[BishesMyron]

Hey guys,

I usually have no trouble opening random girls and putting across my intent but absolutely clueless about social circle situations. I wonder if she's really interested or just being friendly and I have trouble escalating due to fear of rejection (others friends will find out).

I have read Bang and the advice was to game as usual?

Any pointers?

[funkyzeit]

Isolate, then proceed as usual. Most girls are reserved in front of their friends, unless you are super alpha dude and she doesn't care what will they think.

Also, if you are dominating conversations and being the center of (positive) attention, some 8.5+/10s tend to become bitchy or pretend to ignore you in order to attract you, test your alphaness and stand out themselves.

[Parlay44]

Social circle game is easy. Either walk right up and say "Hi I'm Bishes". Or have the party host introduce you.

Then just do some random small talk. "How do know so and so?"

I end with "Let's do a shot of whatever".

[XXL]

Be cool with guys even when they feel uncomfortable with you. At first meet girls and just bullshit with them. Give them time to get familiar with you. Make a good first impression. Girls will start asking you questions. Then when you get into a real conversation with them start flirting. It's as easy as basic misinterpretations or lying that they make you shy [when you clearly not]. Flirt but be tasteful. Lean back and enjoy that little sexual spark in the air. Don't try to close the deal then. Time is on your side. Pay attention how you make girls feel. Notice which girl is receptive and try to orchestrate one on one with her.

It's very under the radar game.

For example, at house party be flirty with them but forget that seduction vibe. Make it fun and innocent. Have fun with your innuendos. Send mixed signals so that you're not coming across as pushy, flirt with A and B girls then turn around and go smoke where C girl and your buddy is. Stuff like that. Mingle. Have things to talk about. Be the guy with innitiative. Offer buying this and that type of alcohol for later and say that you can't drink more cause you will fall in love with all A, B, C girls. Introduce some stupid party game and tell D girl that she's too cute to play. You don't wait for yes/no reactions. You say those innuendos here and there just to let girls know you're sexual guy. E girls opens up about her dating life and she tells you type of a guy she wants and you tell her she's so unlucky cause you leave tomorrow. Music bumping people have a good time. You offer girl E to dance an she says she's not drunk enough so you say "can't be like that!!" and pour everybody. Then you dance and after 3 songs you take her to kitchen to "make some lemonade" and you fool around there. Stuff like that.

To me social circle game is last man standing type of thing. It's like a pickup minefield. It requires some social intuition/awareness and ability to navigate in high risk situations to actally get some. It's easy to go too far for pickup guy and it's easy to become a gay friend for a regular dude.

The guy who can be relaxed fun flirty masculine, CONSISTENTLY, wins.

From what I've seen guys usually fuck themselves over by trying to be too cool/alpha and getting burned or by being too passive and getting irrelevant [or getting shitfaced and falling asleep that's common too]. So IMO in social circle scenarios results come from being normal/cool and NOT DOING [stupid shit] rather than doing something impressive [like DHVs and trying to be alpha]. I just stay relaxed cool fun flirty friendly [and amp it up when everybody's drunk] and watch guys blow themselves in the meantime as they usually do

With girls it's like this. Flirty tasteful and involving everyone:

[Remington]

Like Parlay said, introduce yourself, do a shot of whatever and follow the advice from 0:00-0:05. Easy

[BishesMyron]

Thanks a lot for your responses guys, especially XXL for a detailed one.

By other friends finding out, I meant mine. Getting blown out by a girl in club/street is ok but not a classmate and everyone knowing about it. I've had few girls give IOIs but just too beta to act because of a past experience of my attempt becoming a story in the circle

[XXL]

In order to not become 'a story in the circle' you need to frame your flirting as innocent fun in the moment. Girls have to know that you're just a flirty guy. That's massively important. Girls have to know that it's a part of who you are. So you can't exclude fatties and ugly ones. Flirt to flirt with unattractive ones, flirt to fuck with attractive ones.

I mean, I was physically escalating [tastefully but still] in my class in university and it was ok as people viewed me as this flirty guy who fools around with girls for some fun. I was doing things like..
- handshake + spin thing
- standing closer and flirting with eyes
- hugging a girl when she was smoking outside in winter [totally glued to her from behind to make her warm]
- girls sitting on my lap during breaks
- holding hands while talking and waving them like little kids

Girls are fine with all of that ONLY IF you're super non needy guy aka you do it just to have a fun moment with girls. Here's example of how non needy attitude looks like in university hall during break time:

You do your spin handshake and put smile of A girl's face and then you back off and talk to her casually about stuff. Then you engage B girl in your conversation and askl her if you and girl A fit each other to be a couple. Then when she actually starts answering you tell her "pff hahah I you're sooo easy, we actually hate each other, not to even mention being together, unless it's pure hate fucking". Then A girl freaks out hearing you say that you hate her. Then you tell them both that actually they would make a good couple cause as a up and coming lesbian expert you can tell they look cute together. Then you smile and just leave not caring whether they agree or disagree. You play around like that. Of course if you see a girl gets uncomfortable [eyes don't lie] then you have to recover. You back off, give her some kind of excuse "ahh sorry i didn't mean to piss you off, i got screwed sense of humor just like every child of divorce that i know" and you change topic immediately after that "hey do you know where's Jim? Ive been looking for him".

You keep that fun flirty and indifferent attitude and you amp it up a bit at club/house parties where things actually can go down thanks to too much booze. It escalates there. Everybody's drunk. Girls start getting all sexy and seductive with their humor dancing touching flirting. Again, it's all just part of the FUN at party. You're already that guy that girls can freely fool around with. More dancing more booze more fun. Silly kissing bets start. Party peaks. People split up and form groups of 2-3, one group in one room, other group in kitchen, other in balcony, etc. Then some people leave together to crash in some person's house and bang eventually, some stay in house and get carried away encouraged by privacy.

IMPORTANT: Do not game girls in your circle in romantic way cause that implies that you have a crush on some girl and you want to take her out. People see that you're after this one girl and when you do the same on another you get labelled as this seriously not cool that people gossip about in a very bad way. Gaming in social circle this way is the exact cause of all drama and shit.

Good luck

[BishesMyron]

I wonder why you're not in process of writing a book. Solid advice. Thanks man

[Steve Derekson]

I've always wondered about closing in social circle. You run the long-game with a girl over a few weeks, but the moment you let your intent be known (you have to, in some way, before the kiss) you can mess up your reputation in the entire group.

Definitely awkward with colleagues and classmates, and one of the reasons I don't play this game.

[XXL]

(12-02-2013 03:08 PM)BishesMyron Wrote:  

I wonder why you're not in process of writing a book. Solid advice. Thanks man

All of this information is already out there and the topic is alreay beaten to death. Nihil novi

(12-02-2013 03:15 PM)Steve Derekson Wrote:  

I've always wondered about closing in social circle. You run the long-game with a girl over a few weeks, but the moment you let your intent be known (you have to, in some way, before the kiss) you can mess up your reputation in the entire group.

Definitely awkward with colleagues and classmates, and one of the reasons I don't play this game.

It's awkward ONLY IF you mismanage the expectations. That's the key

That's why I underlined that paragraph in my previous post. If you go after a girl in your circle in a romantic way (let's be together) then everybody sees you as her potential BF. Going after another girl in the same way at the same time will cause drama and will get you isolated from the group. It's mismanaged expectations. You're openly courting two girls? You're cheater lier scumbag etc.

In general girls are fine with who you are AS LONG AS you stay 100% congruent that way. Ever noticed how girls really like total chodes? Once I thought "what is this?". It doesn't make sense. They're lame nerds with no personality and charisma. Thing is they're themselves. They know how they are and stay that way. That's what builds comfort. Girls might not be attracted to them but they trust them.

Its the same way if you're flirty fun guy for real. Girls know what to expect from you and what they get into if they let you game them. They may not hook up with you for their own personal reasons like nobody forces them to sleep with you just because you're sexual. But AS LONG AS YOU STAY CONGRUENT girls will trust you the same way they trust nerds or nice guys or assholes.

It's like that quote from Pirates: "Me I'm dishonest, and a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly. It's the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they're going to do something incredibly... stupid."

So after something happens you can't turn into lovey dovey BF guy and think something has changed. Again, you have to STAY CONGRUENT to the image you've portrayed and be super cool about random hook ups at parties here and there. It's like "yeah no big deal it was fun you're great in bed good for you" and you stay normal like nothing happened. You talk to her like before you treat her the same way etc.

Of course basic bro code still applies so gaming your bro's girl is NO NO NO even when that fucking skank throws herself at you.

PS. I just realized that "under the radar" phrase is wrong as it implies that you're a wolf in sheep's clothing insidiously trying to weasel into girls pants. That's actually bad bad bad. With social circles you have to be the fucking wolf from the get go so that everybody can form the opinion of you and know what to expect from you. Those girls who get lured and get with the program are welcome. With some social intuition it's not that hard to be fun/flirty/sexual AND tactful/normal/fair at the same time.

[Parlay44]

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Of course basic bro code still applies so gaming your bro's girl is NO NO NO even when that fucking skank throws herself at you.

That's a tough one right there. I know it depends on the circumstances but I'd break it down like this.

Learn the difference between a friend and an acquaintance.

If your friend's girl or ex-girl throws herself at you all bets are off and you are free to bang proving you call your friend and give full disclosure of her skank-like behavior.

An acquaintance is a 2nd degree relationship ...a friend of a friend. You owe this person nothing and are free to bang his girl at your discretion.

[JWLZG]

I just gamed a solid 8 via social circle. When I went for the close once isolated, she suggested that we'd see each other again via said circles. I brought up a heavy work schedule and she added me on Facebook, still citing seeing each other next time through our mutual group. I'd escalated my flirting once I'd ascertained that the guy she was with wasn't her boyfriend, which she was responsive enough to. I'm a bit confused at the incongruence when I closed. Should I read too much into that?

[topdog]

@JWLZG: Textbook ASD (Anti-Slut Defenses) on that girl. I suppose she really likes you, but does not want to feel like a slut. She knows that meeting you on her own would allow you to seduce her and bang her without social commitment on your side. What she suggests is meeting within the circle so she can feel the approval from the herd to sleep with you so its in turn 'not slutty'.

Considering she is an '8' and you consider her GF material, I would put in the time.