[speakeasy]

I'm not sure if this should be in the girls forum or the travel forum.

Obviously a guy can do well in any city if he puts his mind to it. Afterall I know guys with no game or looks whatsoever who still date, meet girlfriends and even marry. I'm just curious about general impressions of the city you reside.

I think Los Angeles is probably one of the most challenging markets in the country. There are a couple of reasons. L.A. is the biggest cockfest in the nation by numbers. Most California cities are, but L.A. has the most single men of any major city in the country. The big blue dots on the map = cockfest, the big red dots would be the vibrator belt. I don't know who coined that phrase "go west, young man" but apparently someone was listening.



On top of a bad ratio in favor of women, the women that are here are above average in looks compared with the country, which makes their value go up even more. This city, like Miami is obsessed with looks and image, and it draws a lot of people in that are. Especially those trying to make it as actresses. American women may be fat in general, but I don't see many fat women here, at least not on the scene. The Mexican women with a bunch of kids may be fat through. But young, middle class single girls(esp the white and Asian ones) are not, there's not much obesity here amongst them.

Thirdly, you have a huge culture of flaking here. And I'm not talking just girls, I'm talking everyone. Being a flake is just a natural way of life in this part of the country. The uber-casual culture here makes people lackadaisical and non-committal. Plans are often broken at whim. Many people just won't even make plans in advance incase a better option opens up later they don't want to be committed(I plead guilty to this myself many times). As one buddy of mine from Oregon jokes, "when someone in L.A. says 'yes', that means 'maybe', and when they say 'maybe' that's as good as 'no'." Luckily I have a close circle of long-time friends I can count on.

So cockfest + lots of hotties + culture of flakiness makes this I think one of the more challenging places in America to game. I think if a guy can cut it here, he can cut it anywhere.

What do you think about your city? I'd be curious to hear Mixx chime in on Miami. While it has the air of pretentiousness like L.A. and all the beautiful people, there are actually more single women there than men. That's pretty interesting. I don't know if the flaking is as bad there as here though.

Anyone here from Chicago? I've always been curious about the scene there. More girls in the ratio and the people I've met from there seem more down to earth and unpretentious. Probably a lot more fatties though.

[cityhype]

Sad, but not surprising to see my part of the country (SF) covered in Blue. It's definitely tough to cut through the bullshit up here too, but not as bad as LA. LA has to be one of the worst areas in the country in terms of flaking and i'm sure like you said, it has something to do with the entertainment industry.

The nice thing about SF in comparison to LA is that there aren't a lot of bad ass celebrities, fighters, body builders, etc. to compete with for the best talent. Here the really wealthy people are more "local celebrities" like silicon valley tech studs mark zuck, dave mcclure, and paul graham...essentially names and faces that, if your not aware of the tech scene, you would never know (excluding zuck obviously).

These guys are SO fucking loaded its not even funny, but they don't have mainstream notoriety and to be simply honest, they're not good looking and they don't focus on gaming chicks. Guys are mostly about their money up here (or like azul mentioned, other guys) and just wait for the rest to fall into place (nice job, nice house, nice wife, nice life type-of-thing)...so while I too am about my money, I'm always confident there's a ton of women up here starved for the type of playful banter and attention needed to seal the deal.

[azulsombra]

I can concur with most of what has been said about the abundance of males on the west coast. However, based on experience living on the east coast, south, and now west coast i believe the dating scene has much more potential here. Sure there may be more guys in L.A. but many more of those guys aren't interested in females than in other cities.....if you catch my drift. Nationwide, California has the reputation of being a gay mecca, so these numbers shouldn't be that discouraging. It only states that men outnumber women by about 40,000 in a metro area of around 10 million, thats really insignificant.

And despite the 200,000 or so "surplus" women on the east coast, how many of them are under 35, don't have an "att'-itude", plus are actually bangable? Women who live in colder temperature typically don't pay as much attention to their physical fitness as someone who lives in miami or los angeles with warm weather almost year round. Trust me when you encounter enough loud,super serious, materialistic career women by comparison a hot, flaky airhead doesn't seem so bad.

[subutai]

It looks like the US could use a:

1. World War to reduce the number of men
2. Famine to starve the women back into normal sized jeans and compete for the fewer men caused by #1
3. Energy crisis to shelve cars and force people to walk and live in clustered cities like in Europe

[spinaroonie]

If you're a young professional dude in your 20s then living in a Podunk town with a college campus is bank.

1. Quantity & Quality. Ratios are in your favour - every college campus has a surplus of women. Tons of college girls in their physical prime - younger, hotter, tighter. Many are single, lonely, and in their "experimental" phase.

2. Low Expectations. Girls expectations haven't gone up yet. For college girls, a guy with a professional job, a car, and his own pad is high-status (beats screwing in a smelly crowded dorm right?) It's only when they hit the real world that they start working on that 500 bullet-point checklist.

3. Limited competition. In the big city you're competing with REAL ballers - bankers, athletes, millionaire playboys. In a Podunk college town your competition is... Joe the Plumber and broke college kids. Remember, women are as choosy as their options. Big fish, small pond.

I live in a Podunk town with 3 big campuses within a half hour drive. I'm getting more arse now than any of my boys in the big city - or while I was in college for that matter.

Be a yuppie in a Podunk college town and you're balling.

[rudebwoy]

3. Limited competition. In the big city you're competing with REAL ballers - bankers, athletes, millionaire playboys. In a Podunk college town your competition is... Joe the Plumber and broke college kids. Remember, women are as choosy as their options. Big fish, small pond. "


I am in a Toronto suburb, your description pretty much sums up the city.

[DonovanVC]

(12-15-2010 09:08 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Anyone here from Chicago? I've always been curious about the scene there. More girls in the ratio and the people I've met from there seem more down to earth and unpretentious. Probably a lot more fatties though.

I live in Chicago, but am from L.A.

Chicago Positives

1) Great place to daygame
2) Good variety of girls
3) Lots of young people

Chicago has many minuses though

1) Tons of couples here, its like bf-gf central
2) People always do shit in groups. Hard to find girls not in mixed groups at night. Too many Big-10 College networks
3) Girls have a small reality here. Met so many women who have never even left the midwest, let alone been abroad.
4) Subcultures are too tight. Hipsters dating hipsters, meatheads dating athletic yuppie girls. You rarely see crossover, which I saw and did much more of in L.A.
5) Cold as fuck for 5 months making game a hassle.

I'd say its average difficulty here.

[oldnemesis]

(12-15-2010 09:40 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  

Sure there may be more guys in L.A. but many more of those guys aren't interested in females than in other cities.....if you catch my drift. Nationwide, California has the reputation of being a gay mecca, so these numbers shouldn't be that discouraging. It only states that men outnumber women by about 40,000 in a metro area of around 10 million, thats really insignificant.

There is another factor which is very important for Bay Area - race diversity.

1. There is a significant number of guys from India, and it looks like most of them get zero attention from local women, even fatties. They are, however, mostly not into game at all - typically you only see them in the bar as a group of Indians, and they're not approaching anyone.

2. There is a large Asian (mostly Chinese) population. This is beneficial if you're non-Asian as most Asian chicks would fuck a non-Asian guy (some of them do not even date Asian guys), and I haven't seen a chick yet who'd date only Asian guys.

3. There is also a large Mexican population, but it looks like they only game Latinas. They tend to stay in Latino-catering venues, and tend to stay away from hi-tech chicks.

In short, if you're a white or a black guy, and into white/black/asian chicks, Bay Area may be quite good for you. But if you're Asian, this gonna be tough.

So what is my point, you may ask? My point is that population density alone is a meaningless indicator of your possible success.

[wolf]

Info spot on about cali and chicago.

I do a little something with flakes(that are friends, not women). Before I would call and leave a message saying if they wanted to hang out to give me a call back. Now if I call and they don't answer I make other plans. Or if they call and want to hang out later I tell them to call me later and tell me the place we will hang out at. If they don't call I know we are not hanging out. Sometimes it backfires in their face. They will call every weekend saying we are going to do something and then 3rd weekend they call and I'm busy and they are sol.

Too many options=severe flaking. You'd be surprised how easy it is to get a date in the midwest with no flaking.

[Sirob]

Interesting point oldnemesis. Can you give some reasons why guys from India get zero attention from local women? Are there any specific drawbacks in them or is it more to do with perceptions regarding the country (low value)?

I am an Indian living in switzerland, however I go against the stereotype of typical Indian guys. I stay in shape by working out regularly in the gym, am very well groomed and have a sharp dressing sense. I also move around in the local social circle and read and travel voraciously.

However I do find that whenever I disclose that I come from India, the overall value perception goes down. To counter that, I just lie about being half American and half Spanish. This is quite easy to pull off since many people assume that I am a latino. If someone asks me about my knowledge of spanish, I just state that I grew up in the States and therefore did not get exposed to spanish at all.

p.s. Half American + Half Spanish = Maximum DHV

(12-16-2010 02:45 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(12-15-2010 09:40 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  

Sure there may be more guys in L.A. but many more of those guys aren't interested in females than in other cities.....if you catch my drift. Nationwide, California has the reputation of being a gay mecca, so these numbers shouldn't be that discouraging. It only states that men outnumber women by about 40,000 in a metro area of around 10 million, thats really insignificant.

There is another factor which is very important for Bay Area - race diversity.

1. There is a significant number of guys from India, and it looks like most of them get zero attention from local women, even fatties. They are, however, mostly not into game at all - typically you only see them in the bar as a group of Indians, and they're not approaching anyone.

2. There is a large Asian (mostly Chinese) population. This is beneficial if you're non-Asian as most Asian chicks would fuck a non-Asian guy (some of them do not even date Asian guys), and I haven't seen a chick yet who'd date only Asian guys.

3. There is also a large Mexican population, but it looks like they only game Latinas. They tend to stay in Latino-catering venues, and tend to stay away from hi-tech chicks.

In short, if you're a white or a black guy, and into white/black/asian chicks, Bay Area may be quite good for you. But if you're Asian, this gonna be tough.

So what is my point, you may ask? My point is that population density alone is a meaningless indicator of your possible success.

[MiXX]

@Sirob. Wait a minute, wait just a cotton, picking-minute!!!

Are you saying that light-skin latinos or Mestizos (half white-American/half latino Indian) are DHV in Switzerland?

Why the fuck hasn't anybody mentioned this to me!!!!

Mixx

[Sirob]

Dude, latinos of ANY type are DHV in switzerland as long as they dress sharp and can do some mean Salsa. The chicks fall over them faster than birdshit falls from the skies.

I know so many guys from the original Latino country (Spain) who are on a literal banging spree in my city. These guys have fu*king zero game and yet just the fact that they are latino, dress very well and dance their balls off means that they literally roll in poon.

If you ever wanna come down to switzerland, I can definitely host you at my place. Basel (where I stay) is not that big a city, but I definitely reckon that you will do MAJOR damage in Zurich.

Just two caveats.
1) The swiss girls who go for the latinos are the young ( <30 ), liberal, educated type. Although still a large number, they are a small minority in the overall population.
2) Spring and summer is when the mayhem starts. Things cool down considerably from october onwards and between november and march, the place is dead (except the inner circle parties)

[Moma]

(12-15-2010 10:39 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

3. Limited competition. In the big city you're competing with REAL ballers - bankers, athletes, millionaire playboys. In a Podunk college town your competition is... Joe the Plumber and broke college kids. Remember, women are as choosy as their options. Big fish, small pond. "


I am in a Toronto suburb, your description pretty much sums up the city.

What description is he speaking of do you believe matches? Ballers? And what suburb do you reside in?

[MiXX]

(12-15-2010 09:08 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

I'd be curious to hear Mixx chime in on Miami. While it has the air of pretentiousness like L.A. and all the beautiful people, there are actually more single women there than men. That's pretty interesting. I don't know if the flaking is as bad there as here though.

Miami has lots of beautiful, single women, BUT the problem is finding them to start gaming them. You see, in Miami, or 90% of Florida, you do not see women walking the streets like you would see in NYC, Chicago or D.C. I was in NYC for Thanksgiving, and can approach 50 women in a single day easily form all the women walking and on the subway!

And Public transportation in Miami is very limited, and not reliable, so everyone drives or has a driver - everyone. This totally sucks, because if Miami had a system like NYC, man, this would be a haven for girls from all over the world in a city where it is hot 10 months of the year.

When it cools down, it gets worse. More women are confined to their cars, and houses and wait for temps to rise again. The only places to game are tourists on the beach, and you can identify any tourist during this time of year because they are the only ones on the beach "tanning".

So, street-game is tough unless you sniper the malls, and lower-class latin neighborhoods of Miami and of course, the beaches.

This leaves the unavoidable night-club game venues and Happy Hour spots, sports pubs, Lounges and street fairs of all kinds to game. Now, because of what I described above, you wil find lots of places that are cock-fests. This does not mean that there are no women to be had, it means that venues fill-up with lots of cock in teh same situation you are in...finding women to game not in their cars with the windows rolled-up, and the music blasting.

It does not sound like the pussy paradise the map described, but it does not take into account how accessible those women are outside your social circle.

Another thing, women here have incredibly high bitch shields and attitudes, because even a fatty, average looking woman that's a 5 gets hit on hard by all the immigrant men (especially Cuban men) that arrive here on a daily basis from Cuba and all of South America acting like they never had pussy before.

Now, many players that come here on vacation and short-term visits see South beach, and think it's like this everywhere - it is, but good luck getting a girl to roll down her window and be interested in you before the traffic light turns green outside of south beach as they drive.

So, to avoid all this, what does Mixx do to get pussy in Miami?

I throw parties, I promote private "invitation only" events. I go to after-work happy hour spots (these are the best ones to get laid). Then I hit Fort lauderdale (30 mins from Miami) and game on Brazilian women and Colombianas that frequent these areas. I alos travel a lot, a lot! This opens up many doors for me, and Colomba is only a short 3hr flight away.



Mixx

[Duke Castile]

(12-16-2010 04:15 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(12-15-2010 09:08 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

I'd be curious to hear Mixx chime in on Miami. While it has the air of pretentiousness like L.A. and all the beautiful people, there are actually more single women there than men. That's pretty interesting. I don't know if the flaking is as bad there as here though.

Miami has lots of beautiful, single women, BUT the problem is finding them to start gaming them. You see, in Miami, or 90% of Florida, you do not see women walking the streets like you would see in NYC, Chicago or D.C. I was in NYC for Thanksgiving, and can approach 50 women in a single day easily form all the women walking and on the subway!

And Public transportation in Miami is very limited, and not reliable, so everyone drives or has a driver - everyone. This totally sucks, because if Miami had a system like NYC, man, this would be a haven for girls from all over the world in a city where it is hot 10 months of the year.

When it cools down, it gets worse. More women are confined to their cars, and houses and wait for temps to rise again. The only places to game are tourists on the beach, and you can identify any tourist during this time of year because they are the only ones on the beach "tanning".

So, street-game is tough unless you sniper the malls, and lower-class latin neighborhoods of Miami and of course, the beaches.

This leaves the unavoidable night-club game venues and Happy Hour spots, sports pubs, Lounges and street fairs of all kinds to game. Now, because of what I described above, you wil find lots of places that are cock-fests. This does not mean that there are no women to be had, it means that venues fill-up with lots of cock in teh same situation you are in...finding women to game not in their cars with the windows rolled-up, and the music blasting.

It does not sound like the pussy paradise the map described, but it does not take into account how accessible those women are outside your social circle.

Another thing, women here have incredibly high bitch shields and attitudes, because even a fatty, average looking woman that's a 5 gets hit on hard by all the immigrant men (especially Cuban men) that arrive here on a daily basis from Cuba and all of South America acting like they never had pussy before.

Now, many players that come here on vacation and short-term visits see South beach, and think it's like this everywhere - it is, but good luck getting a girl to roll down her window and be interested in you before the traffic light turns green outside of south beach as they drive.

So, to avoid all this, what does Mixx do to get pussy in Miami?

I throw parties, I promote private "invitation only" events. I go to after-work happy hour spots (these are the best ones to get laid). Then I hit Fort lauderdale (30 mins from Miami) and game on Brazilian women and Colombianas that frequent these areas. I alos travel a lot, a lot! This opens up many doors for me, and Colomba is only a short 3hr flight away.



Mixx

This reminds me of a genius idea I had to get the hottest bitches in all of Columbia and Argentina. Brazil too if I even needed it there.

[subutai]

(12-16-2010 04:11 PM)Sirob Wrote:  

Dude, latinos of ANY type are DHV in switzerland as long as they dress sharp and can do some mean Salsa. The chicks fall over them faster than birdshit falls from the skies.

I know so many guys from the original Latino country (Spain) who are on a literal banging spree in my city. These guys have fu*king zero game and yet just the fact that they are latino, dress very well and dance their balls off means that they literally roll in poon.

If you ever wanna come down to switzerland, I can definitely host you at my place. Basel (where I stay) is not that big a city, but I definitely reckon that you will do MAJOR damage in Zurich.

Just two caveats.
1) The swiss girls who go for the latinos are the young ( <30 ), liberal, educated type. Although still a large number, they are a small minority in the overall population.
2) Spring and summer is when the mayhem starts. Things cool down considerably from october onwards and between november and march, the place is dead (except the inner circle parties)

Any idea what it's like in Lausanne by any chance?

[MiXX]

(12-16-2010 04:11 PM)Sirob Wrote:  

Dude, latinos of ANY type are DHV in switzerland as long as they dress sharp and can do some mean Salsa. The chicks fall over them faster than birdshit falls from the skies.

I don't fucking believe this...NOBODY on this forum has ever mentioned this to me, and I was not aware this was the case in Zurich. I WAS A SALSA DANCE INSTRUCTOR in college for heavens sake, and don't even get me started on my GQ style!

Fuuckk, dude I am happy you posted this, really...I am also furious!!!!

You can bank on me paying you a visit come Spring 2011 on my way to Ukraine.

IN return, I'll teach how to dance Salsa like a latino....

Mixx

[Sirob]

(12-16-2010 04:40 PM)subutai Wrote:  

Any idea what it's like in Lausanne by any chance?

Lausanne falls within the swiss french part of switzerland.This has both pros and cons.

Pros: the people are more relaxed, easygoing and conversation friendly as compared to the swiss german part. there is a general air of bonhomie and friendliness in Lausanne which you will not find in any city in switzerland (except maybe Luzern).

Cons: Even tho people are more relaxed and conversation friendly, they tend to be prudish and sexually conservative (as compared to the swiss germans). Net result is that a lot of women are looking for the "LTR/M" card when they eye you up.

There are 2 significant factors which also influence the scene in lausanne.
1) Its the home of the International Olympic Committee. This means that a lot of expats set up shack over there. Definitely not as much as Zurich, but significant enough to brighten up the social scene. The expat women are easier to game and get into bed. SNLs are not common, however a bang after 2-3 dates is definitely possible.

2) Lausanne first and foremost is a university town. Therefore you will find a lot of very young (20-23) swiss french girls there. Many of them are ripe for the picking. I banged a lovely 20 year old swiss french girl 4 months ago (I daygamed her over the weekend when she was on a visit to see her friends in basel)

In terms of ease of banging in switzerland (atleast from what I have observed over the last 2 years)
1) Zurich
2) Geneva
3) Lausanne
4) Basel
5) Luzern

[Sirob]

Oh man,
Salsa dance instructor + GQ style = fine ass swiss chocolate raining from the skies.

In fact, one of my resolutions for the next year (after I get back from vacation) is to join a Salsa course and take it to the advanced level slowly but surely. I'm pretty sure that your coaching will come in handy big time dude!!

(12-16-2010 04:48 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(12-16-2010 04:11 PM)Sirob Wrote:  

Dude, latinos of ANY type are DHV in switzerland as long as they dress sharp and can do some mean Salsa. The chicks fall over them faster than birdshit falls from the skies.

I don't fucking believe this...NOBODY on this forum has ever mentioned this to me, and I was not aware this was the case in Zurich. I WAS A SALSA DANCE INSTRUCTOR in college for heavens sake, and don't even get me started on my GQ style!

Fuuckk, dude I am happy you posted this, really...I am also furious!!!!

You can bank on me paying you a visit come Spring 2011 on my way to Ukraine.

IN return, I'll teach how to dance Salsa like a latino....

Mixx

[oldnemesis]

(12-16-2010 03:58 PM)Sirob Wrote:  

Interesting point oldnemesis. Can you give some reasons why guys from India get zero attention from local women? Are there any specific drawbacks in them or is it more to do with perceptions regarding the country (low value)?

I don't really know. All the girls I asked about it typically replied with generic answers like "not my type", which is meaningless. Some also mentioned weird smell and lack of hygiene, but this is likely to be traced to specific individuals, and such individuals could be find in any group. The main reason I do not consider girls from India is because I'm not into dark skinned ladies. But this may not be the case with at least some of those chicks as they had black BFs, so I doubt it was about skin color.

Another thing is that Indian community seems to be pretty tight-knot, same as Koreans. I have never seen an Indian dude alone in the bar or club, it is always a group of them, which is typically at least three people.

Quote:

I am an Indian living in switzerland, however I go against the stereotype of typical Indian guys. I stay in shape by working out regularly in the gym, am very well groomed and have a sharp dressing sense. I also move around in the local social circle and read and travel voraciously.

Never seen a fat Indian guy yet, all Indian guys I see around are in shape. Some actually look anorexic. Most are well groomed, and dressed good - typically shirt and pants.

Quote:

However I do find that whenever I disclose that I come from India, the overall value perception goes down.

How many non-white people are there in Switzerland?
My impression so far is that non-white people do much better in countries which have a large mono race population, assuming you're not from that race. The more non-white people around, the harder it seems to be. I've seen it in Thailand as well. Try Russia.

[rudebwoy]

(12-16-2010 04:14 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(12-15-2010 10:39 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

3. Limited competition. In the big city you're competing with REAL ballers - bankers, athletes, millionaire playboys. In a Podunk college town your competition is... Joe the Plumber and broke college kids. Remember, women are as choosy as their options. Big fish, small pond. "


I am in a Toronto suburb, your description pretty much sums up the city.

What description is he speaking of do you believe matches? Ballers? And what suburb do you reside in?

Yes sort of, I guess like any other major city there are rich dudes and ballers. I am not into the whole club scene, with bottle service crap and door policy (even though I always can bypass it). I am out in Oakville and tend to like hanging out in my area.
Oh and the post about Toronto is spot on in my book, yes we have loads of nice girls but they are tough.
Where are you at Moma?

[InternationPlayboy]

(12-16-2010 04:15 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(12-15-2010 09:08 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

I'd be curious to hear Mixx chime in on Miami. While it has the air of pretentiousness like L.A. and all the beautiful people, there are actually more single women there than men. That's pretty interesting. I don't know if the flaking is as bad there as here though.

Miami has lots of beautiful, single women, BUT the problem is finding them to start gaming them. You see, in Miami, or 90% of Florida, you do not see women walking the streets like you would see in NYC, Chicago or D.C. I was in NYC for Thanksgiving, and can approach 50 women in a single day easily form all the women walking and on the subway!

And Public transportation in Miami is very limited, and not reliable, so everyone drives or has a driver - everyone. This totally sucks, because if Miami had a system like NYC, man, this would be a haven for girls from all over the world in a city where it is hot 10 months of the year.

When it cools down, it gets worse. More women are confined to their cars, and houses and wait for temps to rise again. The only places to game are tourists on the beach, and you can identify any tourist during this time of year because they are the only ones on the beach "tanning".

So, street-game is tough unless you sniper the malls, and lower-class latin neighborhoods of Miami and of course, the beaches.

This leaves the unavoidable night-club game venues and Happy Hour spots, sports pubs, Lounges and street fairs of all kinds to game. Now, because of what I described above, you wil find lots of places that are cock-fests. This does not mean that there are no women to be had, it means that venues fill-up with lots of cock in teh same situation you are in...finding women to game not in their cars with the windows rolled-up, and the music blasting.

It does not sound like the pussy paradise the map described, but it does not take into account how accessible those women are outside your social circle.

Another thing, women here have incredibly high bitch shields and attitudes, because even a fatty, average looking woman that's a 5 gets hit on hard by all the immigrant men (especially Cuban men) that arrive here on a daily basis from Cuba and all of South America acting like they never had pussy before.

Now, many players that come here on vacation and short-term visits see South beach, and think it's like this everywhere - it is, but good luck getting a girl to roll down her window and be interested in you before the traffic light turns green outside of south beach as they drive.

So, to avoid all this, what does Mixx do to get pussy in Miami?

I throw parties, I promote private "invitation only" events. I go to after-work happy hour spots (these are the best ones to get laid). Then I hit Fort lauderdale (30 mins from Miami) and game on Brazilian women and Colombianas that frequent these areas. I alos travel a lot, a lot! This opens up many doors for me, and Colomba is only a short 3hr flight away.



Mixx

This does seem pretty accurate. Especially about girls not coming out when it's cold outside. And the Cuban guys hitting on any fatty that walks by. All the foreign dudes I work with will ask me why I'm not going after so and so at work. I say, "Because she isn't attractive to me." And they come back with, "It's just to fuck around, it's not like you're gonna marry her." Then I show them pictures of the girls I'm working on or have already banged and they understand. But it seems like many men out here would bang just about any wale on the beach. One thing though that you kind pointed out was that in South Beach there are plenty of spots to daygame. But the weather has to be right. There's the beach, lincoln rd. all the bars with happy hour specials, and just lots of people walking around period some days. I feel the beach has some potential. Also some spots in Brickel. There are spots here and there I could see day game working in Miami. But at the same time I still haven't gotten to see much of Miami. I'm still kinda stuck here on the beach. But now I'm bankin' it, so I should have a car by Janurary.

Side note, it looks like it's saying there are way moer men in Vegas, it definitely doesn't seem that way at all. There are mad fly women all over the place in Vegas.

Where I lived in Colorado wasn't great, and all of Colorado in general seems to have many more men than women. The best place I saw was Boulder. Aspen is decent though. You have pretty good quality, but you gotta day game because some of the real hotties don't really come out at night. Aspen is a great place to daygame. People walking all over. There are always more pedestrians in town than cars.

[Moma]

(12-15-2010 10:39 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Yes sort of, I guess like any other major city there are rich dudes and ballers. I am not into the whole club scene, with bottle service crap and door policy (even though I always can bypass it). I am out in Oakville and tend to like hanging out in my area.
Oh and the post about Toronto is spot on in my book, yes we have loads of nice girls but they are tough.
Where are you at Moma?

Smack dab in the centre of Toronto. Yonge.

[cellblock4]

NYC can be a goldmine. There are so many single women just wanting to get a date with a decent guy, it's ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, you do get cold dismissive bitches here and you have to have thick skin, but I think most of them just have that bitch shield up until you defrost em. I haven't tried daygame, but that might keep the guards down a bit more. I'm from Socal so I still think in terms of quality, SoCal and Miami top NYC, but the numbers are in your favor here so I think that makes up for it. You do have competition from the banker ballers but even then, there's enough to go around. Mixx definitely took advantage of NYC. It was unfortunate I was unable to join him in action.

[CJ]

Well with Detroit a lot of those single women are really... fat. Now this does concern me about my potential move to LA, but I'd have to wager a lot of those single dudes are in West Hollywood, and not going to be infringing on the available women (not that there's anything wrong with that). Plus there's so many damn people there that the numbers are misleading if you break them down to a % of single men vs single women.