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12-01-2013, 03:44 PM
[/quote]Show me the evidence that these young guys who aren't getting laid are causing a lot of violence? There are a lot of sexually frustrated young beta white guys in America and they aren't causing violence......}
The sexually furstrated white guys:
-join the military
-join the police
-join Corrections
-Homeland Security
-NSA
-FBI
-Marshals
-Customs and Border
--etc....................
these guy go to "WAR" - in military - paramilitary orgs.: War against: Terror, Drugs, Illegals, Domestic Dissidents, Negroes, etc.....
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12-01-2013, 04:29 PM
It seems that there is a fundamental split in the manosphere between the angry betas, who make up the ranks of the MRAs, and the more libertine game types.
Personally, I don't have much sympathy for the bitter beta types. They are like feminists in that they expect society to be completely structured to give them what they want. That's not the way the world works. Sorry.
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12-01-2013, 04:31 PM
A lot time spent in uniform isn't spent going to 'WAR' or anything exciting it's doing things you don't want to do like cleaning buildings and equipment, picking up trash, CQ duty, sitting around and waiting, etc. A guy would have more time to chase poosy if he didn't join one of those organizations.
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The often conscious but largely subconscious drive for people who join is for
-belonging, status, power, value, which males typically want in order to improve their reproductive success (SEX) or as a way to channel such drives in a societally acceptable manner.
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12-01-2013, 04:38 PM
I think the rage comes from feelings of powerlessness. That comes in three forms: sexual, social, and economic.
The sexual aspect has been covered here. The social element is why guys like Sodini exist: they can get laid through hookers, but that doesn't help them fit in. And the economic arena is why you see guys in the city shooting it up even though they're getting pussy left and right.
Feminism has ratcheted up the frustration up to dysfunctional levels on all three fronts.
1). In terms of sexuality, sexual freedom only freed up a few. Because of that, it created an uneven playing field. In the old days, only a few guys were getting any, but most had a chance after marriage if they were even halfway responsible. Now that's completely changed and we have the bad boy/friendzone divide where the guy women would have married is shut out.
This is a byproduct of feminism few saw. And it's created a loose "harem society" that is not "progressive" but a throwback to older societies. Ironically, those societies were truly patriarchal with a few Alphas siring the majority of the kids. This is something feminists don't get or don't care about.
2). Socially. Schools are now designed by and for females and rigged to make boys outcasts. The default position of "boy" today is the disaffected punk or soon-to-be gangster. If this was "90210" there would be no Brandon character -- all the boys would be Dylan. The few "Brandons" would be either gay or nerds because making the bad boy the norm makes the good guy the loser. All of this breeds dysfunction and is probably why our granddads knew what would happen if we put women in charge, but I digress...
3). Economic. This was a deliberate goal of feminism -- to dis-empower men in the workplace. And I don't need to repeat what's happening do I? Schools churn out more women than men (by design) and they take the jobs men would have had in companies built by men, in towns built by men, etc. Men might not understand this first-hand, because they don't teach you in school "men built and designed everything!" (That would probably now qualify as hate speech.) But men get this on an unconscious emotional level.
Affirmative-action for women took the jobs black men would have gotten since whites feel more comfortable around whites (something feminists never address). All of this further disenfranchises the few guys who did survive the school system. And then there's the Divorce Industrial Complex and family courts, all of which strip men of resources and "empower" women.
When you add up 1, 2 and 3 you don't get 4. You get the Angry Beta. And even if guys think they're Alpha, too many bad school or family court experiences have a way of bringing out the Beta Rage. Which was probably the intent all along.
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12-01-2013, 04:56 PM
The girl to guy ratio where I am right now is atrocious. It's probably something like 7 guys to 1 girl at any given time in any bar or club. It's near impossible to even find a girl you'd want to approach. Can't wait until the South American girls start packing in.
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12-01-2013, 06:36 PM
This is a great thread, probing the deepest, darkest issues.
At some point, we have to take a firm stand and say "no more." Not one further retreat, not one further step backward. For me, I've crossed my own Rubicon on this a while back and I refuse to abandon myself to despair. We're the ones who are right, and history will prove us right.
Feminism and all this related spinoff shit created all these problems, and by some accident of history, it has fallen on our shoulders to have to deal with it. Bad luck? Maybe. But that's life. I refuse to abandon myself to despair. If you have an escape plan, then go for it and don't look back. Sharpen your tomahawk and wait for the day of reckoning. And be prepared for anything. And if it means being single for the rest of my life, so be it. Fuck it, and fuck society.
Because this shit is spreading all over the world. I got an email today from a Brazilian friend who lives a small Brazilian city near Sao Paolo. He told me a story that illustrates this point.
Last night he picked up a girl and brought her back to his apartment. She gave him some last minute resistance and then finally came to his bed. But then she started to say shit like, "my pleasure is more important than yours", and show signs of selfishness and bitchiness. He got pissed off and basically threw her ass out. He was asking me if he did the right thing and I said "Hell yes."
He then went on to explain that he's noticing that a lot of guys are starting to become and act more effeminate than they used to be, compared with 5 or ten years ago. Women are becoming more bitchy, more "50 Shades of Grey", and more responsive to beta male behavior than they used to. Essentially, he's noticing that alpha behavior seems to be not as rewarded as beta behavior (being sneaky, passive aggressive, indecisive, etc).
Bottom line: feminization of the male member of the species is creeping all over the planet. It is happening. So we've got to find ways of fighting back. And I consider this Forum and ROK a key part of that combat.
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12-01-2013, 08:02 PM
Yep merenguero, the argentines and Brazilians should be packing in soon. They should be coming in around Christmas. By January it will be full swing South Americans everywhere. I expect a lot of Brazilians this year because last year a lot of them couldn't come because of a teacher strike in brazil. They were all stuck in school so couldn't get visas.