[Only One Man]

(12-05-2013 03:21 PM)scotian Wrote:  

Have any of you white guys ever considered procreating with a well built black chick for the sole purpose of breeding a potential athlete?

You have any idea how many times I've had that conversation?

[MHaes]

I don't get what the point is of saying "Yeah if black kids had more money they would be destroying hockey."

I could just as easily say "Yeah if white kids had more testosterone they would be destroying football."

The point is, testosterone or money, both are advantages and obviously someone who has both is going to be better at sports where only one of those advantages is required to get good.

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But yeah, I grew up playing hockey, and I'm with el mech/McQueen on this one.

[El_Superbeasto]

Being a good sprinter or jumper has more to do with body type than race. Things like long legs, high center of gravity, long achilles tendons, high calf attachments, large upper thigh/glutes give you a mechanical advantage. It's just that this body type tends to be more common in black guys. If you look at this picture of Steve Nash, you'll notice that his body type is much closer to Victor Oladipo than Michael Phelps or an olympic wrestler.

[Texas_Tryhard]

(12-05-2013 03:00 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 02:54 PM)cardguy Wrote:  

Anyone else wonder how a message to G about sending him a PM became a race thread? :-)

The OP did this by design. One month ban.

Haha I don't think I can work that much magic >_<

Making a new thread: Mind-control race-bait game.

[el mechanico]

About Hockey..

It's on ice. Ice is cold.

[Giovonny]

(12-05-2013 04:52 PM)El_Superbeasto Wrote:  

Steve Nash

Steve Nash is actually not a great raw athlete. (Compared to most NBA layers)

He doesn't run fast or jump high or have great physical strength.

He dominates with his mind and his technical skill.

He knows how to use your own power/speed against you.

He is the White Ninja of Basketball!

[scorpion]

I think this is proof that every thread, no matter how seemingly unrelated or innocuous, will eventually devolve into a race thread.

[Texas_Tryhard]

That or someone will be accused of being Hitler.

[Merenguero]

I was stuck in a jury trial all day and this happened. This thread started out about The G Manifesto and I think it ended up being about black guys playing hockey.

[Texas_Tryhard]

Yeah, I already sent gman my email, so honestly I think this is a solid candidate for a closed thread >_> I assume I can't close it myself?

[Timoteo]

(12-05-2013 02:17 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 01:44 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

But LOL if people think the best tennis players are naturally white

Guess where Venus and Serena Williams are from???

Answer: Compton

(12-05-2013 02:10 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Just name one sport that everyone can play from 5 years old and up that is not dominated by black dudes.

Golf???

Richard Williams is a bit of a nut (I mean that in the most endearing sense) who loved tennis, and decided his two youngest daughters were going to be tennis players. Actually, according to Serena's book, ALL of the girls played, but the older ones abandoned the game, while the two youngest kept playing. He didn't necessarily MAKE them play, but while training them he kept it fun. Most wouldn't want to try to play on cracked public courts - if they can't afford the decent places to play or equipment, they won't play at all.

[Timoteo]

The top pick, or one of the top picks in the last NHL draft was Seth Jones, son of former NBA player and current assistant Popeye Jones. And yes, he's black. When Popeye played for the Mavericks (Dallas), he struck up friendships with Dallas Stars players when his kids started showing interest in the sport. They were able to play because their dad made NBA money, and they had access and someone to motivate and mentor them in the sport, also through their dad. That makes all the difference. There's no sport black kids can't play if they have access/resources. Canadian blacks play the game if they live in areas where it's popular, and if that's what their friends play. "Black Ice: The Lost History of the Colored Hockey League of the Maritimes, 1895-1925" by George and Darril Fosty, is a history of blacks playing the game in Canada, and much of the style of the modern game came from how they played. Scott Gomez, who is of Mexican descent, grew up in Canada because the dad moved the family up there for work. Up there, kids skate on frozen ponds and lakes, and can get hold of second-hand equipment and play.

[Timoteo]

(12-05-2013 01:50 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

^ it's not theory. Also some of the best players don't even make it out of the hood because they get tied up in gangs.

Go watch the Olympics. Who is in the sprinting events. Who is winning the jumping events...

Yeah okay now go tell me what skills are needed for 99% of sports... You'll quickly see it's a class issue.

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Now go watch the "Winter Olympics" gee how come there are no black dudes. Lol never had a chance to ski. Don't waste my time telling me a black dude can't out jump a white dude. It's just class. Hell there was a movie about this "white men can't jump" ha!

Shani Davis is black, and is a top USA speed skater, in the distance events, while Apolo Ohno dominates the shorter, fast track events. Shani is definitely the exception though...

[Timoteo]

(12-05-2013 02:05 PM)Texas_Tryhard Wrote:  

Look at my name man.

Anyway, there's a training camp in Colorado that athletes go to for precisely this reason. And I'm definitely willing to accept that increased oxygen carrying capacity might have also been genetically selected for in the black population before they were yanked from Africa to come here, I just don't know of any proof of this.

All Africans/blacks don't possess this. Those that live in places of high altitude do however. Just like Sherpas and others born in places of high altitude, they have evolved and are born possessing the ability to process oxygen at high altitude. I'm sure certain Peruvians possess this trait also. Other athletes try to get the body to do this by training at high altitude, so when they return to sea level the body will have better stamina with the greater abundance of oxygen. It's less racial, and more environmental.

[Jaydublin]

(12-05-2013 03:21 PM)scotian Wrote:  

Have any of you white guys ever considered procreating with a well built black chick for the sole purpose of breeding a potential athlete?

I don't consider race so much but I'm always on the look out for breeder bitches.... got some giant bitch down here in Mexico I recently made friends with..... She will definitely be easy but I'm not sure I want to sacrifice my body for giant offspring.

[kosko]

(12-05-2013 06:09 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 01:50 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

^ it's not theory. Also some of the best players don't even make it out of the hood because they get tied up in gangs.

Go watch the Olympics. Who is in the sprinting events. Who is winning the jumping events...

Yeah okay now go tell me what skills are needed for 99% of sports... You'll quickly see it's a class issue.

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Now go watch the "Winter Olympics" gee how come there are no black dudes. Lol never had a chance to ski. Don't waste my time telling me a black dude can't out jump a white dude. It's just class. Hell there was a movie about this "white men can't jump" ha!

Shani Davis is black, and is a top USA speed skater, in the distance events, while Apolo Ohno dominates the shorter, fast track events. Shani is definitely the exception though...

Speed Skating isn't a traditional "winter sport" If your a fast guy you will excel at it. I did Speed Skating as a kid and picked it up quickly from a background in Track. It was to $$$ and my legs got really sore from it, I kept with football, baseball, and track.

The only traditional winter sport where skillets from a genetic background will help you is on the slopes. Everything else is just a access and resource issue. If Peru took skiing serious they would probably produce some of the best skiers on earth.

For lung capacity and ability to tolerate high altitudes this would be Eastern Africans, and mostly Ethiopians and Kenyans whom have the highest altitudes regions in Africa.

They don't ski though, its too warm as a equator based region, but they with the extra lung capacity and also muscle composition from the legs means they can produce some of the best distance runners on earth.

[Texas_Tryhard]

Jesus...

[Hencredible Casanova]

It's a combination of genetics and environment. East African runners (Ethiopians, Kenyans) live in high altitude environments. They also have slow twitch muscle fibers which, unlike fast twitch fibers, have plenty of stamina at the expense of speed and explosiveness. That's why you find them in distance races as opposed to sprinting events.

You're not going to find folks from that part of Africa in the NFL draft, even if they grew up in the US. They simply won't be able to clock a 4.5 40 yd dash or 40+ inch vertical. Not in the genes.

Also, Ecuadorians/Peruvians from high altitude environments compete well in long distance races against East Africans.

On the contrary, West Africans and their descendants (African-Americans and blacks elsewhere in the Americas) are the fastest humans on earth. Higher levels of T and a preponderance of fast twitch muscle fibers, which do not endure as long as slow twitch fibers but are given to speed and explosiveness.

It's not just African-Americans and Caribbean/Latin American blacks, but West Africans who are also extremely athletic.

There's a very high percentage of Nigerians in the NFL relative to their population in the US. The LB for the Skins for example, Brian Orakpo, is the product of Nigerian immigrant parents. He put up craaaazy stats in his NFL combine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Orakpo#NFL_Combine

He's a dime a dozen back in Nigeria. Other parts of West Africa have similar athletes. I once saw that dude Dhani Jones (former NFL player) on an episode of his travel show "Dhani Takes Over The Globe" where he went to Senegal and competed against a random group of dudes in a sprint. The premise of his show is to go to different countries and compete with locals in a sport unique to their culture. This is a guy who played in the NFL yet there were quite a few dudes quicker than him in that segment from Senegal.

I'm sure if there was a track culture in West Africa like there is in Jamaica they would have no problem producing top sprinters.

If you look at African representation in any World Cup tournament, it's usually entirely made up of West African countries (i.e. Ghana, Nigeria, Cameroon, Cote D'ivoire, etc); with the except of the South African WC since SA hosted it and the host team always has a slot.

[Hotwheels]

This thread.

[kosko]

(12-05-2013 06:41 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

It's a combination of genetics and environment. East African runners (Ethiopians, Kenyans) live in high altitude environments. They also have slow twitch muscle fibers which, unlike fast twitch fibers, have plenty of stamina at the expense of speed and explosiveness. That's why you find them in distance races as opposed to sprinting events.

You're not going to find folks from that part of Africa in the NFL draft, even if they grew up in the US. They simply won't be able to clock a 4.5 40 yd dash or 40+ inch vertical. Not in the genes.

Also, Ecuadorians/Peruvians from high altitude environments compete well in long distance races against East Africans.

On the contrary, West Africans and their descendants (African-Americans and blacks elsewhere in the Americas) are the fastest humans on earth. Higher levels of T and a preponderance of fast twitch muscle fibers, which do not endure as long as slow twitch fibers but are given to speed and explosiveness.

It's not just African-Americans and Caribbean/Latin American blacks, but West Africans who are also extremely athletic.

There's a very high percentage of Nigerians in the NFL relative to their population in the US. The LB for the Skins for example, Brian Orakpo, is the product of Nigerian immigrant parents. He put up craaaazy stats in his NFL combine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Orakpo#NFL_Combine

He's a dime a dozen back in Nigeria. Other parts of West Africa have similar athletes. I once saw that dude Dhani Jones (former NFL player) on an episode of his travel show "Dhani Takes Over The Globe" where he went to Senegal and competed against a random group of dudes in a sprint. The premise of his show is to go to different countries and compete with locals in a sport unique to their culture. This is a guy who played in the NFL yet there were quite a few dudes quicker than him in that segment from Senegal.

I'm sure if there was a track culture in West Africa like there is in Jamaica they would have no problem producing top sprinters.

If you look at African representation in any World Cup tournament, it's usually entirely made up of West African countries (i.e. Ghana, Nigeria, Cameroon, Cote D'ivoire, etc); with the except of the South African WC since SA hosted it and the host team always has a slot.

Soccer isn't automatic to assume this. I mentioned earlier tat every group of people can field a good soccer team you just have to invest in it.

The thing with Africa soccer is that only like 7 teams actually take it seriously and for many decades Egypt owned the CAF (African Soccer Federation) Championships. Nigeria would just for years try and show up and do its thing but now has taken a serious approach to development since countries such as Ivory Coast and Senegal have caught up.

For other nations they don't really put the resources in. In Kenya they are wining every medal in distance and will take care of any athlete whom is elite very very well. Kids there probably just play soccer for fun and all focus on trying to do distance because of the opportunities it offers.

Its just like Baseball in the Dominican. I am sure the DR could have football players, basketball players, and a decent soccer team but they don't give a fuck about anything else but Baseball down there and pump 90% of the resources into it.

The Europe bias of soccer is that it is simply invested in more but now as other regions of the world are taking their programs serious in like 10 years the World Cup is going to be fucking amazing as each regions of the globe is going to be putting up contenders each tourney.

[OSL]

Thanks for the rep point G manifesto.

I was also trying to message you but your box is full.

[El_Superbeasto]

(12-05-2013 05:38 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Steve Nash is actually not a great raw athlete. (Compared to most NBA layers)

He doesn't run fast or jump high or have great physical strength.

He dominates with his mind and his technical skill.

He knows how to use your own power/speed against you.

He is the White Ninja of Basketball!

I'd say that he's not the greatest athlete at in the NBA, but at that level all those guys are considered elite athletes. Even the most unathletic bench warmer would smash on a normal guy. Here's a video of Brian Scalabrine smashing on three guys in succession: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYsrDDfaF38

But yeah, Steve Nash was a fucking magician with the ball.

[Intl_Rasta]

This thread reminds me of Jimmy The Greek comment that got him fired back in the 80s


"The black is a better athlete to begin with because he's been bred to be that way, because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back, and they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs and he's bred to be the better athlete because this goes back all the way to the Civil War when during the slave trade … the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have a big black kid "

Could not find the video but its starts at 1:30 in this

Patrice was funny as hell in this.

[MidniteSpecial]

I want to have kids with a black girl.

[thegmanifesto]

Wait.

What's the question?