[Matt3B]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25108439

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Ian Watkins, singer of Welsh rock band Lostprophets, has pleaded guilty to a series of child sex offences including attempted rape of a baby.

He had previously "furiously denied" the allegations.

The 36-year-old from Pontypridd had been due to stand trial at Cardiff Crown Court alongside two women.

Watkins pleaded guilty to attempted rape and sexual assault of a child under 13 but not guilty to rape. This was accepted by the prosecution.

Prosecuting barrister Chris Clee QC told the court: "Ian Watkins was the lead singer in a successful band called the Lostprophets.

"He accepts he was a determined and committed paedophile."

Watkins also admitted three counts of sexual assault involving children and six involving taking, making possessing indecent images of children and one of possessing an extreme pornographic image involving a sex act on an animal.

The evidence against the defendant came from computers laptops and mobile phones.

The court also heard that Watkins filmed and kept the episodes of abuse that were recovered by police.

Of the women standing alongside Watkins in the dock, Mr Clee said: "Both women sexually abused their own children and made them available to Watkins for him to abuse."

One defendant, Woman A, admitted the attempted rape of a baby after denying rape and two of sexual assault as well as taking and distributing an indecent photograph of a child.

Woman B pleaded guilty to conspiring to rape a child, three sexual assault charges and four charges of taking, possessing or distributing indecent images

After hearing legal argument from barristers, Mr Justice Royce called the jury into court and told them: "There will not be a trial in this case. The defendants have all pleaded guilty to nearly all the charges against them. The prosecution does not seek a trial in these circumstances.

"You have been saved from having to watch extremely graphic and distressing material."

Sick cunt. Some of the stuff people are reporting from the evidence is absolutely disgusting.

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@rupertevelyn
Ian Watkins to mother "the sooner we start training her the better" referring to depraved crimes with v small child #lostprophets

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@rupertevelyn
Watkins message to child's mother talked of wanting "to cross the line".
mother "a summer of incest and child porn"
watkins "hell yes baby"

See more on his timeline. Apparently they even drugged the kids with crack cocaine and meth.

He's even got videos of sexual acts with animals.

What a weird cunt.

But still: fame game knows no boundaries:

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@Bekkargh
Wearing my Lostprophets gear tomorrow. I still support Ian Watkins.

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@lostdraigdstryr
@ian_watkins I still love you baby! I don't care that you're guilty! I fucking love you so much!

[Dr. Howard]

"nonce" now I know yet another slang term that exists in neither the US or Canada.

[bojangles]

yep nonce = paedo, used frequently in the UK

[Benoit]

You are a paedophile, you are a nonce, you're a perv, you're a slot badger, you're a two pin din plug, you're a bush dodger, you're a small bean regarder, you're an unabummer, you're a nut administrator, you're a bent ref, you're the crazy world of Arthur Brown, you're a fence foal, you're a free willy, you're a chimney bottler, you're a bunty man, you're a shrub rocketeer...

[LeightonBlackstock]

Gah, this was my favourite band as a child. I've seen them six times, the most recent time being in 2011.

Horrible news, some of the stuff being talked about is just disturbing.

(I've paid to see a nonce six times :/).

(Also: I'm gonna Brass Eye- Paedogeddon tonight now, for like the fifteenth time)

[scouse]

Nonce is apparently a UK police / prison mnemonic that stands for 'not of normal criminal element'.

[Jackr]

(11-26-2013 11:04 AM)crippler Wrote:  

...you're a small bean regarder...

Alright, alright, carry on discussing pedophilia...

[Teedub]

Didn't Fearne Cotton date him years ago? She seems the dysfunctional type.

Also, why are none of the women who helped him (by offering their CHILDREN to him) being named and shamed? They're just referred to as 'Woman A' etc.

[Matt3B]

Yes I noticed that. The only reason I could think of would be to protect their children's identity, though the women should rightfully be shamed and castigated.

[Benoit]

There just has to be something seriously wrong with the guy, what he did was monstrous.

If he was on trial for banging dozens of 15yo chicks during the height of his fame, then I'd back him to the hilt, but this is sickness.

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‏@rupertevelyn: Police believe that Watkins may have abused others and therefore this investigation is not over.

Picture of him in a rock magazine years ago with the caption "Child Catcher"
https://twitter.com/mrdeancrowe/status/4...64/photo/1

[Teedub]

My word have you visited the twitter feeds of those supporters that are in the OP? Utter freaks. Women too, as expected.

[Statsi]

(11-26-2013 07:22 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

Didn't Fearne Cotton date him years ago? She seems the dysfunctional type.

Also, why are none of the women who helped him (by offering their CHILDREN to him) being named and shamed? They're just referred to as 'Woman A' etc.

The women in question are the children's mothers, revealing their names reveals the identity of the children.

Dude is twisted, he confessed to thirteen to get off of thirty charges. Actually horrible shit, hard to put any raison d'tere on this kind of bull shit. I guess even with a massive band, incredible wealth, fame, hot groupies throwing themselves at you, you are still a slave to your lusts. Chalk one up for sickness being genetic.

[Teedub]

What will happen to the Mothers though, will they get jailed? Surely. Their poor kids need to be adopted.

[Malekhit]

So how do you feel about the leader of emo band doing weird shit ?

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Ahhhh, British English.... reminds me of this hilarity:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Airbender
Peter Bradshaw of The Guardian noted an unfortunate linguistic problem that reduced British viewers to "a state of nervous collapse" due to laughter. In British English, 'bent' is a slang term for gay, with 'bender' meaning a gay man, giving an entirely different meaning to lines such as, "I could tell at once that you were a bender." Bradshaw commented that the response from the audience to such lines was "deafeningly immature" and would "inevitably be repeated in every cinema in the land showing The Last Airbender."[93]

[Marmite]

(11-27-2013 01:03 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Ahhhh, British English.... reminds me of this hilarity:

Sorry to have to correct you, but it's English, not British English. Yanks, Canadians, Aussies, Kiwis, South Africans etc may speak a different dialect of the mother tongue, but English spoken in the UK is English.

[Benoit]

Fucking hell. I was dismayed by the news, but I'm livid at this pile of shit from The Independent.

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It is notable that until his guilty plea, Watkins “furiously denied” the allegations. This is hardly a surprising to anyone familiar with rape culture. The most common lie about rape is denial that it happened. This lie is readily lapped up and believed: a Facebook page titled “Ian Watkins is innocent” has over 200 “likes”, and the only evidence these people had to go on was Watkins’s word that he didn’t do it. Even when a man has been convicted of rape, we still see a denial of guilt, as was the case when footballer Ched Evans was convicted.

Ched Evans was convicted of rape on the word of a girl who said she was so drunk she couldn't remember anything. The other man who also had sex with her that night (!) was found not guilty.

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Public reaction has attempted to elide this structural violence, and pretend that the culture which allows people like Watkins to abuse does not exist. Some make jokes about what happened, as though rape of a baby is a laughing matter. Others claim their childhood has been ruined because a beloved pop figure has been revealed to be a paedophile. But the only childhoods ruined by Watkins were of the children he abused.

What the fuck does "elide this structural violence" even mean? Fuck all, that's what.

This bitch had no fucking idea who he was, he's just a convenient current cultural reference to shoehorn into her shitty essay. She's getting her narcissistic kicks taking on the world as a social justice warrior, but anyone who dares to make a joke about this situation is wrong. Only she can exploit it.

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Many have tried to derail this talk of rape culture by pointing out that the other two defendants in the Watkins case were women, as though that somehow magically dilutes the main point: that powerful men rape, and then lie about it. It is worth noting here that experts suggest that it is unlikely the women would have abused children without Watkins persuading them to do it through grooming.

They willingly offered up their own flesh and blood to this sick fuck, but they're the victims? Go team woman!

I'm not even going to bother with the made-up opinions of her unnamed and nonexistent experts.

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The Watkins story shows a particularly extreme manifestation of rape culture, but things like this happen every day, and will continue to happen. The whole system needs uprooting, as we see people decrying Watkins yet continuing to perpetuate other myths that make it easier for rapists to get away with it. It chills me to the bone that in the future we will see more cases like this. This is why we must fight rape culture, for every current and past victim.

He was caught and is going away for a very long time. Only a woman could snatch defeat from the jaws of victory against a rapist.


I think I went a bit 2wycked there, but it genuinely made my blood boil when I came across this. Here's the author's blog, filled with much much more in the way of wordy but sub-literate drivel. "Zoe Stavri is an anarchist and feminist".

[Teedub]

Fuck me, The Independent has jumped the shark with that bullshit. Inevitable really though. A prominent male celebrity FINALLY done for something heinous...blame all men and 'rape culture'. Listen here Zoe, why don'y you fly to fucking Pakistan and preach about rape culture, how about Saudi to preach about the powerful virtues of flamboyant homosexuality, you stupid whore.

[2Wycked]

Jesus, I spent the last half hour cruising that "stavvers" bitch's blog.

I must be a glutton for punishment when hungover.

What a steaming pile of nonsense.

If I read one more comment, "As a fat queer feminist otherkin tranny blah blah blah" I swear my eyes are going to bleed.

[Cr33pin]

Man this was my shit

[Benoit]

(11-27-2013 04:29 PM)2Wycked Wrote:  

Jesus, I spent the last half hour cruising that "stavvers" bitch's blog.

It's a rabbit hole that leads too loopyland.

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Liking problematic stuff doesn’t make you a bad person. That thing you liked? It’s not a part of you. You almost certainly, in fact, had no creative control over it. Instead, it was created by rich and privileged people, far far away.

How do these people simultaneously hold such contradictory beliefs without their heads exploding?

[2Wycked]

I recall these guys were popular stateside when I was in HS (2000-2004)

I recall "Last Train Home" was highly popular spring of 2004, it was this song that turned me on to the band:

British dudes: did they stay popular over there? I am assuming so because I had forgot about the band until this thread.

Shit, I loaded some old school songs of theirs onto my iPod because of this thread.

[Vendetta]

I always sited Lost Prophets as a perfect example of how utterly shit music had become since the mid-90s when all real music finally gave up the ghost.

They were entirely a style-over-substance band, cool hair, cool jackets, "cool" videos, utterly fucking shite music.

I'm glad they are now defunct. I am genuinely surprised though at these reports.

Peace.

[LeightonBlackstock]

(11-28-2013 12:21 AM)2Wycked Wrote:  

British dudes: did they stay popular over there? I am assuming so because I had forgot about the band until this thread.

They were huge in 2004 when they released 'Start Something'. Then they were selling out arenas in 2006/2007 when they released 'Liberation Transmission' and became full-blown mainstream emo-pop (I really hate that album).

But yeah, they were definitely still popular up until last year. They had an album out in 2012 and sold out two extensive academy tours across the UK. They were pretty damn good on them too I thought (despite the lacking of songs from Thefakesoundofprogress, which is the reason I like them. Particularly 'Shinobi', 'Awkward' and 'Kobrakai').

I used to blast this out before every night out actually (as recently as Saturday), It used to be my favourite song ever, but I guess it's not now:

[InternationPlayboy]

Lostprophets sucked anyways.