[Teedub]

(11-25-2013 07:21 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

(11-25-2013 06:42 AM)pesos Wrote:  

(11-25-2013 06:21 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

you need to get rich bro. I'll show you a way to make millions without even really doing any work.

You'll get rich, quickly. Just send me $99 via paypal and we will get this process started.

I have been rich and am currently in the process of getting rich again, however unless you got $100 bills falling out of your ass or your Ferrari hanging from a chain on your neck, random sluts in a bar have no idea if you are rich.

Right you are my dear friend!

I think my $499 "Get rich quick and have all the ranom sluts in a bar know it!" package is right for you.

But thats not all, If you PM me in the next 10 minutes, I'll even throw in my "Deeper Level Of Game" package, where I discuss how having good looks, money, and fame will get you laid with NO EFFORT, ABSOLUTELY FREE!

Haha! You'd be surprised how many people buy this kind of stuff. I know, I've written the sales pages!

[WestIndianArchie]

The newb board is not this one.

WIA

[thegmanifesto]

(11-25-2013 10:12 AM)pesos Wrote:  

(11-25-2013 09:54 AM)Kimber Wrote:  

man even if you are rich, famous all that good shit you need to ave game to put your girl in check. Game is a different way of seeing the world, game is recognising your true value as a man and living up to that value. There is nothing more threatening and at the same time attractive to women than a man who knows his proper value, in the wise words of Rollo Tomassi.

Sounds like you've tried game, it's been hard and now you're looking for a shortcut so you don't have to put in the work.

I look for shortcuts for everything in life, because I know they exist. The easier and faster I obtain the things I want, the better.

There are plenty of shortcuts to failure.

But there are no shortcuts to true success.

You must of forgot.

[dog24]

(11-25-2013 09:54 AM)Kimber Wrote:  

man even if you are rich, famous all that good shit you need to ave game to put your girl in check. Game is a different way of seeing the world, game is recognising your true value as a man and living up to that value. There is nothing more threatening and at the same time attractive to women than a man who knows his proper value, in the wise words of Rollo Tomassi.

Sounds like you've tried game, it's been hard and now you're looking for a shortcut so you don't have to put in the work.

This seems like the reverse game-denialist troll
I remember when i first started reading blogs about game and i thought the possibilities were endless. Truth is, game is getting rid of approach anxiety, setting up the frame so that the girls chase you not the other way around, passing shit tests, overcoming LMR and not much more. From then on is a numbers game, and you have to do the approaches sometimes thousands of them.

Thats why all the guys in here with more than 100 notches, are a) self proclaimed good looking guys b) guys with enough money to take a few months vacation to a third world country c) Guys who would be getting pussy even without ever reading about "game".

There a lot of truth in what you said about a man knowing his true value, well sometimes that value is just not enough.
Guys like lionel richie started doing music to get girls, would a guy that looks like that would have been better off doing daygame? Or selling cocaine which you could always be fronted???

I dont get why everyone is hating on this guy, there is no formula for what you are trying to achieve though. Putting up a youtube channel or trying to get on an mtv show would be good ideas.

[mental]

(11-25-2013 12:49 PM)dog24 Wrote:  

(11-25-2013 09:54 AM)Kimber Wrote:  

man even if you are rich, famous all that good shit you need to ave game to put your girl in check. Game is a different way of seeing the world, game is recognising your true value as a man and living up to that value. There is nothing more threatening and at the same time attractive to women than a man who knows his proper value, in the wise words of Rollo Tomassi.

Sounds like you've tried game, it's been hard and now you're looking for a shortcut so you don't have to put in the work.

This seems like the reverse game-denialist troll
I remember when i first started reading blogs about game and i thought the possibilities were endless. Truth is, game is getting rid of approach anxiety, setting up the frame so that the girls chase you not the other way around, passing shit tests, overcoming LMR and not much more. From then on is a numbers game, and you have to do the approaches sometimes thousands of them.

Thats why all the guys in here with more than 100 notches, are a) self proclaimed good looking guys b) guys with enough money to take a few months vacation to a third world country c) Guys who would be getting pussy even without ever reading about "game".

There a lot of truth in what you said about a man knowing his true value, well sometimes that value is just not enough.
Guys like lionel richie started doing music to get girls, would a guy that looks like that would have been better off doing daygame? Or selling cocaine which you could always be fronted???

I dont get why everyone is hating on this guy, there is no formula for what you are trying to achieve though. Putting up a youtube channel or trying to get on an mtv show would be good ideas.

For me the possibilites have been endless - for me game is no longer just some techniques and tools that help me, it's something that has blended with me and helps me with any situation, and that means more respect from men, getting freebies, passing a job interview with flying colors, getting away with shit "non-gamers" couldn't... It may have been for sex at first, but now it's something that opens many doors I didn't even knew existed...

[FourToTheFloor]

A reactive dating strategy is a feminine one.

[LeBeau]

(11-25-2013 06:01 AM)pesos Wrote:  

(11-25-2013 05:57 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

What if you're not in that position, that position is not attainable, or it involves a huge amount of risk and sacrifice or many decades of effort? Roll up and die?

The position is always attainable. And attainable quickly with the right information.

Alright, there's no use hiding anymore, he's become wise to our game.

It's true that many successful RVF men were transformed over night when the right information came into our possession.

However, you have to know the right people to be privy to this info.

A friend only stumbled upon this when he overheard a man ask another about "the nearest Pet shop?"

Instantly he knew he was in the presence of true Innovative Casanovas.

He tracked him for days, and managed to snap this picture, which can only be a handover containing the contents of the rumored "VIP" sub-forum:



The following morning, the headline news reported the hospitalization of 5 young models from exhaustion. Their bodies so tired and drained from the previous night, they could barely speak, and were only able to murmur something about "the man from Zanesville...."

[Distant Light]

Cold approach is an amazing tool to help you design your life...

You sound like one of those dudes who want the benefits of being a "fascinating man" but don't want to actually explore and change for yourself. The life you describe is similar to how I live...
- I get approached alot and many women know me (without me ever knowing them)
- I'd still have a sex life if I didn't do approaches

Thing is, if your are THAT GUY your not gonna be passive due to all the craziness that you can potentially create. Why would you not go out and socialize with people? I remember once a simple small talk with a mixed group lead me to realize the guys were tiestos friends and had already pre-planned for an after party.

Like other dude stated YOU need to be your own "army" in the sense that YOU as a being is so valuable that everyone wants to align with you. As one doorman once told a guy trying to get his 2 guy friends in "No one told you to come out with 2 guys".

You sound like a selfish dude who just wants to get HIS. If that's the case just get a hooker each night you go out since it would be much faster and more "your speed" since you don't seem to have any interest in actually being a cool dude that people are glad to have in their life.

To give you an idea, I have women who won't even feel like going out if they know I'm staying in...

P.S...Due to cold approach I've been able to live a rather interesting lifestyle.

[TheMachinist]

Game is VERY important to not only GETTING pussy but KEEPING pussy.Even if you naturally have attractive women approach you and make themselves available to you, you still need to be able to converse and do all the little things that will make a woman do things for you that she would only do for a man that she see's as high value.You don't want a chick who is a total prude sexually with you and a complete SLUT with the next man.The difference between how she deals with both men comes down to GAME.

[Buddy Orion]

(11-25-2013 07:29 AM)pesos Wrote:  

(11-25-2013 07:00 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  

Acquire currency, power, prestige, fame, or respect

Are you asking us how to get some of the above? There's no one track road to that

Acquire status and luxury items after that

And get women

Simply acquiring currency and luxury items does not do what I have described in my original post. Anyone who has ever been rich knows this.

I am not interested in national/global level fame for I value my privacy over almost anything, however I may be able to accept local/niche fame if it helps me achieve what I have described, but even that is a little sketchy.

More thoughts on this.

Fame is the answer man

[pesos]

(11-25-2013 07:56 PM)Distant Light Wrote:  

Cold approach is an amazing tool to help you design your life...

You sound like one of those dudes who want the benefits of being a "fascinating man" but don't want to actually explore and change for yourself. The life you describe is similar to how I live...
- I get approached alot and many women know me (without me ever knowing them)
- I'd still have a sex life if I didn't do approaches

Thing is, if your are THAT GUY your not gonna be passive due to all the craziness that you can potentially create. Why would you not go out and socialize with people? I remember once a simple small talk with a mixed group lead me to realize the guys were tiestos friends and had already pre-planned for an after party.

Like other dude stated YOU need to be your own "army" in the sense that YOU as a being is so valuable that everyone wants to align with you. As one doorman once told a guy trying to get his 2 guy friends in "No one told you to come out with 2 guys".

You sound like a selfish dude who just wants to get HIS. If that's the case just get a hooker each night you go out since it would be much faster and more "your speed" since you don't seem to have any interest in actually being a cool dude that people are glad to have in their life.

To give you an idea, I have women who won't even feel like going out if they know I'm staying in...

P.S...Due to cold approach I've been able to live a rather interesting lifestyle.

That's cool man but you really gave me no information on how you are living the life as I describe. You're saying you get laid by socializing naturally when you go out? Yea so do I, but even that takes followup and work generally depending on the quality of the girl. I'm looking for no followup, no work... I go out, I get laid.. no effort... any night I choose.

Your right I am a selfish guy, why wouldn't I be? You only live once, why waste it trying to do anything else besides benefit yourself? And I do buy hookers sometimes but sometimes that gets old because there's something missing from the vibe. It's usually just straight sex which is cool when you just want to bang out a hot bitch, but if you're looking for that extra vibe then its better to get girls who seek you out. It's generally more fun.

And I am a cool dude who people want in their life, but most of those people I do not want in my life. There is only a select few people that I choose to associate myself with in whatever city I choose to live in because most people are douche bags and I'm not about to hang out with douchey people just to seem more "socially valuable" or some gay shit like that.

But yea fuck cold approaching, I always feel like that puts the girl in the power position: "oh wow another guy who wants to bang me... whoopee!"

I'm looking to drop that shit immediately. Looking for some deeper thinking in this thread.

[runsonmagic]

Part of the reason people focus on cold approach is because it's the hardest way to get laid there is, the girl's reactions will be brutally honest, and it opens up massive abundance if you're good at it.

Most people don't get laid through cold approach. They meet girls through their social circle, house parties, friends, networking, whatever. They meet girls in a context where the girl already knows something about them and has reason to see them again.

I've found that as I've gotten better at cold approach, I've learned the behaviors and beliefs that make me more attractive to the women I meet in my regular social circle. Cold approach is like high-intensity weight training - it makes walking through the world easier, even though most of the time you don't have to lift heavy things.

Don't think of it as a cure-all, think of it as a way to slowly improve yourself.

[All or Nothing]

(11-25-2013 10:57 PM)pesos Wrote:  

I'm looking for no followup, no work... I go out, I get laid.. no effort... any night I choose.

If this is what you want, I don't think this forum is the right place for you.

Men have had to compete with each other for women since the dawn of time.

You can't escape this fact with wishful thinking.

[XXL]

(11-25-2013 10:57 PM)pesos Wrote:  

(11-25-2013 07:56 PM)Distant Light Wrote:  

Cold approach is an amazing tool to help you design your life...

You sound like one of those dudes who want the benefits of being a "fascinating man" but don't want to actually explore and change for yourself. The life you describe is similar to how I live...
- I get approached alot and many women know me (without me ever knowing them)
- I'd still have a sex life if I didn't do approaches

Thing is, if your are THAT GUY your not gonna be passive due to all the craziness that you can potentially create. Why would you not go out and socialize with people? I remember once a simple small talk with a mixed group lead me to realize the guys were tiestos friends and had already pre-planned for an after party.

Like other dude stated YOU need to be your own "army" in the sense that YOU as a being is so valuable that everyone wants to align with you. As one doorman once told a guy trying to get his 2 guy friends in "No one told you to come out with 2 guys".

You sound like a selfish dude who just wants to get HIS. If that's the case just get a hooker each night you go out since it would be much faster and more "your speed" since you don't seem to have any interest in actually being a cool dude that people are glad to have in their life.

To give you an idea, I have women who won't even feel like going out if they know I'm staying in...

P.S...Due to cold approach I've been able to live a rather interesting lifestyle.

That's cool man but you really gave me no information on how you are living the life as I describe. You're saying you get laid by socializing naturally when you go out? Yea so do I, but even that takes followup and work generally depending on the quality of the girl. I'm looking for no followup, no work... I go out, I get laid.. no effort... any night I choose.

Last time I checked DL was basically broke ass party animal in NYC. From what he wrote extensively all he does is party/clubbing all day everyday. Approaches tons of chicks by mingling. Has very short interactions. Gives out his phone number saying to hit him up cause he's always out and about. Invites people he's contact with to another parties he's going to. Those who want are welcome, the rest is literally forgotten.

It's like a hardcore passive screening game. He fools around only with girls who fit his lifestyle. He doesn't date girls. He doesn't stick to one girl in a club. He doesn't leave parties earlier to bang some chick waiting for him at night. He doesn't do shit to get the specific girl.

It's like social circle game on steroids. However the trick is that he never tries to pick them up. So he gets away with going sexual on them hard because it's just part of the 'fun' and they already show they want it. That's why everyone is ok with him fooling around with different girls from the same social circle. Of course clubbing atmosphere is also very helpful.

[Distant Light]

(11-25-2013 10:57 PM)pesos Wrote:  

(11-25-2013 07:56 PM)Distant Light Wrote:  

Cold approach is an amazing tool to help you design your life...

You sound like one of those dudes who want the benefits of being a "fascinating man" but don't want to actually explore and change for yourself. The life you describe is similar to how I live...
- I get approached alot and many women know me (without me ever knowing them)
- I'd still have a sex life if I didn't do approaches

Thing is, if your are THAT GUY your not gonna be passive due to all the craziness that you can potentially create. Why would you not go out and socialize with people? I remember once a simple small talk with a mixed group lead me to realize the guys were tiestos friends and had already pre-planned for an after party.

Like other dude stated YOU need to be your own "army" in the sense that YOU as a being is so valuable that everyone wants to align with you. As one doorman once told a guy trying to get his 2 guy friends in "No one told you to come out with 2 guys".

You sound like a selfish dude who just wants to get HIS. If that's the case just get a hooker each night you go out since it would be much faster and more "your speed" since you don't seem to have any interest in actually being a cool dude that people are glad to have in their life.

To give you an idea, I have women who won't even feel like going out if they know I'm staying in...

P.S...Due to cold approach I've been able to live a rather interesting lifestyle.

That's cool man but you really gave me no information on how you are living the life as I describe. You're saying you get laid by socializing naturally when you go out? Yea so do I, but even that takes followup and work generally depending on the quality of the girl. I'm looking for no followup, no work... I go out, I get laid.. no effort... any night I choose.

Your right I am a selfish guy, why wouldn't I be? You only live once, why waste it trying to do anything else besides benefit yourself? And I do buy hookers sometimes but sometimes that gets old because there's something missing from the vibe. It's usually just straight sex which is cool when you just want to bang out a hot bitch, but if you're looking for that extra vibe then its better to get girls who seek you out. It's generally more fun.

And I am a cool dude who people want in their life, but most of those people I do not want in my life. There is only a select few people that I choose to associate myself with in whatever city I choose to live in because most people are douche bags and I'm not about to hang out with douchey people just to seem more "socially valuable" or some gay shit like that.

But yea fuck cold approaching, I always feel like that puts the girl in the power position: "oh wow another guy who wants to bang me... whoopee!"

I'm looking to drop that shit immediately. Looking for some deeper thinking in this thread.

I live this life as a result of "exploring" cold approach and actually becoming a dude who actually has some "quality" DEPTH...

I'm 100% sure you're not how I am nor doing what I do. YES, I have women approach me and want to have sex BUT it's not like I hand select them. ONLY REASON MOST ARE ATTRACTIVE is because of the venues I go to. (all have door policy) Still that is just a sub-set of the whole "lifestyle". To think that's all you'd want means you have a limited awareness when it comes to what your capable of doing in your life.

EXAMPLE, saturday night...
- Girl texts me that she's out, I happen to be at the club area of the restaurant she's at. She's with 2 girls and 2 guys BUT is grabbing all over me and trying to kiss me talking about "lets get weird"
- As I walk through the club a girl randomly starts unbuttoning my shirt
- As I'm about to be introduced to a girl she's trying to kiss me

Which brings me to...

What the hell do you really want? You say, "Hookers are BORING, vibe off BUT time to time want an extra vibe?" O dear and the "douchebag" excuses. It's the frustrated who revert to such excuses.

No one says you have to have some "bromance", what I'm talking about as a socially aware man you should know nightlife and hospitality is all about having fun socially and sexually. If your NOT a dude who is "fascinating" in such areas then don't expect too many experiences that you dream and hope for.

Simply, you met a guy while out and about, you acknowledge each other, and decide to have some future "fun" related to a social life. So instead of a RANDOM solo night at the pub...
- You have some girls come out
- You hit your boy up to go to dinner
- You pre-game at venue #1
- You go to a friends table for their bday party with your crew
- Everyone in the social circle brings their own friends, causing a huge table of people partying together while a "good" dj is playing

P.S...IMO, most community dudes lack awareness of what COLD APPROACH really is. It goes beyond simply HAVING SEX, you have the "personal power" to drastically change both men and womens lives.

(11-26-2013 04:15 AM)XXL Wrote:  

Last time I checked DL was basically broke ass party animal in NYC. From what he wrote extensively all he does is party/clubbing all day everyday. Approaches tons of chicks by mingling. Has very short interactions. Gives out his phone number saying to hit him up cause he's always out and about. Invites people he's contact with to another parties he's going to. Those who want are welcome, the rest is literally forgotten.

It's like a hardcore passive screening game. He fools around only with girls who fit his lifestyle. He doesn't date girls. He doesn't stick to one girl in a club. He doesn't leave parties earlier to bang some chick waiting for him at night. He doesn't do shit to get the specific girl.

It's like social circle game on steroids. However the trick is that he never tries to pick them up. So he gets away with going sexual on them hard because it's just part of the 'fun' and they already show they want it. That's why everyone is ok with him fooling around with different girls from the same social circle. Of course clubbing atmosphere is also very helpful.

IMO, that was a rather raw/uncut breakdown...

Yes, I used to party alot BUT the same amount of hours dudes spent daygaming and nightgaming alone, I was actually LIVING MY LIFE with both my ideal types and friends I actually enjoy being around. I have the personality and actual lifestyle to show "life changing improvement"...

Hardcore passive screening? I guess you can say that, also I don't date girls due to my belief that it's "Selfish of me", the amount of value I bring and the experience I can provide is something that should never be hoarded for one specific woman. At this point in my life though it's hard to say what "fits" my lifestyle since I've been all over the map...
- Hipster chicks who don't party
- Ivy League "Trustfund" chicks who don't party
- Daughter of a "billionarie" family who is career oriented
- High End Escort
- Daughter of a "racist" political family

I go out 1-3x a week nowadays going to all the top venues in NY because I am a dude of massive value. If I show up it's 100% guaranteed (without a doubt) that the energy in the room is going to be UNREAL. If I do bring along chicks it's HIGHLY PROBABLE that not only will she be of high fashion model quality BUT actually enjoys having fun. The mere fact that I'm a genuinely social dude who actually interacts with men and women is something that is RARE. Which is why I can go to the TOP VENUE in new york alone.

P.S...To this day, I still meet girls through cold approach only difference is that I'm not in joes pub talking to average chicks...

[The Beast1]

(11-25-2013 08:42 PM)Buddy Orion Wrote:  

Fame is the answer man

Fame is like lighter fluid. Creates a really bright flame, but extinguishes quickly.

You need tinder to have it burn.

[WestCoast]

DistantLight destroyed this thread.

I'm going with WIA and saying

The real axe in the thread is his d-bag comment, in reality he's definitely not someone you want in your life and you can smell it from typing style alone.

No one of high success/social value thinks like the OP. Not one.

Basically the OP straight up doesn't like people. You don't like cold approaching because you don't like people. This means you'll never get to the point where people want to meet you for being you.

It is actually circular.

Think about the guys who get approached for doing nothing, they are already the most interesting person at the party they already have contacts like DL they already run the show so to speak.

I'm definitely not bringing knockout models to the clubs like that but I'll be damned if you meet someone like me on the street. I'm more interesting than the top 5% and that's exactly why you can get a few people who simply want to meet you because they already heard of you.

Sounds like the typical "what's the the easiest path to pussy" type thread. Where the answer is always the same. Put in the work or quit.

Everybody has a different approach to building that lifestyle. If you want an idea here's the one I am running. Ownership.

Get in a position where you can own a bar/club. Outright. Or apartment complexes (plural) or be the guy for xyz nice establishments wine bars etc. That's the best way to have "low end fame" without your face plastered across billboards like a buffoon.

But of course that takes a lot of work, probably not for most people since they would rather do the same shit over and over again expecting to improve.

If you can't look in the mirror and answer "why would someone hang out with me" in a split second, no sympathy should be given. Everyone tries to get theirs without putting in their own time, naturally this is how people who fail think.

[thegmanifesto]

WestCoast, I am not sure if the OP is a troll or not.

Sounds like he might just have low testosterone.

[The Beast1]

(12-02-2013 11:52 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Sounds like he might just have low testosterone.

You know, there is some truth to this. It's december and most people in this country live above the 37th parallel. That seasonal aspect disorder really hits hard as the days are continuing to get darker and darker. I go into work with it being barely bright out and I leave work with it being barely light out.

I've been popping 10,000 IUs of vitamin D and it seems to be helping. I should hit the tanning salon and see if that helps. I hate winter and living in the North East. I need to move to a warmer climate.