[Rush87]

Booking a trip for around december. With the threat of a potential Clinton government looming, the place could be levelled before I get a chance to see it...

[greekgod]

(03-22-2016 09:40 AM)IronShark Wrote:  

Excellent datasheet. I am an Iranian and I would say your report is very honest and true. But I have to admit your friend was a bit unlucky on the booze side. I've been arrested a couple a times and a £3 to £5 bribe will chuck the police away.

I'm going back to Iran myself after 10 years on May / June 2016 and will try to update the datasheet.

Cheers

Please flag this when you do.

A guy who is like a 2nd father to me is Iranian and came to the states right before the 1980 war. Everything I've read about Iran and Persian culture is amazing. I really wish our countries had a better relationship.

Hope your move has gone well.

[Alb92]

Chaos you definitely got some of the most badass datasheets on the forum. Having a persian friend and reading about your adventure there makes me wanna visit Iran.

[aguasin]

Any ideas on getting into Iran without getting a stamp on your passport. (important of you are from a visa waiver country) I thought Armenia and then bus in might be an option.

[Road_Less_Taken]

How expensive is Iran nowadays?

[Strelka]

@aguasin Which passport would you be using to enter Iran?

[StackGsMan]

(10-26-2016 03:21 PM)Road_Less_Taken Wrote:  

How expensive is Iran nowadays?

One thousand U.S. dollars is about 3.5 million Tomans. The average rent in middle class Tehran apartments that are 100 square meters is around 1-1.5 million a month. A hookah can cost as little as .30 dollars in the smaller towns to around $15 at high end Tehran hookah joints. Food will probably come out to 5-10 dollars a day to eat pretty well in Tehran.

If you have more specific questions just ask and I'll be happy to answer. I was last there 4 years ago, but nearly all of my family lives there so I always know about what goes on.

[StackGsMan]

(01-13-2014 10:05 AM)Chaos Wrote:  

I noticed that there isn't too much info about Iran in this forum so I thought I could contribute with my experiences even though my trip took place in September 2012.

Prepare for a pretty long post.

Background.
After been reading so much bad and negative stuff about Iran in Western media. I decided to go and look myself how Iran and Persian people really are. I've always been interested about getting under the skin in different cultures so I figured Iran was a interesting place to check out. I had no idea what would be waiting for me

Visas.
Very easy for me. I just printed out the visa application and filled it in and gave it to a friend in Helsinki who took it to the Iranian embassy. Four days later it was ready for a cost of 45€.

Getting in.
Depends where you are coming from. The easy way is flying in from Moscow or Istanbul. But maybe the most popular way for travellers is to take a bus from somewhere in Turkey. Buses departs daily all the way from Istanbul to Tabriz in Western Iran. It takes about 25 hours and costs about 50-60€.

However, MY way to enter was a little bit more unique since I took a bus from Erbil in Iraq.
It was a lot of hassle and nobody spoke English and I didn't even know if I was on the right bus before we came to the border. The border itself was in the middle of the desert containing of just a few steel barracks and high steel fences. The immigration process was chaotic but quite straight forward. I had to wait almost three hours at the border before the Iranian border guards had checked every inch of the bus. There were so many vehicles coming and going so I needed to stay focused all the time so I didn't miss my bus.
Well, after a lot of waiting I finally got my Iranian stamp and I had entered Iran.
Woo-fucking hoo.
And yes, they didn't even check my bags which annoyed me a lot. I threw away 2 litres of strong booze on the Iraqi side in fear of Iranian border guards would find it.
Damn.

Well, after the border the trip continued to some village not far away.There they had me to get out of the bus with my bags and I didn't know what the fuck was going on, after some body language sessions they explained that a taxi will take me to the city called Umria. The taxi driver gave me one of the scariest rides in my life.
The driving culture in Iran is by far the worst I've seen in any countries. Such things as overtaking when driving uphill is standard.

Anyway. At the bus station in Umria I had some problems to change money into Iranian rials and even more problems to find a bus to Tabriz.
After all the hassle I got on the bus to Tabriz. I got a lot of attention there, Iranian girls where giggling and everybody was giving me smiles and high fives.
At midnight I finally arrived to Tabriz where my CS host where waiting for me.
I'm not usually a big fan of CS but in countries like Iran it's very convenient to begin your trip with.

Money. No ATM's are working for international bankcards due to the economic sanctions. You need to bring cash and remember to ONLY exchange your money with black market guys. If you go to a bank you will get 50% less for your dollars or euros. However these black market guys never tried to rip me off. Instead they almost competed with each other to buy my euros since the rial was very unstable at the moment.

Costs.
In September 2012 the rial was collapsing. Everything was ridiculously cheap.
Black market exchangers were fighting to but my euros.
Example

Hotel for 15€
Tasty meal for 1€
Pack of smokes 0,50€
Transportation so cheap so it doesn't even count.

But, I admit I'm no expert in this category since people were offering me places to stay and offered me food everywhere. I think I hardly spent 200€ during my month in Iran.


Transportation.
I only used buses and taxis. VIP buses in Iran is of high quality, the country that can maybe compete in comfort is Turkey. The buses are very cheap and comfortable, it's almost like flying business class. They have a waitress who's serving you cold drinks and snacks. I recall I payed 3-5€ for a 8-10 hour bustrip.

In cities shared black taxis are the way to go, for those who are familiar how people do in Russia it's almost the same thing in Iran. You just go to the side of the street and raise your hand and somebody will pull over. These shared taxis are very cheap but it's difficult to use them if you don't speak Farsi or have a Iranian friend with you. Normal taxis are also available. They are also cheap and drivers never tried to rip me off. Communication is the only problem.

People.
Hands down the most friendliest and most hospital people I've ever met in the 53 countries I've been in. The myth and stereotype about fanatic Muslims couldn't be more far from the truth. In fact I didn't meet really anyone who was religious.
They are just regular johns like in any other country.
Iranian people loves Americans and Europeans, they regard themselves also as a Western country and not as an Middle Eastern. They just have fucked up a Islamic regime controlling their country. Iranians really dislike Arabs. And they are looking down on Afghan's and Pakistanis. I didn't hear anyone saying anything bad about Israel or Jews, but many people are very afraid that Israel will attack them.

The English level is sparingly good since people are highly educated, especially girls. I was stopped all the time by random people who wanted to speak English and they are really good. Especially the youth. They are clever people and they are well aware about what's happening in the world even if the government is trying their best to keep them isolated.

Another memorable thing is that Couchsurfing is very popular in Iran, and it's strange that the website is not even blocked because hosting foreigners is illegal.
First I was intending to use CS but later I discovered it's not even necessary. You just have to shop in a city with your bag and people will come to you and invite you to be their guest or for dinner. This will definitely happen. Girls will also invite you, which was an surprise to me.

Girls.
Persian women has a reputation to be very pretty. It's indeed true but I think that's exaggerated. Plastic surgeries are cheap and therefore also very common. Especially nose surgeries are popular since the face is the only visible part of their body so that's why all focus is put on the face.
Iranian girls are also one of the biggest consumers of cosmetics in the world. For my taste they are using it way too much.

Their attitude is quite exotic and flirty, as a tall white guy I was approached all the time. They are very interested of speaking with foreigners and apparently also to tease them.
A few times when I was sitting in park and chatting with some girl the police officers with green uniforms showed up. These are the guys who are watching the women that they dress right and etc.
They usually call the girl over and ask who you are, and what's your relationship, if you have touched each other and if her parents are aware of this meeting and so on.

Another time a girl invited me to her place and I was caught by surprise and asked her if she's living alone.

- No, I'm living with my father.
- But will he think it's OK if I'm coming over to your place?
- Yeah, no problem. He'll be glad to meet you.

And true it was, the father met me and he treated me very respectfully.
However, then we went inside her room, which was right next to the living room.
Immediately she threw away her scarf, her shirt, until she was dressed in a very tight tank top and ultra short jeans shorts. Her boobs was almost exp loading out of that top and I got a rock hard boner. However. Nothing happened, this was just one big Iranian teasing show from the beginning to the end. She knew I was horny and she knew we couldn't do anything with her father next to us and she played me accordingly, I tried to get in her pants with every move but her resistance was too strong. We smoked some opium and then I went out with a pair of aching blue balls.
I didn't get my Iranian flag, but I got the Japanese flag as a surprise bonus.

Alcohol
Everything is illegal, consuming, selling,bars etc. But there are some ways to find booze for thirsty men,
You need to go to a bazaar or a shop and find where the Jewish businessmen are. They usually sits on some moonshine that they happily sell to foreigners.
It's also possible to ask some youngsters and they maybe can get you some homemade wine, but that usually taste like shit but it will get you drunk.
If you're lucky you can also find some contraband whisky that's smuggled in from Dubai, but that's expensive as hell.

The alcohol laws are strict to say the least.
One of my friends in Tehran had a bottle of Johnny Walker in his bag when the police stopped him. They took him to jail, had him sit for 5 days and on the last day they called over his mother and all his sisters to watch him being whipped by two officers.

Drugs.
This surprise me a lot. Since alcohol use is banned many people use other drugs.
People smoke opium like chimneys. A lot of people are addicted to opium in Iran.
My first host in Iran was quite a memorable experience.

First of all it was a girl. We met in the street and we went to her flat. She took off her scarf and we sat down in the sofa and chitchatted and then she asked.
- Do you smoke?
- You mean cigarettes?
- Well yeah, but do you smoke something else?
- Weed?
- hmf. Have you ever tried opium?
- No.
- Wanna try?
- Yeah, why not?

Then some of her friends came over and we sat down in the kitchen and smoking opium and drinking tea for about 5-6 House and we had a good time.
Before finishing the night she asked: So do you think we are terrorists?
Great first day in Iran.

However, weed and opium is widely available.
90 % of the times I got invited to a house we smoked opium.
Good I didn't spend more than four weeks in Iran because I think was getting addicted of opium.

Food.
Iranian cuisine is tasty. If you're a vegetarian or a vegan you'll get no sympathy in Iran. A lot of kebabs and tasty rice and meat dishes are widely available.
Chicken,beef and camel mostly.
Iranians are crazy about sweets, and it almost fucked my stomach up. They offer sweet cakes, donuts and a stuff to you all the time.
An ice cream or milkshake will cost you maybe 0,30€ from a street vendor.

Nightlife.
There are no clubs or bars in Iran. So the nightlife is limited to two options.
Sitting at cafes and smoking shisha and drinking tea which is a giant sausage fest because there are only guys out. The second option is to get some friends and be invited to a private party in some flat. There everything can happen because people can't let loose outside. Only in cars or in their homes.

Notable things.
- Parks are super clean without any dogshit. Dogs are illegal in Iran.
- Women hang out in groups in public, in other Islamic countries you hardly see any women in the streets.
- Parabol antennas are illegal, if you're looking on rooftops you can see all kinds of creative ways of hiding parabols.
- Women are more educated than men.
- Men need to serve 24 months in the army before to be able to apply for a passport.
- Many people are not even Muslims.
- Turkish is as widely spoken as Farsi but Farsi is the only official language.
- You can't see any American, European or Japanese or Korean products because of the economic sanctions. If you still see something, it's contraband from Dubai.
- 99% of the cars are old Peugeot's.
- Guys are not allowed to wear shorts in public.


Conclusion.
All in all I had a great time in Iran. I didn't get laid but chasing pussy wasn't the main reason for me going to Iran. I learned a lot of stuff and met some cool people which I'm having contact with still today. It definitely enriched my travels and my life.

Places I visited. I try to keep it short, ask me if you want more detailed or specific information about these places.

Tabriz. In the Northeast Iran, pretty nice city but nothing really special. People who live in Tabriz are famous for their whiter skin and they are regarded as the most beautiful people in Iran.

Tehran.
A gigantic monster hellhole of concrete. What I remember most of Tehran is there is almost nothing green there, only concrete and asphalt. The traffic is the most dangerous and relentless I've ever seen. I can assure you it's worse than India and Pakistan. The drivers don't respect green light or pedestrians and they drive fast as fuck. Crossing a roads in Tehran is like playing Russian roulette.
Iran has 25000 death victims from traffic every year.

Isfahan.
This is a cool city with a lot of very oldschool buildings and stuff to check out. If you're into old buildings this city's gigantic mosques will blow you away.

Shiraz.
This is perhaps the coolest one in Iran. Nice and pretty city with a lot of parks and oldschool buildings. Has maybe the most things to see. From this place I also took a daytrip to the famous Persepolis, massive but stillI found it disappointing.

Yazd.
This was in the middle of the desert, hot as hell. Here CS'd for free at a nice hotel.
But boring place, the mosques really started to make me tired. But I enjoyed a lot of camel steak here. Delicious.

Kerman.
I can't recommend coming to Kerman, I went here to check out the Dah e Lut desert. One of the hottest places on earth. The city itself is just plain boring. A lot of old buildings and monuments but at this point I couldn't care less.

Zahedan.
Last stop before crossing the border to Pakistan.
Here is actually foreigners not allowed on the street because somebody claim it's too dangerous. However I bumped into some locals who drove me around and showed the city and took me to some shisha places where we could chill out in peace.

Any further questions, feel free to ask.

Outside the former American Embassy in Tehran

This is all generally true, with some exceptions. No one eats camel (seriously bro?). I've been around much of Iran and have never even seen a camel. Dogs are not illegal, they are just known as filthy animals and are frowned upon by the religion.

Iranian women and the male/female dynamic is different than anywhere else in the world I've been, but to put it as the OP said, yes they are cock teases. They love to flirt, but a lot of times they are not open to sex. I got my Iranian flag in Iran, and slept with 4 women last time I was there, although it was difficult as fuck.

The best way to get laid in Iran is to know people that are liberal and have a player lifestyle. The easiest and hottest lay I had was through a distant cousin inviting his gf's friend to meet me, and I took it from there. The other three lays were cold approaches and it takes a lot of work.

The second best way to get laid in Iran is to be a foreigner of some kind and to have a good living arrangement. You cannot take a girl that isn't closely related or married to you to your hotel room.

[Mario]

I think some of you guys are romanticizing things too much.

I have really seen any cute woman from Iran and do not forget that nose surgery is quiet big there.

It is mostly the mystery of the country rather than anything else IMO.

[Mario]

(10-26-2016 09:55 PM)StackGsMan Wrote:  

(01-13-2014 10:05 AM)Chaos Wrote:  

I noticed that there isn't too much info about Iran in this forum so I thought I could contribute with my experiences even though my trip took place in September 2012.

Prepare for a pretty long post.

Background.
After been reading so much bad and negative stuff about Iran in Western media. I decided to go and look myself how Iran and Persian people really are. I've always been interested about getting under the skin in different cultures so I figured Iran was a interesting place to check out. I had no idea what would be waiting for me

Visas.
Very easy for me. I just printed out the visa application and filled it in and gave it to a friend in Helsinki who took it to the Iranian embassy. Four days later it was ready for a cost of 45€.

Getting in.
Depends where you are coming from. The easy way is flying in from Moscow or Istanbul. But maybe the most popular way for travellers is to take a bus from somewhere in Turkey. Buses departs daily all the way from Istanbul to Tabriz in Western Iran. It takes about 25 hours and costs about 50-60€.

However, MY way to enter was a little bit more unique since I took a bus from Erbil in Iraq.
It was a lot of hassle and nobody spoke English and I didn't even know if I was on the right bus before we came to the border. The border itself was in the middle of the desert containing of just a few steel barracks and high steel fences. The immigration process was chaotic but quite straight forward. I had to wait almost three hours at the border before the Iranian border guards had checked every inch of the bus. There were so many vehicles coming and going so I needed to stay focused all the time so I didn't miss my bus.
Well, after a lot of waiting I finally got my Iranian stamp and I had entered Iran.
Woo-fucking hoo.
And yes, they didn't even check my bags which annoyed me a lot. I threw away 2 litres of strong booze on the Iraqi side in fear of Iranian border guards would find it.
Damn.

Well, after the border the trip continued to some village not far away.There they had me to get out of the bus with my bags and I didn't know what the fuck was going on, after some body language sessions they explained that a taxi will take me to the city called Umria. The taxi driver gave me one of the scariest rides in my life.
The driving culture in Iran is by far the worst I've seen in any countries. Such things as overtaking when driving uphill is standard.

Anyway. At the bus station in Umria I had some problems to change money into Iranian rials and even more problems to find a bus to Tabriz.
After all the hassle I got on the bus to Tabriz. I got a lot of attention there, Iranian girls where giggling and everybody was giving me smiles and high fives.
At midnight I finally arrived to Tabriz where my CS host where waiting for me.
I'm not usually a big fan of CS but in countries like Iran it's very convenient to begin your trip with.

Money. No ATM's are working for international bankcards due to the economic sanctions. You need to bring cash and remember to ONLY exchange your money with black market guys. If you go to a bank you will get 50% less for your dollars or euros. However these black market guys never tried to rip me off. Instead they almost competed with each other to buy my euros since the rial was very unstable at the moment.

Costs.
In September 2012 the rial was collapsing. Everything was ridiculously cheap.
Black market exchangers were fighting to but my euros.
Example

Hotel for 15€
Tasty meal for 1€
Pack of smokes 0,50€
Transportation so cheap so it doesn't even count.

But, I admit I'm no expert in this category since people were offering me places to stay and offered me food everywhere. I think I hardly spent 200€ during my month in Iran.


Transportation.
I only used buses and taxis. VIP buses in Iran is of high quality, the country that can maybe compete in comfort is Turkey. The buses are very cheap and comfortable, it's almost like flying business class. They have a waitress who's serving you cold drinks and snacks. I recall I payed 3-5€ for a 8-10 hour bustrip.

In cities shared black taxis are the way to go, for those who are familiar how people do in Russia it's almost the same thing in Iran. You just go to the side of the street and raise your hand and somebody will pull over. These shared taxis are very cheap but it's difficult to use them if you don't speak Farsi or have a Iranian friend with you. Normal taxis are also available. They are also cheap and drivers never tried to rip me off. Communication is the only problem.

People.
Hands down the most friendliest and most hospital people I've ever met in the 53 countries I've been in. The myth and stereotype about fanatic Muslims couldn't be more far from the truth. In fact I didn't meet really anyone who was religious.
They are just regular johns like in any other country.
Iranian people loves Americans and Europeans, they regard themselves also as a Western country and not as an Middle Eastern. They just have fucked up a Islamic regime controlling their country. Iranians really dislike Arabs. And they are looking down on Afghan's and Pakistanis. I didn't hear anyone saying anything bad about Israel or Jews, but many people are very afraid that Israel will attack them.

The English level is sparingly good since people are highly educated, especially girls. I was stopped all the time by random people who wanted to speak English and they are really good. Especially the youth. They are clever people and they are well aware about what's happening in the world even if the government is trying their best to keep them isolated.

Another memorable thing is that Couchsurfing is very popular in Iran, and it's strange that the website is not even blocked because hosting foreigners is illegal.
First I was intending to use CS but later I discovered it's not even necessary. You just have to shop in a city with your bag and people will come to you and invite you to be their guest or for dinner. This will definitely happen. Girls will also invite you, which was an surprise to me.

Girls.
Persian women has a reputation to be very pretty. It's indeed true but I think that's exaggerated. Plastic surgeries are cheap and therefore also very common. Especially nose surgeries are popular since the face is the only visible part of their body so that's why all focus is put on the face.
Iranian girls are also one of the biggest consumers of cosmetics in the world. For my taste they are using it way too much.

Their attitude is quite exotic and flirty, as a tall white guy I was approached all the time. They are very interested of speaking with foreigners and apparently also to tease them.
A few times when I was sitting in park and chatting with some girl the police officers with green uniforms showed up. These are the guys who are watching the women that they dress right and etc.
They usually call the girl over and ask who you are, and what's your relationship, if you have touched each other and if her parents are aware of this meeting and so on.

Another time a girl invited me to her place and I was caught by surprise and asked her if she's living alone.

- No, I'm living with my father.
- But will he think it's OK if I'm coming over to your place?
- Yeah, no problem. He'll be glad to meet you.

And true it was, the father met me and he treated me very respectfully.
However, then we went inside her room, which was right next to the living room.
Immediately she threw away her scarf, her shirt, until she was dressed in a very tight tank top and ultra short jeans shorts. Her boobs was almost exp loading out of that top and I got a rock hard boner. However. Nothing happened, this was just one big Iranian teasing show from the beginning to the end. She knew I was horny and she knew we couldn't do anything with her father next to us and she played me accordingly, I tried to get in her pants with every move but her resistance was too strong. We smoked some opium and then I went out with a pair of aching blue balls.
I didn't get my Iranian flag, but I got the Japanese flag as a surprise bonus.

Alcohol
Everything is illegal, consuming, selling,bars etc. But there are some ways to find booze for thirsty men,
You need to go to a bazaar or a shop and find where the Jewish businessmen are. They usually sits on some moonshine that they happily sell to foreigners.
It's also possible to ask some youngsters and they maybe can get you some homemade wine, but that usually taste like shit but it will get you drunk.
If you're lucky you can also find some contraband whisky that's smuggled in from Dubai, but that's expensive as hell.

The alcohol laws are strict to say the least.
One of my friends in Tehran had a bottle of Johnny Walker in his bag when the police stopped him. They took him to jail, had him sit for 5 days and on the last day they called over his mother and all his sisters to watch him being whipped by two officers.

Drugs.
This surprise me a lot. Since alcohol use is banned many people use other drugs.
People smoke opium like chimneys. A lot of people are addicted to opium in Iran.
My first host in Iran was quite a memorable experience.

First of all it was a girl. We met in the street and we went to her flat. She took off her scarf and we sat down in the sofa and chitchatted and then she asked.
- Do you smoke?
- You mean cigarettes?
- Well yeah, but do you smoke something else?
- Weed?
- hmf. Have you ever tried opium?
- No.
- Wanna try?
- Yeah, why not?

Then some of her friends came over and we sat down in the kitchen and smoking opium and drinking tea for about 5-6 House and we had a good time.
Before finishing the night she asked: So do you think we are terrorists?
Great first day in Iran.

However, weed and opium is widely available.
90 % of the times I got invited to a house we smoked opium.
Good I didn't spend more than four weeks in Iran because I think was getting addicted of opium.

Food.
Iranian cuisine is tasty. If you're a vegetarian or a vegan you'll get no sympathy in Iran. A lot of kebabs and tasty rice and meat dishes are widely available.
Chicken,beef and camel mostly.
Iranians are crazy about sweets, and it almost fucked my stomach up. They offer sweet cakes, donuts and a stuff to you all the time.
An ice cream or milkshake will cost you maybe 0,30€ from a street vendor.

Nightlife.
There are no clubs or bars in Iran. So the nightlife is limited to two options.
Sitting at cafes and smoking shisha and drinking tea which is a giant sausage fest because there are only guys out. The second option is to get some friends and be invited to a private party in some flat. There everything can happen because people can't let loose outside. Only in cars or in their homes.

Notable things.
- Parks are super clean without any dogshit. Dogs are illegal in Iran.
- Women hang out in groups in public, in other Islamic countries you hardly see any women in the streets.
- Parabol antennas are illegal, if you're looking on rooftops you can see all kinds of creative ways of hiding parabols.
- Women are more educated than men.
- Men need to serve 24 months in the army before to be able to apply for a passport.
- Many people are not even Muslims.
- Turkish is as widely spoken as Farsi but Farsi is the only official language.
- You can't see any American, European or Japanese or Korean products because of the economic sanctions. If you still see something, it's contraband from Dubai.
- 99% of the cars are old Peugeot's.
- Guys are not allowed to wear shorts in public.


Conclusion.
All in all I had a great time in Iran. I didn't get laid but chasing pussy wasn't the main reason for me going to Iran. I learned a lot of stuff and met some cool people which I'm having contact with still today. It definitely enriched my travels and my life.

Places I visited. I try to keep it short, ask me if you want more detailed or specific information about these places.

Tabriz. In the Northeast Iran, pretty nice city but nothing really special. People who live in Tabriz are famous for their whiter skin and they are regarded as the most beautiful people in Iran.

Tehran.
A gigantic monster hellhole of concrete. What I remember most of Tehran is there is almost nothing green there, only concrete and asphalt. The traffic is the most dangerous and relentless I've ever seen. I can assure you it's worse than India and Pakistan. The drivers don't respect green light or pedestrians and they drive fast as fuck. Crossing a roads in Tehran is like playing Russian roulette.
Iran has 25000 death victims from traffic every year.

Isfahan.
This is a cool city with a lot of very oldschool buildings and stuff to check out. If you're into old buildings this city's gigantic mosques will blow you away.

Shiraz.
This is perhaps the coolest one in Iran. Nice and pretty city with a lot of parks and oldschool buildings. Has maybe the most things to see. From this place I also took a daytrip to the famous Persepolis, massive but stillI found it disappointing.

Yazd.
This was in the middle of the desert, hot as hell. Here CS'd for free at a nice hotel.
But boring place, the mosques really started to make me tired. But I enjoyed a lot of camel steak here. Delicious.

Kerman.
I can't recommend coming to Kerman, I went here to check out the Dah e Lut desert. One of the hottest places on earth. The city itself is just plain boring. A lot of old buildings and monuments but at this point I couldn't care less.

Zahedan.
Last stop before crossing the border to Pakistan.
Here is actually foreigners not allowed on the street because somebody claim it's too dangerous. However I bumped into some locals who drove me around and showed the city and took me to some shisha places where we could chill out in peace.

Any further questions, feel free to ask.

Outside the former American Embassy in Tehran

This is all generally true, with some exceptions. No one eats camel (seriously bro?). I've been around much of Iran and have never even seen a camel. Dogs are not illegal, they are just known as filthy animals and are frowned upon by the religion.

Iranian women and the male/female dynamic is different than anywhere else in the world I've been, but to put it as the OP said, yes they are cock teases. They love to flirt, but a lot of times they are not open to sex. I got my Iranian flag in Iran, and slept with 4 women last time I was there, although it was difficult as fuck.

The best way to get laid in Iran is to know people that are liberal and have a player lifestyle. The easiest and hottest lay I had was through a distant cousin inviting his gf's friend to meet me, and I took it from there. The other three lays were cold approaches and it takes a lot of work.

The second best way to get laid in Iran is to be a foreigner of some kind and to have a good living arrangement. You cannot take a girl that isn't closely related or married to you to your hotel room.

Interesting.

For how long did you stray in Iran considering that you slept with 4 iranian women?

[StackGsMan]

2 months

[Filbert]

(10-27-2016 04:03 PM)Mario Wrote:  

[quote='StackGsMan' pid='1427561' dateline='1477536956']
[quote='Chaos' pid='627642' dateline='1389625525']

- Turkish is as widely spoken as Farsi but Farsi is the only official language.

It must be Azerbaijani, not Turkish, even though they are similar )).
Azerbaijani is spoken in the north of Iran, besides Farsi.

[Akwesi]

(10-28-2016 02:52 AM)Filbert Wrote:  

[quote] (10-27-2016 04:03 PM)Mario Wrote:  

[quote='Chaos' pid='627642' dateline='1389625525']

- Turkish is as widely spoken as Farsi but Farsi is the only official language.

It must be Azerbaijani, not Turkish, even though they are similar )).
Azerbaijani is spoken in the north of Iran, besides Farsi.

Iranians call Azeri/Azerbaijani Turkish.

[naughtynomad]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to contribute here after my trip.

Getting laid and partying there is easier than you think. I didn't spend a single night sober in Iran, and oddly had a ton of girls contact ME online during and before the trip. It was weird... it reminded me of southeast Asia in this regard. Persian girls are really interested in meeting foreigners. We also got approached on the street a couple of times by women.

In general, Iranians are the most hospitable people I've ever encountered.

As for hooking up. It's all about connections and online game. Small house parties are the norm. Most locals have a dealer who will can deliver you anything. Weed is dirt cheap (5 grams for less than 10 Euro) and whiskey ranges from 30-50 EUR depending on the brand. (It's usually cheap generic scotch or Iraqi whiskey.)

One big issue is logistics. AirBNB is banned and private apartment rental seems murky from a legal standpoint. You need a licence, and almost all accomodation has the barrier of a reception.

Luckily, I found other sites for private apartments, such as 9Flats. Here's the info

Guest friendly Accomodation in Iran

Tehran: http://samresidence.com Really nice 2-3 bedroom apartments. No reception. Pretty central location. It's a bit far from northern Tehran where all the parties are, but it's the best option that I could find.

Isfahan: https://www.9flats.com/places/347683-apartment-esfahan Good location, big place, and very reasonable. Walkable to main square. It's a family owned building (they live downstairs), but they let us host a small party (reluctantly, and they also charged us extra in the morning for our guests). Best you are going to get and will do the job.

Shiraz: https://www.9flats.com/places/466321-apartment-shiraz Nice little 1 bed apartment right in the center. Cheap too. There is also another small studio upstairs if you are group. The building is a small private place with nobody here living in it. The couple who are own are cool as fuck too.

Any other questions PM me

[zatara]

Interesting. I'd love to visit Iran but the fact that having an Iranian stamp on your passport makes you ineligible for the US Visa Waiver Program just makes it not practical for me. Having to get proper embassy-interview visas whenever I need to go to the US for work or play would be a killer.

I know you mostly travel to developing countries, so I'm guessing that was less of a factor for you? Do you just not play on visiting the US any time soon?

[naughtynomad]

I already have visas from Syria and Somalia in my passport, I was already ineligible.

[Heart Break Kid]

Yeah, one of my best friends is from Iran and he tells me that while it's largely boring due to all the bans - it isn't Saudi Arabia. There are plenty of social enclaves of people having parties and things like that.

[ThrustMaster]

Just gotta day that Persian poonani is prime - I’ve never been disappointed- even if the Persian American Princesses can be a bit much....

[Dulceácido]

BEST DATASHEET EVER!

[StackGsMan]

(01-18-2018 08:40 AM)naughtynomad Wrote:  

Hey guys,

I just wanted to contribute here after my trip.

Getting laid and partying there is easier than you think. I didn't spend a single night sober in Iran, and oddly had a ton of girls contact ME online during and before the trip. It was weird... it reminded me of southeast Asia in this regard. Persian girls are really interested in meeting foreigners. We also got approached on the street a couple of times by women.

In general, Iranians are the most hospitable people I've ever encountered.

As for hooking up. It's all about connections and online game. Small house parties are the norm. Most locals have a dealer who will can deliver you anything. Weed is dirt cheap (5 grams for less than 10 Euro) and whiskey ranges from 30-50 EUR depending on the brand. (It's usually cheap generic scotch or Iraqi whiskey.)

One big issue is logistics. AirBNB is banned and private apartment rental seems murky from a legal standpoint. You need a licence, and almost all accomodation has the barrier of a reception.

Luckily, I found other sites for private apartments, such as 9Flats. Here's the info

Guest friendly Accomodation in Iran

Tehran: http://samresidence.com Really nice 2-3 bedroom apartments. No reception. Pretty central location. It's a bit far from northern Tehran where all the parties are, but it's the best option that I could find.

Isfahan: https://www.9flats.com/places/347683-apartment-esfahan Good location, big place, and very reasonable. Walkable to main square. It's a family owned building (they live downstairs), but they let us host a small party (reluctantly, and they also charged us extra in the morning for our guests). Best you are going to get and will do the job.

Shiraz: https://www.9flats.com/places/466321-apartment-shiraz Nice little 1 bed apartment right in the center. Cheap too. There is also another small studio upstairs if you are group. The building is a small private place with nobody here living in it. The couple who are own are cool as fuck too.

Any other questions PM me

Post number 36 above should say 3 months, not 2. Forgot entirely about this thread until tonight and realized I mistyped.

Naughty, I really like your site and respect what you do, but your info here seems a tad off/fishy. I'm not saying it is shady or outright false, but you are giving the wrong impression at the least.

Let me begin by saying I in no way, as a Persian myself, give two shits about guys from other races banging Persian girls. I hope my attempt to provide a datasheet on Iranian girls a while back shows that to an extent. My philosophy, and this was born out in my life recently, is if the chick isn't with me it doesn't matter who she is with, but if she is with me I'm in my right to lose my shit if she so much as looks at another guy. I'm not with a Persian girl now, and I've recently had Arab guys make several random calls to my phone from numbers I didn't know shortly after talking to Arab girls relatively politely in public Arab establishments. I also try to date women of all races and feel that I'm lucky to be just as attracted to one race as the other, although I go through phases where I get more pumped about one over the others all the while still being equally attracted. Might not make sense to a lot of guys, let's just say I like how all nationalities and races, and it depends on the individual looks.

All that being said, I don't want this long post to seem like I'm trying to discourage guys from trying to go to Iran to get laid. I hope if they are good guys that they sleep with 50 Persian girls in a month. But since I rely on this site myself for what I hope is accurate information, particularly with regards to travel which can be dangerous for so many reasons, I want to make it clear what I know of Iran (which I adore, no sarcasm).

I am a first generation Iranian-American. I was born here in America obviously, but I only spoke Farsi until 4 years old or so. I'm sure you can guess my English has surpassed my Farsi, but my Farsi is at a level such that I am well into fluency and can naturally and easily hold just about any conversation with anyone unless we get into poetry from 500 years ago or advanced engineering discussions and the like, sadly I'm not a typical Persian engineer . Even then my Farsi is such that I can have the speaker explain very techincal and advanced topics and I will be able to get it.

On top of that all of my family except my parents (in America) and one aunt and uncle on my dads side who have a total of 3 kids between them (in Europe), live in Iran. The majority of my family have lots of kids, so between all of my close relatives I probably have around 100 people that I'm very closely related to. For example my mom is 1 of 10, and my father is 1 of 7. I probably talk to my cousin on my mom's side who is around 40 years old now and only cares about talking to women more than I talk to most friends in America. I've been to Iran three times, twice in my mid 20s. My second trip, which lasted 3 months only because anything over that and I would have to do 2 years military service (even foreign born kids of Iranian parents are considered Iranian by the government there and hold dual citizenship potentially unless their families are political/military "traitors" and wouldn't be allowed i the country) resulted in me getting 4 notches. I probably did 200 cold day approaches, and the first notch was social circle (distant cousin's girlfriend's friend). My mom's side of the family the boys are generally taller than me (I'm a fraction under 6'2'') and basically try to get laid all day and have no employment for the most part (huge unemployment in Iran).

I've also had a very merry time with both full Persian and mixed Persian girls in Texas and Los Angeles. As they say of Dominican women on this forum, when they are in their own country all they want are foreign guys, but when they go abroad soon after all they want is their own.

For that and other reasons I won't detail, I get the Persian girl puzzle, at least from the perspective of a Persian guy (and I'm sure I understand it from the perspective of other races better than most of them unless they've had significant contact with them).

One final thing I will say about my Iran experience before I get to what you wrote is where I have been. Tehran (most parts generally), Karaj (many times, grandpa buried there and old house out there), Shomal (North Iran, tourist region for Iranians along the Caspian), several parts of Western Iran which I won't name for some anonymity (if lurkers see this and know me in some way they can relatively easily guess). I HAVE NOT been to the big tourist cities Isfahan or Shiraz, but basically all of my family has and many have gone to school in those cities (college and up).

Here are my main issues with what you said:


1. My first and relatively most minor issue is the weed comment. First off let me say I don't think guys reading this thread who actually are willing to go to Iran are dreaming of smoking weed in Baluchestan, so apologies if this draws on a bit. As far as drugs go, let's say I have connections that you, Naughty Nomad, will never have in Iran unless you move there and come up in the drug game. Let's just say I know of regions that used to be opium field heavens in the past similar to parts of present day Afghanistan. Let's just say I know of family members that use and possibly sell certain things, like maybe rice and tea. Let's say I may know certain guys that take trips to Afghanistan once a month or so and come back to the region with a car full of Afghanistan's best product, Wrigley's Bubble Gum. Let's just also say that in the over 100 people I could cut my forearm and draw blood from and be a very close DNA match with, a few of them might know a few guys that know a few things. Let's also say I know of some guys that came from overseas and visited certain regions and did drugs with the locals on mall (called Pasaj there) rooftops, in central squares, and in apartments in conservative areas as well as Tehran.


Based on that intel, I have never once been able to find actual weed. All that was available was Hashish. I had never smoked Hashish or even seen it in my life before I went to Iran, but that was relatively easy to find. I heard about a guy that kind of resembled me and spent months asking all over for weed, and the end results was basically one gram of some shit that was basically oregano that was returned and exchanged (thanks to that guy's cousin having a word with the dealer) for hashish and a promise by some villager to that guy I know to take him to a province near Afghanistan where weed is all over but that no one ever followed up on. I asked that guy I know that resembles me what he thought about that promise, and he has come to the conclusion that either that area is crazy dangerous, or else, and most likely, that villager was "clowning" him as my American countrymen would put it.

Did you mean hashish by weed my man? Because they are different (yes, same plant) in how they look and Iranians refer to hash as "Hashish" and weed as "Marijuana". You put Hashish on a key and light it on fire in Iran, roll out the tobacco in a cigarette and toss some away, and then break the hasish into near powder and mix it with the tobacco and get the combo back into the cigarette. Well, at least that's what I've heard, and I've also heard some of the cool guys suck the tobacco/hash combo back into 5 cigarettes at the same time (no sarcasm on the last comment). As far as I remember when my friends put away their bongs in America, they would break the green nugs of "weed" into little pieces and split a swisher open or roll a joint. You'd have better luck I'd imagine in Iran finding a tobacco pipe and using that or making a makeshift pipe out of a soda can than finding blunts or rolling papers.

I seriously am not denying that you were able to get weed and even possibly blunts/papers in Iran because I'm sure those exist, but either the guy I know that resembles me and has all those blood connections totally got "clowned" or else that shit is kind of rare and you had AMAZING connections (maybe you did).


I will say, in your defense, that I know crack and meth are readily available and there is an epidemic of their use, and I've even heard some people are able to get their hands on things like MDMA if they have the right connects. Never actually seen any of those things though, particularly MDMA, which I've only heard stories of in Iran (again, probably exists, but not that common to put it lightly).


About the alcohol comment I 100% agree with you, but I will go one step further from the stories of my buddy that directly resembles me to a T and actually has all of the same identifying characteristics. They do things like deliver alcohol in empty rice bags while riding their $500 motorcycles in conservative areas. That happens. There are even claims that certain military groups control in the inflow of alcohol. To explain the actual reality of alcohol in Iran, just know there are generally two forms:

A. The same shit you get in America or Europe. Sky Vodka, Jack Daniels, random Russian shit. Not every alcohol dealer has everything. I've heard the guy that resembles me say he heard about Jack Daniels but never actually saw one, although he did see other foreign brands of whiskey.

B. Homemade alcohol. Dudes make this shit anywhere they can from apples, grapes, whatever. I know the guy that resembles me that has tons of homemade grape wine in the basement (of the entire apartment building with many units). They basically call homemade alcohol Sharaab (wine there). If it's made from apple, it is called apple wine. I've heard it is particularly strong from the guy I resemble, but from other people I've heard sometimes the shit makes you go blind because they don't make it right (no idea how true this is or if it is a horror story that has spread). Maybe these producers of homemade wine should get together with US inmates and talk about recipes. Oh, and I've never heard any mention of Iraqi anything with regard to alcohol. I'm not denying you came into contact with that, but anytime I've heard of homemade shit or anything other than foreign (meaning for the most part American or European) alcohol the claims are the Armenians that live in Iran and have done so for a LOOONG time make it because they are the Christians. I never heard a single person say that another Muslim country, even Iraq, makes alcohol and it somehow makes it into Iran. Again, not denying the Iraqi whiskey thing, I just haven't heard of it (no sarcasm intended on this point).




2. Many have said online game is the way to go for the most part. I was last in Iran, I think it was 2012, either tinder didn't exist or I didn't know about it. I certainly used no online game. I have set my location on tinder plus to various parts of Tehran and Karaj since then with a huge radius turned on. I've also done the same in the other regions you and I mentioned combined. This is as recent as two months ago. Tehran and to a much lesser extent Karaj blow the other regions out of the water in terms of sheer numbers. That being said I haven't been able to swipe for more than 10 or so minutes continuously without running through every single girl in Tehran and my tinder not being able to find girls to swipe on. Tehran for the most part (I could just not know about some random poosy paradise in the Zagros mountains) is THE most sexually liberated and "open minded" city or area in the entirety of the country. There are jokes and claims that Shomalis get cucked all day, but that is not my experience and mainly comes from what I believe is the fact that they won't try to give you multiple stab wounds for politely saying Salam to their wives or sisters as they would in the region my mom is from (only slightly kidding, Thursday nights at the park usually include several knife fights randomly).

My cousin, Mr. Only Pussy Matters (still not getting much on the side of his wife), says badoo is king as far as online goes. While I have talked to girls on tinder in Iran and my cousin's general luck at getting poosy has gone up since dating apps, I can't agree that there should be any parallel to SEA tinder. I literally don't try or even swipe selectively and I end up with 20+ right swipes from girls a day in this region (just got Tinder Gold).

In Iran I get maybe 5-10, at absolute best, matches in Tehran every 3-4 days and it goes down to basically nil shortly after. This certainly may have to do with how I look Iranian and/or Arab and have an Iranian name, so they might just be swiping left quickly on me, but I'm certainly at the least an above average looking guy amongst Iranian men to put it lightly. Since they can't even legally use tinder and have to use what they call a "filter breaker", often times they don't even have enough knowledge to see I'm thousands of miles (or KM in their case), away.

All that being said, I highly doubt a non Farsi speaker is going to jump online even in the best case scenario of North Tehran and score EVEN 5 VERY HARD FOUGHT lays in a month. You absolutely should not escalate physically in public unless you are retarded and crazy like me, and even then the girl will stop you by saying "this is Iran, they'll put us away" or "some lady is going to chase me down the street and yell repeatedly that I'm a whore if you don't stop". These claims CAN BE very close to reality.

So how do you deal with a girl you can't really touch, who is most likely sexually conservative compared to the girls where you are from, who you can't openly drink with, and who you most likely won't hear much English from other than, "You are Emrikai? I love Emrika! I love Brad P(e)tt!" Probably followed by when do I get the Greencard.

I totally, totally, agree that Iranian girls in Iran are, for a large percentage, goo goo ga ga over going out with a Western white or black guy (also Arabs and maybe maybe Latinos, but forget everything else). For most guys with decent game and some language skills this will translate to many hookah, tea, ice cream, pizza, and walk in the park dates that probably lead to nothing more than you grabbing her ass if you are bold.

Sure, there are plenty of girls that want foreign guys and just to have free sex in general. Sure "some" or maybe "many" Northern Tehran girls know English and have possibly been abroad (meaning West, Malaysia in Iran is "ewww he went to Malaysia....."). This is the reality, even in liberal Tehran:

1. Many women are married. Married women, particularly in sexually conservative cultures where people always have family and neighbors around/watching, present their own hurdles. Add to this the government's own prying eyes and things like laws that allow stoning to death for an adulterous woman and potentially life imprisonment or hanging for an adulterous man. Oh, and that's for Iranian men and women, not young gents and gals from the enemy of the state (the West) that has put on hard sanctions to try to make the people erupt against the government.

2. Many girls already have boyfriends or guys they are seriously with, just like other places. Yes, girls cheat. Yes, they cheat in Iran. Yes, they may go out with you. No, just because you are foreign and have game and speak some broken Farsi they aren't going to give it to you. MOST unmarried females in Iran live with parents and/or family where many people occupy the same house designed for fewer, and MOST do not even have their own car. I've fucked in that country in cars in the park, in private houses in the north (Shomal, not North Tehran), and in my relative's places when people were on vacation or wives were at work with understanding cousin's peaking in the windows at us. Logistics are sort of, well, fucked. You cannot take a girl that is not your wife or mother or something like that into your hotel room legally, not even a butt ugly disfigured first cousin that you would never bang. I don't recommend bribery of hotel officials, although I'm sure it happens. You don't want to try to bribe the wrong guy, he can get a heavy sentence and definitely lose his livelihood even if he wants your $50. Again, not saying you can't, I just wouldn't risk it and to them I'm technically an Iranian and I'm fluent in the language and look like them and I'm crazy enough to try the shit.

3. There are A LOT of virgins. I know the whole girl claiming shes a virgin, but she's really not thing. Those exist. BUT...... In Iran there are A LOT of virgins that will remain so unless you rape them or they are SURE you will commit (rape also carries the death penalty, FYI, that's one indication of how they view sex and particularly virginity). You can legally get a temporary marriage which many, even in the greater Muslim world, argue is prostitution. I don't know how that works, but I assume you have to prove you are a Muslim and not just a sex tourist (hint hint) and I'm guessing the 30 year old virgin girl that's been saving it for her husband isn't going to give up her virginity to a guy that she's knows wants to hit it and quit it and return to the evil West just because he signs a contract saying that he will make 4 payments of $600 through the temporary marriage.

Oh, and I am definitely not an authority on the whole anal sex thing (almost 30 never been able to do it), but I hear guys say Iranian girls like it in the ass, particularly because of the vaginal virginity dilemma. I've tried with one girl in Iran to put it in her ass (she was the one that was the most serious, open minded, and willing of all the others), as well as a Persian girl in America and several girls of other races. Not a single one has worked out. Generally the three scenarios are: their assholes starts bleeding before I even get my penis head in (yes, I use tons of lube), or they ask me to stop in a way where I think shit is going to pop off, or they twist their ass or throw their butts/hips back at me to where my dick gets painfully bent. These have been all of the results of my journey into anal sex and I haven't so much as gotten my penis head in a woman's ass, so like I said, I'm no authority on this. That being said, girls that probably have only given a handjob by 24 years old and only when they were feeling "wild and crazy", probably won't let you take them to Imam Khomeini Airport's parking lot to fuck them in a rental car (pretty sure you can't even rent a car for the most part in Iran except Kish, tourist city in the Gulf). Good luck showing up with 10 words of Farsi and saying "Kun" (impolite way of saying butt but also butthole) repeatedly and getting a virgin to bend over in front of the Gasht-e-Ershad (female Islamic police that pull girls in vans to lecture them on better covering their hair with the hijab and to make sure they have less makeup on. Oh and they've gotten polite since decades ago, they used to violently rub off lipstick and paint men's arms black with actual paint if they came into the streets with short sleeves button downs). Yes, things have loosened up. No, things are not actually loosened up. Certainly not any of my girlfriend's buttholes no matter how much I begged and tried.

Despite this there are many girls you can bang. If there wasn't a travel ban issue I would probably go visit again now that I'm finally going abroad after a long time. I'm pretty sure with near nonstop approaching and online combined in three months I could bang 10-20 girls, maybe somewhat. Keep in mind though that I know the language fluently, get the girl's sexual psychology, have a network of family willing to help me out (female cousins even try to hook me up with their non virgin friends), and amongst that nationality am a tall, well built, and facially handsome guy. With that level of work in a place like the Philippines I would wager my crypto that I could easily get 90-180 girls. By that I mean literally get up, eat and work out, and game as much as possible throughout the day. If I'm not doing 15 solid approaches a day at a minumum and my logistics aren't at least "I will have an apartment to myself for at least 2-4 hours when I need it", then maybe even forget 10.


Ok, so this dragged on way too long. Let me conclude that:

A. I'm jealous of your North Tehran house party connections, or maybe I doubt them. Maybe I misunderstood what you wrote, but house parties do not occur all over, not even in North Tehran. If by house party you mean a bunch of people of all ages getting together to eat and/or drink tea and maybe, just maybe, dance a bit stone cold sober if they are a particularly rowdy bunch, sure, that happens all the time. Those are get togethers of people ranging from infants, to toddlers, all the way up to grandma that can't walk alone. Not sure if dudes here are looking for that, because most of these people don't speak English anyway, so you can't get with Persian 80 year old granny.

If by house party you meant where basically really rich or pretty rich kids have their parents house or apartment to themselves for a little while as a favor from their parents and the parents allow them to throw a party, yeah, that happens. I'm Iranian American and have 3rd cousins that live on Fereshte Street (Angel Street, big money Tehran) and I've still never been to one of those. Maybe you do in fact have the connections because of who you are or people contacting you because of your site or whatever. The reality in these exclusive parties is there are stories all over of the police raiding even these uber rich and police bribing areas and people getting arrested or even dying in the process. On an Iranian satellite channel based in Los Angeles there was even a host of a show that recounted how her twin sister fell to her death out of a tall building in one of those parties when she got terrified as the police stormed in.


Yeah I'm sure North Tehran is great and I totally believe the stories, but they don't just any random dude walk in, potentially land them in heavy legal and financial shit, and bang all their female friends that they have been working on for months or whatever (yes, some are still betas even though mom and dad are top 1%).


If by house parties you mean in the style that I had when I was there? Sure, maybe, but try to learn Farsi so you can actually speak to the girls. These were usually groups of like 10 guys drinking and smoking hookah in one dude's apartment, or if ladies were involved a roughly equal number of girls and guys getting together to talk shit, chill, and maybe drink. That was how I got my first Iranian notch in Iran, but like I said and/or hinted at above, my blood cousin convinced his girlfriend to bring her neighbor/friend to meet me at my cousin's boutique, after which we had a coffee. The next day we went to another cousin's house while his wife was at work and he took all of their wedding pictures down and the relatively few guys and girls sat around drinking a bit and talking. At one point I got the girl into one of the two rooms and fucked her for like 2 minutes before she wanted to check on everyone outside. Let's just say that wasn't a party to begin with, but by that point half of the handful of people had left. This is a girl that stayed with me from the time I met her until I left (about 2.5 months of 3). We finished the first true sexual experience the next day, but this whole process was a layup not just because of what I wrote above, but also because she was a non virgin divorcee that was pissed at her ex and wanted to get with the American guy (even though I'm ethnically Iranian). She barely knew 5 words of English, and a month later I taught her the most important ones that she ever learned and that she didn't forget as long as I was there, "I love your dick" (with her Persian provincial accent).

These were the "parties" I as a part of. Just keep in mind not everyone I know is a hill billy.

What I'm trying to say to the guys reading this is you don't just waltz into Tehran and walk into parties. I'm sure if you plan it right you can make things happen with some connections, hard work, and luck. Otherwise I doubt it, especially if you don't speak Farsi.




I do consider Iran a poosy paradise in one sense, I LOVE Iranian poosy. But like I said at the beginning I love poosy of all nationalities. It can be particularly sexy to get with your own race though, and I can see that as being a part of it.


I would not, however, recommend any guy that doesn't have connections or that doesn't speak Farsi to go to Iran by any means to try to get laid. Please, for God's sake, if you are in the West go to LA and try out there. Yes, LA Persian girls have certain issues, but they speak English, won't tell you to go fuck your mother out of nowhere because you say hello, and neither of you will face the threat of execution. If that is not enough of a reason to look for Persian ass in LA or Toronto or wherever in Europe then by all means go ahead.

I will definitely be travelling to SEA in about a couple of weeks. If all goes as planned I will be checking out Kuala Lumpur, which I am definitely excited to do, but that has the added bonus that based on both my family intel and forum intel seems to have a lot of Iranian students (had one very close cousin who studied Uni there). According to him, he had a Chinese Malay and Iranian national that would both come to his place together and sometimes they'd threesome. Iranians, including this cousin, while being very warm and friendly as naughty nomad correctly put it, are also two faced and notorious bullshitters/liars.

I'd take my cousin's words that I'm relaying here with a grain of salt, but hopefully I will be able to confirm that if there are enough numbers, Malaysia is where you should go if you want Iranian poosy. I can only speak in theory now, but these are my reasons (hopefully I can more accurately tell you what the truth is by summer):

1. Iranian girls, like many other girls, don't like East or Southeast Asian men. I don't mean 100% of them, as I'm sure many stay there and marry Malay guys, but I'm sue the percentage statement is high.
2. The foreign guys in Malaysia I am sure there is a good amount of competition for overall, and I'm guessing not everyone goes to Malaysia in search of Persian girls, so there isn't enough foreign man to go around for everyone.
3. These are probably the same girls that at this point still want to try something besides their Iranian and Malay classmates. They might hang out with Iranian guys all the time, but a handsome non Malay foreign guy could sweep them off their feet.
4. These girls are generally the at least somewhat more wealthy types but that aren't as great in school. If they weren't somewhat wealthy their parents couldn't afford to support them in Malaysia (my cousin's parents broke their backs to get him the bachelors and they are around upper middle class). If they were super smart they would be in Europe or America or something like girls I've dated here in America. Seems to me like we have an equivalent (albeit much more conservative and middle eastern type) situation as a not too great academic institution that is a party school.
5. The girls do not have the social stigma and legal issues that they face in Iran to a large extent, and in Iran it is hard to say whether they fear the stigma more or legal punishment. I'd bet the former, surprisingly. The only possible issue they may have with dating a foreign guy is if some Iranian sends the word back home about what they are doing, but this would backfire on everyone. Other than that I'm sure it'd make things hard if she gets caught cheating on her Iranian college sweetheart that she wants to marry, but I'm sure it happens.
6. I personally don't think the Persian princess is really a thing like people make it out to be. They either treat me poorly or very well in general. The ones that do so poorly generally don't act much different than American girls or usually even better, and to be honest the girls actually in Iran are the ones that are the most likely to cuss you out in a bad way. That being said, I would imagine the Persian princess thing might be toned down a tad in Malaysia because not only are they supposed to be from a better socioeconomic class and thus slightly more open minded, but they also know they aren't in LA like all the truly cool Persian kids. I mean you can't be too bitchy when your cousin is riding around in a black BMW through Beverly Hills with her Persian trick boyfriend when you are trying to get the Malaysian guy to stop flirting with you in the middle of the monsoon.

Good luck and let me know if any of you are going to Iran. I'd be happy to answer any questions.

[naughtynomad]

Wow. Great input. As for your questions and comments...

Yes, I found weed in both Isfahan and Shiraz and it was STRONG. Too strong. I had connections in Shiraz. In isfahan we actually got some from a Polish guy who had been travelling the country for a month. I actually would have preferred hash but wasn't offered.

As for online game, I didn't use Tinder (although the numbers in Tehran are growing massively) I just publicly posted the details of my trip on certain social media sites and a ton of men and women reached out to me. PM me for details.

As for Farsi, I actually did a whole course of Pimsleur before the trip. Regardless, the level of English there was surprising!

As for house parties we were even invited to one with 75 people!... but couldn't go as the trip was so short We just hit experienced small house parties with just of people. Ratios were pretty even.

[Zerdame]

This is a great data sheet on one of the most misunderstood parts of the world,

How would you gentlemen see me faring in Iran? I’m an East Asian looking(read: Korean/Japan/China), 5’6 (173cm), decently built. I do not speak any Farsi.

Are girls going to be interested or at least curious about an East Asian looking guy? I really doubt they get much tourists from Japan/Korea/China, East Asians still believe things they read on the media unfortunately

[StackGsMan]

(01-20-2018 06:10 PM)Zerdame Wrote:  

This is a great data sheet on one of the most misunderstood parts of the world,

How would you gentlemen see me faring in Iran? I’m an East Asian looking(read: Korean/Japan/China), 5’6 (173cm), decently built. I do not speak any Farsi.

Are girls going to be interested or at least curious about an East Asian looking guy? I really doubt they get much tourists from Japan/Korea/China, East Asians still believe things they read on the media unfortunately

Really not trying to be rude here, I swear, but, are you joking or serious?

If you're serious I think you should just avoid Iran if you're after girls. You will almost literally be the last "type" of guy they will want. I put type in quotations because you made the question mainly in terms of race/body type.

Yes, there are very few tourists in Iran, even Tehran and the tourist cities, compared to much of the world. The trouble is the few that actually go there are generally white Europeans and Chinese/East Asian businessmen.

Iran is a close ally of China (relatively speaking) and like everyone else is buying a bunch of their shit from East Asia (more so even than many other places because they have troubles with the West and Iran doesn't really produce anything of it's own that anyone wants unless they are that broke).


Despite what other guys are saying, English is NOT well spoken in Iran. Iranians in general LOVE America (with obvious big exceptions in the population), and are very into American media products (movies, music, etc.). Many, if not most, of the young people are trying to varying extents to learn English and want to do so badly. This has not translated into effective English capabilities. There is a certain segment of the population that speaks English pretty damn well, but they are generally the rich and/or highly educated group and are in a sense elite.

Not saying you can't break into that group as Naughty Nomad has hinted at (he never explicitly said it so I'm not trying to call him out and I would imagine his tactic of using social media to set up ties and his potential popularity greatly helped him along), but that would even be out of the realm of a guy like me that is good looking, looks Lebanese (a lot of Iranian girls are wet for Arab guys), is tall and was well built at the time (6'2'' and 235 lbs, generally muscular not 3% body fat and all muscle), speaks fluent Farsi, and has relatives and places to stay all over.


Based on your big three question groups in that post, race, body size/type, and lack of language skills I'd say you'd be at or near dead last in terms of what they are looking for.

Just as in China or Korea where the new generations have gotten taller, Iranians have gotten taller. There are still tons of guys walking around at your height, 5'6''ish, but go to a region like that where my mom is from. I'm one of the shorter cousins, and I'm 6'2''. We have an 18 year old that is over 7 feet tall. My uncle, who was born in the 1950's before this whole jump in height thing due to nutrition or whatever it is was 6'6'' when he died. We aren't the tallest region. Again, yes, there are tons of shorter guys, but there are also many average and even way above average heights. Women in Iran, like everywhere, generally prefer taller men. You will be about the height of many of the girls, although certainly not all. My aunt is 6 ft even ffs

The racial thing I have talked about either in this thread or my datasheet on Iranian girls. Girls in Iran, in my experience, are different than girls in America or abroad (can only speak of America and things I've heard about Europe although I generally understand the Persian girl psyche about these things).

The girls abroad, although they certainly sleep around and many date and marry outside of the nationality, are or at some point will mainly move toward Persian men. They talk about this and that other race, but their actions are totally geared at getting Persian guys. This includes girls born and raised in Iran that come here as adults or whatever. Generally their dating/sexual trajectory is maybe date certain races/groups (I'll name them shortly) for a while, but go back to Persian guys eventually. The running joke and what many people think is they want to have sexual fun and satisfaction for a while and then go back to find a "Persian douchebag prince". While there certainly is an element of being rebellious with some of these Persian girls and some of them permanently date outside of Iranian guys, the psychology is different than what many people think.

The reality is they, ESPECIALLY ESPECIALLY girls actually born and raised in Iran or the ones that are still there, have fantasies and ideas about men of other races that don't pan out in reality. I'll give you one of the not so prevalent ones, meaning very low amount of fantasies about this, and you can decide how effective it is. The Latin guy is a great dancer thing. Yeah, I'm sure there are tons of great Latino dancers and most women, if not all, like a guy that can dance. But most girls in Iran, unless they are OBSESSED with Latin culture and/or dance, do not know much about Salsa, let alone the other more obscure Latin dances. They may have seen a couple of clips of salsa on youtube when they break the government internet filter, and chances are they will never practice it (again, unless they are OBSESSED). I don't even know if you can find 2 Mexican restaurants in Tehran, a city of like 12-17 million people depending on who you ask and the time of day (maybe there are 5 or so Mexican restaurants, I don't know).

So when the girl gets lucky and wins the Visa lottery to come to America or is basically genius level intelligence to make it out here for school or is super rich, she might hit LA. Maybe she is still hot for the Latin Lover stereotype. Maybe she finds one that can dance salsa. She probably can't dance it and doesn't have the drive to become Ms. Salsa Queen. She gives up and he just becomes a guy of a different culture. Wait, you do such and such and you don't know such and such about my culture, uh ok... Time goes on and he's just a boyfriend either out of his individuality or out of her girl hamster sticking around until a better one comes along or whatever. After a while her high maintenance Persian ass (which I love to put up with personally) gets to be too much and the fact that he can speak to the guy making the tacos in his own language becomes less appealing. They break up and unless he left a particularly great impression in her mind, particularly relative to Persian guys in her past, she ends up bumping into a Persian guy through basically her all Persian social circle and they become the high maintenance annoying Persian girl and her Persian douchebag prince couple.

I used the Latin example to give an example that was generally easy to use and would lead to little controversy.

The actual races, not listed in order of preference because it is highly individual an one Persian girl can love on of them and hate or not care about the others or whatever other combination, that Persian girls like outside of Iranian guys are:

1. Arab
2. Black
3. White

I've seen Pakistani guys coming up in the Persian girl game and I've heard talk of the Latino thing, but the top three are the main groups. Pakistani guys I assume are getting it in because they also have big populations abroad, they have the similar Muslim/cultural/language thing going on (yes Urdu is different than Farsi but it is much more related to it than even Arabic aside from the borrowed Arab words in Farsi), and the ones that get with Persian girls from what I've seen seem to be those intense I'm the man of the house types that some girls like.

Latin guys there are the stereotypes, but I don't even recall seeing that many Persian girls with them other than maybe in LA (not saying it doesn't happen elsewhere, just don't see all that many) and LA is what like 50% Latino?

Even Paki and Latino guys, which would probably be the next two groups, are limited.



So the big three races as far as dating outside Iranian men for Persian girls are listed above. I can even link stupid SJW type Iranian American girl websites where they have girl talk articles about these three races. Not that guys from these races are bad or worse in any way, I mean specifically the way in which they right about these topics is a little too 2015 wanna be feminist.

1. Arab- Lot's of Iranian girl Arab guy things have happened. In that SJW website they write black guys are the forbidden fruit, but Arab guys are the snake. That is mainly the fantasy psychology of Iranian girls with Arab guys. The realistic portion is the culture is relatively similar and Arab guys carry themselves in a masculine manner. I would say this is the top go to for Persian girls outside or Iranian guys, but there are many that only want the other two groups.

As I said, I look Lebanese to most people of all races. The other month I walked up to what I thought was a light skin Latina at a grocery store, and turns out she was Iranian. Seemed to have just come from Iran within the past 2-3 years. When I asked where she was from and she said Iran I started talking in Farsi. She immediately said she thought I was an Arab, and I told her I had just come from an Arab barber jokingly (although it was literally true, still had little hairs on my hand and was just picking up a small thing of spice) and that people always think I'm Arab. She was blushing and obviously excited, but came up with the I'm married thing and I excused myself whether it was truth or lie (I always become hesitant in my hometown when I run into Iranian or some specific Arab groups because they are a small community and I don't want to embarrass my mom, don't care personally). As an example I was dating a girl from a certain Arab country and I happened to approach two other girls from her same country without knowing that's where they were from. After I got the digits and called them some days later my Arab girl would randomly call me less than a minute later and completely bitch me out without mentioning why, which was way out of her character. She had told me about private facebook groups of girls in my city from that specific country. Surprise surprise at the call.

Anyway the Iranian girl I walked away from even though I could have kept pushing, and as I walked away she yelled "jigar". That means liver. A little play thing they say in Iran and Farsi generally between a guy and girl or sometimes between an older lady and a young very cute child is either "jigar" (more reserved for guy/girl flirting) and "jigareto khaum khaum bokhoram", which means I want to eat your liver raw. These things are basically like when I've had girls of other groups say you're so cute/turning me on so much that I want to bite you (although it is more flirtatious and less obvious). It's like I would imagine if a Cuban says "ay que rica" or "oye mami spanish spanish spanish spanish", but it goes both ways between men and women. I just turned back from walking away and froze up a bit, not out of nerves, but because I hadn't spit game in Farsi in a long time (mainly talk to my parents or other old people so the conversation is different) and I said "khodet jigari" or "you're the liver". Makes sense in Farsi, she giggled and I kept it moving.

The point of all that is my look is Arab and my game is tight and I'm a big guy, so I get even more attention from Iranian girls. This was in a grocery store that was predominantly Latino and the next race of the three, black (more black than Latino). She had her pick and probably had been flirted with a lot, but was a tad bit excited by the Arab looking Farsi speaking guy. Oh and there are white areas down the road as well, most likely where she lives (probably goes to that grocery store because while it is on my side, the black/latino side, it is right on the edge and offers the best prices and selection combined with a much more racially mixed clientele than the ones actually near me).

2. Black- In Iran itself there is a big fantasy taboo about black guys. It isn't every girl. I've heard girls tell me that they think blacks should still be slaves and much worse. When I say I'm from Texas and explain the large black population (they think Texas is a desert with white people riding horses and carrying 7 shooters) that sort of thing sometimes comes up. That type of thing is rare though. There were no, or very very few black slaves in Iran, unlike many Arab countries that slaved them from East Africa (as opposed to the West African majorities in the West).

Those minor comments aside, if Iranian girls aren't interested in black guys, they just drop the conversation quick or say I don't like that and change the topic. That being said, there seems to be a large amount of black male obsession (not black people in general, meaning including women). There aren't many black people walking around Iran, and those are mainly African students or few Muslim tourists or whatever. I only saw one group of three young black guys in my three months and that was at the central bazaar in Tehran once. I wouldn't be surprised though if they were on their equivalent journey to Iran as a poosy paradise though based on their look and mannerisms (young, in shape, well dressed, and the mannerisms of guys at least trying to get numbers. Game recognizes game).

So the majority of the black obsession, with the girls that do in fact have it, is based on what they see in Western media. For many if not almost all the only thing they know of black guys is athletics, music, movies, and pornos. That is literally all their exposure aside from if they like politics and the news maybe some Iranian propaganda showing the hood and saying how the black people in America are all treated badly and poor (I'm sure we can agree not every black guy in America is walking 5 miles in the snow to eat out of a garbage can, it is anti-American propaganda similar to what the Castros did in Cuba or the FSU and America has it's own inaccurate media propaganda against Iran that isn't reality).

So basically the conception among some of these girls is Super human athlete that is either incredibly talented at music and/or acting or decided to skip the rap career because he is 6'7'' but didn't make the league because of the government trying to keep him down. This is the fantasy type thing of some girls.

Aside from that there is the reality that some women of all races are particularly into black men for legitimate reasons (like the culture, skin color, body shape, whatever). And the even bigger reality is that they aren't searching out Africans from the bush, they want American or at least Western European black men. It is still somewhat the same as the next group I'm about to get at, white men, but with an added they have a different look aspect. It is an element of I really want out of Iran, and if I so happen to like black guys all the better/I'm in heaven.

If you look at Iranian girls in the West though who in the worst case can sneak around and generally can at least quietly date black guys, they don't go too far with it. There might be love affairs, cheating, or a rebellious phase, but it usually doesn't go too far. I'm sure you could find a handful or maybe even plenty Persian girls committed to black guys, but if anything it is Persian guys dating, marrying, and having kids outside the race and even that is generally not the case.

It is actually the same with white guys as black guys in just about every way (relative to Persian girls that is) except that we can't use the "she has to reject me because I'm black and her family/social circle won't accept that" as easily with whites. Still the same reality though, even though many Iranian parents, like my own, encourage me to get with Whites.

The masculinity aspect of Arab guys also exists here, but with Arab guys it is more of a he "acts and talks like a man" versus the black physical masculinity idea.

3. White- Generally the same as black guys obviously minus the look (different skin color, eye colors, etc. in case this needs to be explained) and minus the wow they are so amazing on TV thing. The so amazing on TV thing occurs with white men as well, but it is of a different form. The history of white imperialism, strong countries where people actually follow laws (unlike Iran), dominance in basically everything for centuries except certain pockets of things (for instance blacks increasingly in the media in the past few decades), and the like. Iranian women are also aware of things like the Dutch being the top two tallest peoples of the world (I think the other is Serbia or some other former Yugoslav nation, right?), their favorite sport is soccer and Germany and other majority white teams do very well (yes I know Latin countries are good too), and every damn chick knows the name Brad Pitt out there. Like I'm pretty sure the name Donald Trump and Brad Pitt aren't too different in terms of percentage of people that know who they are in Iran (particularly the younger people under 35-40). Yeah, almost everyone knows who Trump is if not everyone, but I'd be surprised if at least 50-75% of people under 40 didn't know Brad Pitt, and that is much higher amongst the women.

Aside from that, white guys, particularly from the West and especially America, carry two things with them that Western black guys also carry (by carry I mean in the minds of Iranian women regardless of truth). The two things are first the better life abroad/potential for Greencard/ he probably has more money than my family does if he is from the west thing.

The other major thing, which I forgot to mention about black guys but applies to them as well (maybe not to Arab guys though), is the whole idea that he is more likely to hold the door for me than to beat my ass in front of the kids thing. That is obviously a bit of hyperbole, but it is an idea that Iranian women have to varying degrees of the gentle yet rugged Western man. In reality, yes there is probably more domestic violence in the Middle East than in the West, but I don't think any reasonable person is going to make the claim that no American white or black guys have ever hit a woman. It happens. I won't get into the whole numbers of the thing argument, but it certainly isn't 0% domestic abuse here even though the fantasy/stereotype is almost at the level of "they don't do that sort of thing".


So that's the racial thing. That's the body thing. That's the language thing.


Your connections and game will trump everything regardless of your race and shape and even language skills (the only thing you can 100% change of the three).

If you are serious about even considering Iran learn the language, get your game up (game is slightly different there, but there are still universal things between men and women everywhere), and make connections.

Otherwise I hate to break it to you, but as far as I can tell you are basically at the end of the line in just about every regard except that you seem to know English and are from the West. In that case you are more of a greencard than anything if you don't have the game and other things.

Keep in mind though that there is an Asian fetish amongst certain women all over the world, just as there is one for whites, blacks, latinos, mid easterners, and even desis and everyone else.

It is just that the Asian fetish is probably one of the least prevalent ones and I would imagine takes more of the shape of he will make a good life partner and father. This might translate into great lover as well depending on the girl and how a particular Asian guy plays it because the underlying psychology is he will be there for me and be very attentive in and out of the bedroom.

That being said, even the relatively small Asian fetish is more based on culture and attitude (closely related to game) than anything else. I'll just cut this short, but just like anywhere else that isn't particularly Asian they aren't dropping the panties by the thousands for the Asian lover stereotype they've seen on TV and been dreaming about. Iranian women if anything are ignorantly racist more than a lot of other places.

I don't mean racist which is ignorant in itself, I mean ignorantly racist (talking more about Iranian women in Iran then even those in the West, who by virtue of higher status, more opportunity, and actually seeing other peoples/races begin to see the truth and are still ignorant)

In their mind (and I'm obviously exaggerating to a certain extent):

The white guy is either Brad Pitt or at very best a computer nerd Dilbert. There is little conception of the possibility of a white guy like Bill Clinton not having a father and being mainly raised by his grandparents in broke ass Arkansas and making it all the way. It is ignorant fantasy of a charmed life for white men and dollars being picked out of trees. There is no such thing as an abusive white man and the idea of actually being able to drink legally doesn't form a link in their mind of the alcoholic white dad that beats the fuck out of his kids and wife (not saying this is common, just giving an extreme example of misconceptions).

The black guy either deserves to be in chains because of his ugly skin and mannerisms or he dunks from the three point line on his way to save the children of Rwanda after his sold out concert where he advised Obama backstage about detente while Obama was president. There is little conception of the regular black guy that works his 9-5 in an office and lives a normal life whether that be surrounding himself with his fellow race outside of work or white, latin, or whatever other race.

The Arab guy isn't basically the same shit as the Persian guy except that his language group invented the religion that most Iranian youths, and particularly young women, are increasingly growing to despise (Islam). There is little image of the lazy dude eating hummus all day in a country that can't produce a gold medal or over a dozen of them can't get together and slap Israel around a bit. The fantasy is ooo they come from the desert and have tough manly genetics, isn't it obvious by the fact that his voice squeaks when he talks yet when he says the word Arab it gets incredibly deep randomly?

Basically this is a very politically incorrect country (most of the jokes in Iran, and I'm talking famous stand up comedians that I even find funny as an American, are based on stereotypes of the different Iranian regions/ethnicities). Combine that with a lack of tourism and a closed government (most of the internet you can only access illegally, although it is common, and they raid building rooftop's regularly to remove satellites that get Western channels), and you have people living in a fantasy world of sorts.


Don't get me wrong, Iranians are still human, there are many intelligent people, and as others have said they are very warm and excited to talk to foreigners (especially Americans and Europeans). They aren't a hateful people, but they are ignorant in many ways, not necessarily in the sense that they are bad, but ignorant in the sense that they don't actually know the reality of life abroad and how other peoples really are.


One typical example of what I hear all the time from guys in Iran who have never been out of the country and probably never met a single or maybe one foreigner in their lives. They look around Iran and see guys approaching women non stop all fucking day. The typical comment:

"Bruh if I was in America I'd have slept with like 2,000 women by now (at like age 28 or whatever". I translated it not literally, but basically how they say those things if it were an American.

Yes, part of this is false bravado and bullshit, but they to a VERY LARGE degree believe the panties come off in seconds in America. Like I've explained many times that American girls, even fucking Scandinavian broads, are not sleeping with guys pretty much on every first date just because you can buy them a fucking shirley temple here. I've explained that they are still women, and even with tremendous game sometimes a guy will just fail, and sometimes he will get it but it will take time.

Their answer is generally along the lines of, no you just suck, put me out there and I'll show you a different girl every day.


This isn't just cocky I'm better than you shit, although it is to an extent, it is more an actual ignorant belief that because society is free (freer let's say, not a topic they understand either), that it is a nonstop booze fueled sex orgy.

Because the Islamic Republic makes women wear hijabs and puts down potential widespread rebellions, there is no such thing as innocent people (of all races) being shot to death by police openly in the middle of the day and caught on tape and still getting off in America. The people who actually believe these things (about issues in America itself) are mainly the particularly intelligent and open minded people or else stupid ignorant fucks that yell death to America. The friendly and warm people that will walk up to you and talk to you because you are foreign are more likely to believe something closer to news of these police killings and what not are somewhat or largely Iranian propaganda or exaggeration against America.

When the Green Movement riots happened about a decade ago if I remember correctly one girl out of thousands (maybe tens of thousands or more) violent protesters was shot dead by a sniper. I'm not coming out in favor of the Islamic Republic here, but putting myself in their shoes you can't just let people riot in the streets and flee to America for protection when that leads to loss of power if you get what I'm saying. They shot one person in the middle of a violent and widespread riot.

How many people were just killed on tape in extra judicial murders by police during peacetime who were totally innocent in America over the last few years. Yeah I get the young guy in Missouri was big and he may have threatened the cop in some way, but I'm pretty sure the pot bellied middle aged man in South Carolina that basically had a whole clip emptied into him after he slowly jogged away from a routine traffic stop and committed no actual crime didn't deserve to be shot like 8 times in the back. Maybe just try shooting him 4 times next time Mr. Po Po so you can save your rounds for a child. Keep in mind this is just whats caught on tape and mainly gets out because the victims are black and the cops are white. Look it up, but there are, in terms of total numbers, more police killing of white people in America than black (black percentage is much higher, but total numbers are lower because of the white percentage of the population).

I'm not even trying to be on some political or liberal stuff right now, I just don't like seeing innocent people get murdered by the protect and serve guys, and it is beyond a chuckle when people in Iran think the West is free and safe and women are super easy like having a glass of water in a water/glass producing factory.

That's what I mean by ignorant. Not stupid, just ignorant of reality.


All of that aside, which you may have taken as negativity, my take on things is if you want it go and fucking get it. Stand up like a man and take the risk. I can respect a dude that gets up and fights a bigger and better fighting guy because the guy was crossing the line but ends up knocked out. That's a man.

But if you are surrounded by crazy ass Serbians in the Greek islands and no one is going to help you like the story about the young black guy in the summer, just give it up and walk away. Don't get beaten to death.


Iran for you will be that same sort of thing as far as game. You aren't exactly going to be a favorite based on your race, size, and lack of language skills. You might be treated unfairly as an Asian dweeb even if you are Casanova/Bruce Lee/King Kong Ding Dong.

But I won't be surprised if you have a little charm that a lot of people are friendly toward you and welcoming and may invite you out or possibly even to their homes if you have some game (they are less worried about psycho serial killers than places like America).


I'm just chillin waiting to go on my SEA trip so I have time to write this stuff, but like I said, if you want it go get it. But it won't be like taking candy from a baby unless you got the game, money, and/or connections (and even then it won't be candy from a baby).


My advice for an "East Asian looking guy" that is 5'6'' and doesn't speak Farsi is go to LA or Toronto or wherever else there is a large population of Persians.


Again, not sure if you're clowning and I'm gullible, but the post stands regardless and like I said I'm waiting on this SEA trip. Not even seeing notches I just got for repeat sex when they ask me over.

Good luck to you and a salaam alekom my Asian brother (get on the a salaam alekom tip before you go to Iran too FYI, not for the girls, for the other people that may care).

[Drix]

StackGsMan,Great info about Iran. In my case, i am latino who met a hot,open minded iranian girl and everything that you wrote is similar to the things she told me about her home country.

Just a short story, few months ago, i was goofing around in Tinder and changed my location to Iran and i got tons of matches, even i met two girls who could speak some spanish(had spanish classes in their university) and were crazy for latin culture. Despite of that, i think the greatest thing was when i did a videochat with an irani and her 4 friends, they were seeing me as a “famous guy”, asking Many questions and showing interest in me.

StackGsman, You are right. From most of the girls that i have talked, they just have the stereotype of latino as a hot tanned guy who can speak spanish and dance really well. They don’t know about salsa, bachata or something relate to the latin culture.

One of the things that make me smile a lot is when i see their profiles in Facebook and they have just photos of them wearing hiyab while they send me their naked pics by Telegram or in the videocam. As you said, they key is to enter to the “right social circles” , from the videos of the girls, they seem to drink and party hard in housea. To Finish, i would like to visit Iran, but not esentially for the women, i think It is an exotic country with a different environment and great history that i want to see in first hand.

[StackGsMan]

(01-20-2018 11:10 PM)Drix Wrote:  

StackGsMan,Great info about Iran. In my case, i am latino who met a hot,open minded iranian girl and everything that you wrote is similar to the things she told me about her home country.

Just a short story, few months ago, i was goofing around in Tinder and changed my location to Iran and i got tons of matches, even i met two girls who could speak some spanish(had spanish classes in their university) and were crazy for latin culture. Despite of that, i think the greatest thing was when i did a videochat with an irani and her 4 friends, they were seeing me as a “famous guy”, asking Many questions and showing interest in me.

StackGsman, You are right. From most of the girls that i have talked, they just have the stereotype of latino as a hot tanned guy who can speak spanish and dance really well. They don’t know about salsa, bachata or something relate to the latin culture.

One of the things that make me smile a lot is when i see their profiles in Facebook and they have just photos of them wearing hiyab while they send me their naked pics by Telegram or in the videocam. As you said, they key is to enter to the “right social circles” , from the videos of the girls, they seem to drink and party hard in housea. To Finish, i would like to visit Iran, but not esentially for the women, i think It is an exotic country with a different environment and great history that i want to see in first hand.

And you should visit.

Last time I was there I went to the Mexican embassy with a cousin for a certain reason. Besides the employees there was only one guy there, a Mexican national that both spoke Spanish and pretty good English (certainly conversational, maybe fluent but not fully). He didn't speak Farsi though.

He was a cool guy, but because of the nature of the country and the nature of being in an embassy I didn't want to put him in a position he wouldn't like so I didn't ask about his girl experience and drugs or anything like that.


Men of all races and nationalities will be treated well in Iran by both men and women. The only thing is don't expect to show up and have sex. It isn't nearly as bad as some people think to get laid, but it isn't a cake walk either.


Keep in mind one thing from your post so you don't go to Iran and end up disappointed. You are talking about girls on tinder and all that. Those girls are not a typical example of girls in Iran. They are usually more open to dating and sex then other girls, and they aren't that many. If you aren't concerned with your tinder elo please set your location wherever you want in Tehran with the maximum range. I guarantee you if you swipe non stop you will run out of girls in 20 minutes tops, more like 10 minutes though. That's in a city that can get closer to 17 million people at peak. So we are talking like what, 200 or 300 girls in the biggest, most sexually liberal city in the country?

Also, just because they do things like send you nudies they aren't definitely going to sleep with you. I'm not trying to burst your bubble, but that is a thing all over the world. If I slept with every girl that I got a titty or pussy snap from on snapchat in the past year or so that I've had it I'd have a lot of extra notches floating around.

But speaking of nudes from Iranian girls in Iran, when I was swiping in Tehran a month or two ago, which I mentioned that I did from my current location in America just to check it out and out of horniness, I got some match, not many.

One of the girls that I talked to for a bit ended up sending me pics of her pussy close up and naked tits within a few days of our match. Sounds great right? Well she was a virgin in her late twenties living with her parents. She just wanted a guy different from all the other guys around, even if I am Iranian myself ethnically. She was most likely bored and maybe a little horny and seeing if she could also angle into making it out to the US.

I've been to Iran. I wasn't going to get that pussy even if I flew to Iran the next day. Sure, I may have been able to, just depends on the girl and the situation. Keep one thing in mind though that I mentioned before, rape in Iran carries the death penalty. Let that run through your head when you are a horny and trying to "get through Last Minute Resistance", if in fact you do get there.

I've said it before, I'm a guy that does some risky shit by many people's standards. Maybe not by El Chapo's standards, but I'm a bit of a risk taker. Even I, who speak Farsi, have family all over Iran, and am considered an Iranian with an Iranian passport by the national government despite being born and raised in America, don't want to take certain risks there.

I've smoked hash publicly many times there, had sex outside of marriage many times and with multiple women, had death threats hurled at me in the middle of the night, and tried to bang women in public (did so with the last one I was with in her car in a park in Karaj).

Even I wouldn't fuck with a girl unless I'm fairly certain I'm not getting a charge. Like if there is any bit of my spidey sense tingling that this is in any way shady or not good I wouldn't do it there.


Not saying that is always the case or even regularly. If anything I would imagine if you can actually get a girl to your place (if you have one that allows that and she agrees) then maybe 90% of the battle is won. I've never had a girl in Iran come to a private place with me that I didn't sleep with that same day, but I've only been with four women there.


So the girl wearing the hijab and sending you nudies isn't exactly something great or secret slutty/naughty. She is wearing the hijab not to seem modest and Muslim but because she has to by law even in pictures where men can see her. The ones that don't are taking a risk, but the prudent ones that have family and more importantly connections to worry about wouldn't do that. The sending of nudes I already addressed, girls do that all over but it doesn't always lead to sex.

It's like these guys that front as thugs/ drug dealers in America. A real drug dealer, a very serious one, will try to seem as professional and inconspicuous as possible. That guy is trying to run a business and sell a product without getting caught, so he might be sitting at the next table by you at the fancy hotel and he looks like some investment banker or lawyer or something. Its the guys that front like thugs that are either selling little pebbles at best or don't actually have anything to do with crime.

Same sort of deal with Iranian girls wearing the hijab. I am not saying there isn't an element of "ooo I feel naughty sending poosy pics with my hijab on" with some of those girls, but it is more of a I can't blatantly be slutty in front of people here because they will do more than just "slut shame" me.


Also, about your tan skin. Not that I care at all, but most Iranians are "tan" or "tannish". We call it Sabze. I'm a light skin Iranian and I know of blonde hair blue eyed guys (my dad has bright green eyes and "tan" skin), but we run the color spectrum all the way to pretty dark. Don't quite make it to black, but otherwise we run the gamet of Latino colors, we just look different.

If you have an image of Iranian girls as being light, which I am not saying you do, that isn't exactly the case. Keep in mind for the most part women are the fairer sex because they are generally lighter than men. You probably can't find as many natural blonde males as natural blonde female for example. But yeah a lot of Iranian girls are Mestiza or Morena in color. We just don't have as much African blood so Morena can mean different things, and like I said it is called Sabze.

So I just wanted to correct you on that point. I don't think anyone is interested in you because of your tan skin, because it is common there. They are interested in you because you are FOREIGN and they only see Iranian guys all day. There has been a shift I think in the past decade or so where being tan is seen as more sexy/attractive. That might have something to do with the influence of American media and black people in those parts of the media and their success. I don't really know, but the tan thing is taking hold to varying extents in different places (hint hint el presidente). That being said, white skin is generally still the prize in Iran. It isn't what it once was where you could easily say almost everyone wanted it, but it still isn't "bad" to be white. Worst case scenario they will ask you if you would ever tan, but more often than not they prefer it. You do see a lot of girls walking around with really dark fake tans though, but they are also generally the type that smother their faces with makeup like clowns (haven't tried to google it but the clown makeup thing is big in Iran). Combine that with Iran being the nose job capitol of the world and you get some really fake looking chicks.

Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of those fake looking chicks too. But they are really one step from putting on a red wig and 50 of them coming out of a single car. You see this sort of makeup thing with some Chicanas in America if you know what I mean and can imagine that, but some Iranian girls do it even worse.

So black skin and black people have a different attraction for some Iranian girls than "tan" guys, and it is often the lighter skin black celebrities that they talk about. Yeah I'm sure there are Iranian girls goo goo over dark black skin like there are women into that everywhere, but by the time they are telling me they like black guys and name Drake and Chris Brown and the point comes up about darker skin and they say definitely not, maybe some are still being modest, but at that point there isn't any filter on that conversation if you get me.

So dark skin, even in the case of black people, isn't highly prized, and black people are liked by some for different reasons aside from the color. "Tan" skin on a Latino is almost what an Iranian guy looks like to begin with. When we would change channels when I was a kid and pass Telemundo my parents would always comment on how "they look just like us". Yeah, the Telemundo guys and girls are not Aztecs, but they aren't all super light skin either.

Play the foreign card with Iranian girls and get the hamster rolling in terms of how you are different than anyone they are used to because of your culture. Don't think your tan skin is a big part of it, even if she says so. I'd love to show you a picture of one of several of my cousins, I just texted him an hour ago in fact. He is tan as well. He's the guy I went to the Mexican embassy with. I used to call him the 2 meter Mexican 6 years ago because he looks like a really tall, tan Mexican guy. Not 100%, but if he spoke Spanish like a true Mexican and walked around DF I doubt anyone would say he isn't from some Latin country at least.

By the way, I'm not trying to make Mexican synonymous with Latino, because I am not sure if you are Mexican yourself. Just using Mexico as an example.


Good luck with the Iranian girls though. I believe in something like poosy karma. If I hate on a guy for trying to get with my nationality then the universe is going to hate on me when I hit on a girl from another nationality. I happen to like all races and nationalities of women equally, no lie, so I'd be SOL if I got grief over talking to a woman of another race all the time (it happens, but not too too often and more often in the US South).

Make it happen guapo