[Mojorisin808]

Nice post. Thanks.

But...why bring sand to the beach...He should've left the American wife back in the US, and get himself a small harem of ticas.

[Menace]

I dunno why you guys are hating on his wife. Not everyone is an international playboy. She seems supportive, and her body is great (now); very slim. Sure her face is nothing special, but it's okay. Sometimes a girl that's only a 6 can just really do it for you.

[jimukr104]

True but the only reason to go 3rd world is to get chicks!

[Baldwin81]

Thank you for posting this, JayMillz.

The juxtaposition between the couple and the relative back home tells the whole story.

[Capitán Peligroso]

(12-20-2013 03:32 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:  

True but the only reason to go 3rd world is to get chicks!

Costa Rica has a lot of good reasons to visit other than the women, who are, in my experience, underrated. I'm not talking about the granola US expat types, but the ones that you'll need Spanish to game.

[Christian McQueen]

Despite his 'Alpha' physical presence, he seems more beta, which is fine if it works for him.

That being said dude looks entirely different then when he was in the states. He went from Pillbury Doughboy to Vin Diesel.

Just goes to show what the damn rat race, bad diet and keeping up with the Jones's does to you.

[buja]

(12-20-2013 02:39 PM)Menace Wrote:  

I dunno why you guys are hating on his wife. Not everyone is an international playboy. She seems supportive, and her body is great (now); very slim. Sure her face is nothing special, but it's okay. Sometimes a girl that's only a 6 can just really do it for you.

Yeah, he could get a Tica woman like with a large muffin top like the vegetable vendor at 12:18.

I was surprised how many muffin topped women of all ages there were all over CR.

[BadWolf]

We should all buy a $10,000 house in Mexico and sort of live next to each other... we could create a red pill community.

[WanderingSoul]

(12-20-2013 02:39 PM)Menace Wrote:  

I dunno why you guys are hating on his wife. Not everyone is an international playboy. She seems supportive, and her body is great (now); very slim. Sure her face is nothing special, but it's okay. Sometimes a girl that's only a 6 can just really do it for you.

Id fuck her. She's 37, right? Looks pretty good compared to most American 37 year old chicks. She also has crazy eyes. I get the feeling they are involved in those expat swingers groups. Good for them.

(12-21-2013 07:56 AM)BadWolf Wrote:  

We should all buy a $10,000 house in Mexico and sort of live next to each other... we could create a red pill community.

Would be pretty sweet. Instant social circle and chicks would be fighting at the chance to come party at the RVF compound. 5 bungalows and a big ass pool and bar in the middle.

TheDude could grill up some steaks. Fisto could work security. Ali could get drunk and puke in the pool. Good times.

[JayMillz]

Obviously, it doesn't have to be CR and you don't have to be married.

[JayMillz]

[JayMillz]

(12-19-2013 11:36 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Panama, where it's not as gringoed out as CR, you have international banks and other amenities for doing business. Panama City has amazing infrastructure to live a nice expat lifestyle.

[kavakid]

I've lived more or less like that couple most of my life.

Truth is that its a state of mind and a lifestyle, rather than a physical place. You can live in the US and save money, while also being zen and avoiding stress. While its great if you want to go live on the beach, don't think that its the only way to happiness, or that it is guaranteed to bring happiness.

As for his old lady, I'd say she gets 1 point for being cool and low maintenance. AND she earns money. Which makes her a 7 at least. If they are swingin then he's in a good position. I'd take a cool gringa over a gold diggin visa chaser any day.

[JayMillz]

(12-21-2013 12:38 PM)kavakid Wrote:  

Truth is that its a state of mind and a lifestyle, rather than a physical place.

Trading the North American rat race and the associated, endless chase for the newest toy - for a life of peace, tranquility and gorgeous weather in a country filled with happy people whose passion for life transcends their everyday poverty can only help. Put that with getting much more bang for your buck and being in an environment more conducive to a healthy lifestyle - and this doesn't even address the numerous opportunities that we would all enjoy when it comes to chics, if you pick the right location - sometimes physically putting yourself in a good place, perhaps a needed change, enhances everything else.

[Hencredible Casanova]

[JayMillz]

Never been impressed with this gay dude's vids. I don't discount everything he says, but his approach and lifestyle are not necessarily how I would do things. He does know his world or version of CR.

(12-21-2013 09:19 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

[Tail Gunner]

(12-21-2013 09:58 PM)JayMillz Wrote:  

Never been impressed with this gay dude's vids. I don't discount everything he says, but his approach and lifestyle are not necessarily how I would do things. He does know his world or version of CR.

I agree with most of his points, except for not describing yourself as an American. That is one of the most dumb-ass arguments that I have ever heard -- and not entitled to even a modicum of respect.

When they re-name their countries the Costa Rican Republic of America or the Mexican Republic of America, then they can make that argument. Even then, the U.S.A. has had its designation for over 200 years. So, we are first in time -- and therefore entitled to call ourselves "Americans."

If someone said that to me, I would simply point out the utter lack of logic in the argument. It is simply a way to make trouble and to stick a thumb into someone's eye trying to play the victim. I'll have no part in that.

[kavakid]

(12-21-2013 07:25 PM)JayMillz Wrote:  

(12-21-2013 12:38 PM)kavakid Wrote:  

Truth is that its a state of mind and a lifestyle, rather than a physical place.

Trading the North American rat race and the associated, endless chase for the newest toy - for a life of peace, tranquility and gorgeous weather in a country filled with happy people whose passion for life transcends their everyday poverty can only help. Put that with getting much more bang for your buck and being in an environment more conducive to a healthy lifestyle - and this doesn't even address the numerous opportunities that we would all enjoy when it comes to chics, if you pick the right location - sometimes physically putting yourself in a good place, perhaps a needed change, enhances everything else.

In developing countries the "rat race" exists just as much. Except they are chasing enough food to eat and a roof over their head. I don't think people are neccesarily happier either. In DR for example, those that have a job work 6 days a week, often 10 or more hours a day. People don't seem happier. In fact, they often seem miserable about their pathetic pay. But at least almost no one is lonely like in the US. But part of that is because most of them don't have their own room to themselves.

In the US its possible to have peace and tranquility if you make the effort. In the DR, earning $7.25 an hour is a damn good middle class job. You can earn that in a "peaceful" rural town in the US (I have done it) and be pretty chill.

Well, speaking as someone who actually has years of experience living a very simple lifestyle (1 year living in organic farming hostels in Hawaii, 1 year of same in Spain, 1 year of same in California, various amounts of time in other states, 1 year in latin countries (mexico and DR) let me say that having modest expecations actually INCREASES your results and success rate.

In my experience, the people who do something because it is who they are (or strive to be) usually get what they desire. (versus the ones who do it because they think it will fix them and their life, without them putting in any work). In other words thinking moving to a new place is like taking a pill, effortless. Its not.

All I am saying is that you can change your life this exact moment. Then any lifestyle change is an extension of your new attitude. This will lead many people to travel and change their physical location. But its part of a complete package.

Traveling to another country for a few weeks is one thing. Actually living there and dealing with a whole new set of problems is the reality. Does that mean its not worth it? No, it just means each person should really evaluate where they are in their life and if they really need such a drastic action to be happier. Having said that, if you are really up to the challenge, and seek adventure, go for it!

[Hencredible Casanova]

(12-21-2013 10:47 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  

I agree with most of his points, except for not describing yourself as an American. That is one of the most dumb-ass arguments that I have ever heard -- and not entitled to even a modicum of respect.

When they re-name their countries the Costa Rican Republic of America or the Mexican Republic of America, then they can make that argument. Even then, the U.S.A. has had its designation for over 200 years. So, we are first in time -- and therefore entitled to call ourselves "Americans."

If someone said that to me, I would simply point out the utter lack of logic in the argument. It is simply a way to make trouble and to stick a thumb into someone's eye trying to play the victim. I'll have no part in that.

I had a Spanish teacher when I was in Panama who memorably called me out on this. She was asking me where I was from and I answered "America." You could see the expression on her face change immediately. She then went into some explanation about how all people who live in the Americas are Americans (North Americans, Central Americans, South Americans). She said the correct answer for me would have been "Estados Unidos." But I objected by saying that not only does the rest of the world refer to only people from the US as being Americans, but even Latin Americans use the term "Americanos" exclusively to describe people from the US. If they are talking about Mexicans, they don't call them Americanos, they call them Mexicanos. This goes for every Latin American country (Dominicano, Colombiano, Peruano, Brasileiro, Panemeno, etc). But it is what it is. I don't give a fuck.

http://www.usaisnotamerica.com/index.html

[jimukr104]

(12-22-2013 10:25 AM)kavakid Wrote:  

(12-21-2013 07:25 PM)JayMillz Wrote:  

(12-21-2013 12:38 PM)kavakid Wrote:  

Truth is that its a state of mind and a lifestyle, rather than a physical place.

Trading the North American rat race and the associated, endless chase for the newest toy - for a life of peace, tranquility and gorgeous weather in a country filled with happy people whose passion for life transcends their everyday poverty can only help. Put that with getting much more bang for your buck and being in an environment more conducive to a healthy lifestyle - and this doesn't even address the numerous opportunities that we would all enjoy when it comes to chics, if you pick the right location - sometimes physically putting yourself in a good place, perhaps a needed change, enhances everything else.

In developing countries the "rat race" exists just as much. Except they are chasing enough food to eat and a roof over their head. I don't think people are neccesarily happier either. In DR for example, those that have a job work 6 days a week, often 10 or more hours a day. People don't seem happier. In fact, they often seem miserable about their pathetic pay. But at least almost no one is lonely like in the US. But part of that is because most of them don't have their own room to themselves.

In the US its possible to have peace and tranquility if you make the effort. In the DR, earning $7.25 an hour is a damn good middle class job. You can earn that in a "peaceful" rural town in the US (I have done it) and be pretty chill.

Well, speaking as someone who actually has years of experience living a very simple lifestyle (1 year living in organic farming hostels in Hawaii, 1 year of same in Spain, 1 year of same in California, various amounts of time in other states, 1 year in latin countries (mexico and DR) let me say that having modest expecations actually INCREASES your results and success rate.

In my experience, the people who do something because it is who they are (or strive to be) usually get what they desire. (versus the ones who do it because they think it will fix them and their life, without them putting in any work). In other words thinking moving to a new place is like taking a pill, effortless. Its not.

All I am saying is that you can change your life this exact moment. Then any lifestyle change is an extension of your new attitude. This will lead many people to travel and change their physical location. But its part of a complete package.

Traveling to another country for a few weeks is one thing. Actually living there and dealing with a whole new set of problems is the reality. Does that mean its not worth it? No, it just means each person should really evaluate where they are in their life and if they really need such a drastic action to be happier. Having said that, if you are really up to the challenge, and seek adventure, go for it!

Exactly.....most westerners would be unhappy making local wages. Leets see how many FSU girls guys get if they make the local salary or DR girls or whomever.

[Hencredible Casanova]

(12-22-2013 11:50 AM)jimukr104 Wrote:  

(12-22-2013 10:25 AM)kavakid Wrote:  

(12-21-2013 07:25 PM)JayMillz Wrote:  

(12-21-2013 12:38 PM)kavakid Wrote:  

Truth is that its a state of mind and a lifestyle, rather than a physical place.

Trading the North American rat race and the associated, endless chase for the newest toy - for a life of peace, tranquility and gorgeous weather in a country filled with happy people whose passion for life transcends their everyday poverty can only help. Put that with getting much more bang for your buck and being in an environment more conducive to a healthy lifestyle - and this doesn't even address the numerous opportunities that we would all enjoy when it comes to chics, if you pick the right location - sometimes physically putting yourself in a good place, perhaps a needed change, enhances everything else.

In developing countries the "rat race" exists just as much. Except they are chasing enough food to eat and a roof over their head. I don't think people are neccesarily happier either. In DR for example, those that have a job work 6 days a week, often 10 or more hours a day. People don't seem happier. In fact, they often seem miserable about their pathetic pay. But at least almost no one is lonely like in the US. But part of that is because most of them don't have their own room to themselves.

In the US its possible to have peace and tranquility if you make the effort. In the DR, earning $7.25 an hour is a damn good middle class job. You can earn that in a "peaceful" rural town in the US (I have done it) and be pretty chill.

Well, speaking as someone who actually has years of experience living a very simple lifestyle (1 year living in organic farming hostels in Hawaii, 1 year of same in Spain, 1 year of same in California, various amounts of time in other states, 1 year in latin countries (mexico and DR) let me say that having modest expecations actually INCREASES your results and success rate.

In my experience, the people who do something because it is who they are (or strive to be) usually get what they desire. (versus the ones who do it because they think it will fix them and their life, without them putting in any work). In other words thinking moving to a new place is like taking a pill, effortless. Its not.

All I am saying is that you can change your life this exact moment. Then any lifestyle change is an extension of your new attitude. This will lead many people to travel and change their physical location. But its part of a complete package.

Traveling to another country for a few weeks is one thing. Actually living there and dealing with a whole new set of problems is the reality. Does that mean its not worth it? No, it just means each person should really evaluate where they are in their life and if they really need such a drastic action to be happier. Having said that, if you are really up to the challenge, and seek adventure, go for it!

Exactly.....most westerners would be unhappy making local wages. Leets see how many FSU girls guys get if they make the local salary or DR girls or whomever.

This is why I never hate on America like many other expats who go to developing countries to live the life. I would never have the means to enjoy life abroad had I not earned my keep in the US. Try living it up overseas on local wages. Tell me how that works out.

[kavakid]

However, if you bring a decent business sense to the developing world you can probably do pretty well, or even make a killing. A lot of people are broke in the DR for the same reason some people are poor in the US: they are stupid, act stupid, don't know how to run a business, and spend every last penny on overpriced colmado food and presidentes.

But even the educated middle class here doesn't seem to make much. Really I think the small to large business owners are the ones doing well. There was a tiny dingy colmado in Bavaro that almost 100% of the time had a line. I would love to buy ownership in that place. I bet that guy is far richer than I am.

[JayMillz]

(12-22-2013 12:24 PM)kavakid Wrote:  

However, if you bring a decent business sense to the developing world you can probably do pretty well, or even make a killing.

The thing I've taken away from other people is that a primary reason they leave is to pursue their passions. If they can make money doing it, that is great but the objective is happiness not money. For most people, the way to net 1 million in a 3rd world country is to go there with 2 million.

There are many countries to chose from so the idea is to chose a country or countries that enhance your life. The internet has given some people the ability to become location independent, which might serve a similar purpose if they do it the right way.

[Valhalla]

What happens when their money runs out

[JayMillz]

(12-22-2013 02:43 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  

What happens when their money runs out

When you leave your comfort zone there are risks involved. The couple in the first vid had a plan which was to live on a budget. They were 37 when they left, which is still pretty young. Whatever and wherever you decide to go, make sure you have a plan. The guy in the vid teaching in Panama talked about how he has to make an adjustment and get more money in from the "outside" to continue to pursue his passion of teaching.

I can only speak for myself. I've been a hustler all my life, whether it was on the street or in corporate America. I always knew how to make money when I needed it. I've never been beneath doing what I had to do to survive and thrive. That being said, I wouldn't knowingly move to paradise with the intention of being in a worst situation than I was back home.

One key thing I took away from these videos is the fact that they are living in poor countries, but, instead of complaining about how stupid the locals are (at least not on camera), they learn from the locals. The first couple talked about how they learned to save on transportation costs by using a moto like the locals. The guy in Panama who teaches ate fish he caught for thirty something days at a time. Make smart decisions like not spending $7 on peanut butter when you have a budget. If you are a smart guy, you can make it happen.

I know young guys that have moved over seas and are living and eating good because they worked out deals like the couple house sitting that house for $150 a month. My buddy, for example, lives in a 4 star hotel on the ocean and eats quality steak, lobster and fish everyday because he found a marketing niche for himself with the hotel. And he is somewhere where there is unlimited pussy available.

All that being said, if you find yourself in a situation where you can't survive, you need to make whatever adjustment and in some cases that might mean heading back to your comfort zone or what you know. But, in the back of your mind you know what those two beer makers said - a fucked up in day in paradise beats a great day at the office back home - if that is your mentality, you will probably find a way to make it.