[funkyzeit]

In few hours I am about to attend a 90min lecture about the difference between gender and sex. It'll probably be the bullshit about "what oppressive society defined you as" vs "what gender do you feeeel like", so if you guys have any troll questions I should ask them feel free to write them down, I'll report the reactions later or at most tomorrow.

[j r]

The easiest one is "if gender isn't biologically determined, does that mean that transgendered people are just choosing to be the other gender?"

[runsonmagic]

Ask them when you think men will be able to have babies, "so that there is full gender equality."

If they give you a hard time about it, troll further and say you really want the experience of giving birth, because it looks so magical and beautiful.

[WesternCancer]

ask them what they think about gender being determined moreso by hormones/development than the effects of society.

their brains would most likely implode reading even the most introductory developmental biology papers.

[Suits]

(11-29-2013 01:59 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

ask them what they think about gender being determined moreso by hormones/development than the effects of society.

their brains would most likely implode reading even the most introductory developmental biology papers.

This one is risky. They'll probably just respond with some garbage mumbo-jumbo. Feminist bitches are well versed on how to pretend that it's all the patriarchy's fault anyway.

Since they're uneducated, they'll just insist that men and women are basically the same biologically, and that evil men force strong, proud women to face discrimination.

You'll not get anywhere by treating them to a course of facts. If the facts mattered to them, they wouldn't be feminists.

[Tytalus]

Remember: You have to troll their feelings. Not with facts, but with your own feelings that they can empathize with.

[Statsi]

Ask them about the physical strength differences due to sexual dimorphism, they'll say it's caused by social pressures, respond that the grip strength of elite female athletes is lower than the average males... Game won.

[Teedub]

(11-29-2013 07:46 AM)j r Wrote:  

The easiest one is "if gender isn't biologically determined, does that mean that transgendered people are just choosing to be the other gender?"

That's brilliant. I'm going to use that on the social justice crowd on facebook.

[runsonmagic]

(11-30-2013 06:16 AM)Tytalus Wrote:  

Remember: You have to troll their feelings. Not with facts, but with your own feelings that they can empathize with.

Words to live by.

[Tytalus]

(11-30-2013 10:35 AM)runsonmagic Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 06:16 AM)Tytalus Wrote:  

Remember: You have to troll their feelings. Not with facts, but with your own feelings that they can empathize with.

Words to live by.

Thanks! First time that's happened around here.

[funkyzeit]

As I expected, the lecturer was a 50yo psychologist who never ever mentioned anything "biological", but only pushed the gender idea and social stuff. I did ask about the birth and cited one domestic study that stated that 85% of women will quit jobs to get pregnant. Of course, I didn't even finish reading it before my mic was promptly turned off and the lecturer interrupted me with "That doesn't matter, we are talking about social roles component, not the ability to have babies!" which somehow sounded like she was offended by the idea of mentioning fertility in front of her and other infertile females.

The only good part of the whole thing was an extremely paleo friendly Swedish table (Smörgåsbord I think) food fest after the lecture.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

They turn the mic off for just a simple question, yet show up in force to heckle and entirely prevent Warren Farrell's lecture. Free speech for everyone, eh?

Damn hypocrites.

[Tytalus]

(12-03-2013 04:58 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

They turn the mic off for just a simple question, yet show up in force to heckle and entirely prevent Warren Farrell's lecture. Free speech for everyone, eh?

Damn hypocrites.

Agreed. Well thanks for the update!