[The Beast1]

Hey guys,

I shamefully use this forum to vent some of my own life BS. I try not to make it a habit, but I trust the advice of you gents.

My recent ex (there's a thread in the game folder about the whole ordeal) still keeps in touch with my mother. In fact, I've heard through the grapevine that my own mother thinks I should forgive her for sleeping with my friend, getting pregnant, and sticking the bill with me. My relationship with her has been hella strained as of late and this isn't making it better.

The point of the matter is, I feel really betrayed. Not only by my ex and the crap she pulled, but now my own mother. The two were super close, but to me it seems like she'd rather her than me.

Obviously, I can't control what the two of them do. Do you guys have any suggestions on getting over this? The standard gym regiment of working out, playing music, and occupying my time with my own hobbies isn't keep the hurt at bay.

[Jaylow]

This isn't going to make you feel better but your mom is taking her side because she has probably been in a similar situation before.

Realizing the harshness of women just makes you stronger in the long run. Talking about it like you are doing here helps you get over it but its a lot better to talk to someone in person. If you don't have a close friend you feel comfortable sharing this with to ease the pain then fuck a girl you don't care about and cry on her shoulder.

[worldwidetraveler]

Put some distance between you and your mother. Any person who makes you feel shitty should be put at arms length until they can act accordingly.

[The Beast1]

(11-19-2013 12:34 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  

This isn't going to make you feel better but your mom is taking her side because she has probably been in a similar situation before.

I know, my male hamster has been spinning hard core as of late.

My middle brother looks nothing like my father.

Thanks for the solid advice.

[Parlay44]

I blame you for bringing girls around your family. The only time you should bring a girl around
is if she has a ring on her finger. Call the ex and tell her to fuck off. Then have a nice talk with
your mother and tell her not to talk to her anymore.

[Menace]

(11-19-2013 12:23 PM)frenchie Wrote:  

Obviously, I can't control what the two of them do. Do you guys have any suggestions on getting over this? The standard gym regiment of working out, playing music, and occupying my time with my own hobbies isn't keep the hurt at bay.

That's right. You can only control what you do and what you think. What you need to accept is that NOTHING they do or say needs to have an effect on your life. They are not doing anything to you anymore (sounds like your ex tried in the past); YOU are actually making yourself feel bad/angry. Exclude them from your reality.

Obviously your mother is a bit of a special case, but is she really? She appears to have chosen some stranger over her own flesh and blood. Did that bitch come out of your mother? No. Yet there she is, in your mother's good graces. Tells you something. Most of the power people have over us is power that we give them ourselves. Take it back.

[defguy]

This is a harsh thread... But Menace has it right. She chose a complete stranger over her own flesh and blood. One of the few people who could potentially take care of her into old age when she can no longer take care of herself... Jaylow also brings up a good point that really made some gears start to click in my head.

Speaking from experience (ive done this before) be prepared to disown your mother and stick to it. Ive said it on these threads before, you cant choose your own family, but if you could, would you hang out with those people voluntarily? Ive cut ties with certain people in my own family because i couldnt take the toxic environment. My life got significantly better, and last I heard, their lives got significantly worse. Im so glad i wasnt around for the fallout.

[Mage]

It's a particulary hard red pill to swallow that mothers can be evil people too. Especially if it is your mother.

Once I argued with a conservative christian woman over some political issue (a dumb thing to argue with a woman but I was bored). Another woman defended her: "But she is a mother of three children" implying that for some reason just being mother makes her somehow more right, smarter or more correct or more noble or anything.

To this I replied "It' doesn't take a lot of effort to become a mother"

They became red. Their anger completely overtake them and these uptight and upfront decent christian women started to curse and shout and yell like drunken ghetto prostitutes denied of crack.

The moral is that sadly it requires no qualification to be a mother.

[BigDave]

I love my mom but I stopped listening to her advice the day she told me that I should shave my beard because she read a news poll that women thought facial hair made men look aggressive. Yes mom, that's the point.

[Jaylow]

Get ready to disown your mom? Come on man thats a little bit too harsh.

Use this as a learning experience. Tell your mom how you feel and never bring your ex up again. Make sure there are repercussions they next time she mentions her to you.

[Christian McQueen]

"I've heard through the grapevine that my own mother thinks I should forgive her for sleeping with my friend, getting pregnant, and sticking the bill with me."

Stand up, be a man and ask your mom to her face if this is true. If it is, tell her she's entitled to her own opinion, but to stay out of your business.

Cut off all contact with the conniving cunt ex and your mother if need be (even if it's for a period of time), until she learns to to respect your decisions.

This might sound nuts to newbies, but you vets will get my point:

Utilizing gaming techniques on your own mother works.

It's all about Frame gents with EVERY female.

[Kingsley Davis]

One of the many fucked up realizations i had to come to terms with is that women side with Team Vagina through sheer projection on their part.
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-23479.html

How has your opinion changed?
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-23479-...#pid435852

[The Beast1]

(11-19-2013 02:16 PM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

How has your opinion changed?
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-23479-...#pid435852

You're cruel to have dug up that post.



The answer is a blunt yes.

[Kingsley Davis]

(11-19-2013 02:20 PM)frenchie Wrote:  

(11-19-2013 02:16 PM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

How has your opinion changed?
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-23479-...#pid435852

You're cruel to have dug up that post.



The answer is a blunt yes.

By "cruel" you meant kind. You're still way ahead of the Blu Pilled masses Youngster so...

   

[Merenguero]

(11-19-2013 12:23 PM)frenchie Wrote:  

In fact, I've heard through the grapevine that my own mother thinks I should forgive her for sleeping with my friend, getting pregnant, and sticking the bill with me. My relationship with her has been hella strained as of late and this isn't making it better.

From the way you worded this, at first I thought your mother slept with your friend, got pregnant, and stuck the bill with you. Needless to say, if that were the case, this would be a very interesting thread.

[Dr. Howard]

Your Mom is a woman, she probably loves sex and the city, eat pray love and Oprah. So yes she's going to go all soft on the matter.

My mom decided to stay neutral/try to make see my ex wife's side when she would withold my son from me, deny access, manipulate him. I full on power yelled at her one day with 'the voice' and said "You are on the wrong fucking side of this mom. Your family is on one side and you are on the other. Is that really where you want to be?" She is now on the right side of things.

[The Beast1]

You know, i really appreciate all of the thoughts in this thread. Especially you Kingsley Davis.

Thanks gentlemen. Perspective helps a fuck ton.

[funkyzeit]

I was a beta in my younger days (<18yo) thanks to my mother who taught me to be a white knight. My first 'real' girlfriend was seen with another dude (we were all like 15) and my mother told me to try harder in order to make her be only mine. I didn't know why at the time, but I never told my mother about my relationships with my girlfriends after that, and I've had like 20 girlfirends of 1-6 months after that.

Sometimes it's the mother who is delusional and out of reality. It doesn't mean she hates you or wants bad things to happen to you, it just means she is unable of rational thinking because of her fantasy about her son getting the girl and being a saint.

Ignore their relationship and let them be 'friends' (unless you see the ex trying to use her for money or something like that), help your mom (and not the ex) when she needs help, but be as discrete as possible about who you're dating and what your red pill life choices are. Also firmly tell your mother that you are not going back to the ex and that she must accept that. That's at least how I do things.

[Kingsley Davis]

The ancients had this shit all figured. Men had rites of passage into manhood where boys were removed from their mothers and initiated into been future kings.

"... a Rite of Passage – it’s a journey from boyhood to manhood. It’s the way he breaks away from his attachment to his mother and becomes part of the father tribe. To once again quote Joseph Campbell, the Rite of Passage is a way 'for the individual to die to the past and be reborn to the future.'" - Michael Hiebert."

http://uncabob.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-...ssage.html

[Caveman]

I'll probably sound a bit insulting towards your mother but I have no such intention and I'll try to give you advice that has resulted from my own experience:

Consider your mother to be a mentally incompetent retard, capable of fucking you up when you least expect it. And take this into account in all your dealings with her. For example:

- If you live with her then move out so you can limit the damage she'll be causing you.
- Don't allow her to meet any of your friends or girlfriends.
- Don't allow her any involvement in your business or leisure time.
- Don't allow her to know anything about you that could incriminate you or be used against you.
- ...
- etc.

Like I said I speak from my own experience, I've been harmed by my own mother on some very trivial issues that most men would forget and not pay much attention to, but when I interpolate and realize that in any critical situation how badly she can hurt me, not out of malice but out of sheer stupidity and stuborness, I believe I don't have any other options, it's much better to prevent problems than deal with them later.

And I treat her like this not out of malice, but only so that I can have at least some relationship with her, now of course she always whines that I don't call often enough and never tell her anything about myself, but this is much better than to allow her closer in my life where she can screw me in some major way and then to have to cut her out and never see her again.

So from what you told us about her (wanting you to willfully be a cuckolded idiot), she is definitely a retard incompetent about even the most basic issues of life and should accordingly be treated as such.