omega is an omega because of his complete lack of social intelligence (I think he has Asperger Syndrome).

The interesting thing about all of this is that I've managed to get one or two of them into game and I've introduced one or two to the red pill. The sad thing about game is that you realize how much time you wasted when you had one-itis.

[draguer]

If you continue on this path you'll be firing on all cylinders when you hit your 20s. Don't worry about wasted time with oneities, most guys are a lot older than 18 before they realize how that can stifle your potential (if they ever do).