[Bushido]

Hi guys. I just wanted to share an incredible new resource with you in the battle against rape culture. Coming soon to a college near you.

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Consent is sexy.

You may feel that asking for consent makes sex too formal.
But it doesn’t need to be.
It can be as simple as, “Is this OK with you?”
Or it can be as hot, as creative, and as sexy as you want to make it!
Discovering what your partner enjoys, then doing it for them, can be very sexy.
(source: http://www.consentissexy.net/consent )

This is really enlightening stuff. Not only is asking for consent respectful, it is sexy too. I can sign up for this! I do hope it gets me laid more though.

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How to Ask for Consent
- Ways to Ask Your Lover:

The site then gives a really interesting list for respecting your lover's boundaries. Very useful. Together we can beat this rape culture that is hurting women so much.

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I'd really like to hug / kiss / touch / ........... you. Would you like to?

This is a real turn-on for girls. Definitely sexy. A female friend of mine said so. I still haven't plucked up the courage to say it to her yet though.

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Is it OK if I take off my shirt / top / bra / pants ?

I admit this was a blind spot for me. I didn't realize that, in the past, I was committing rape by taking off my shirt, not to mention my pants when I found myself alone with a girl. I always assumed that making out with a girl was consent for undressing. I was wrong. While I'm ashamed of my past behaviour in supporting rape culture I will definitely be more careful in future.

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What would do you like me to do for you?

It's always a good thing to ask a girl what she wants. Again, all of my female friends agree with this. I asked them. Remember that our role is to please women. They really love a guy who asks before doing something she might not like. Plus, as an added bonus you can definitely show them you aren't a rapist this way.

Same goes for dates. When discussing which restaurant to choose, "I don't know, where do you want to go?" is now the recommended way to show your solidarity with women fighting male privilege. Give them control over things for once and dates will be not only sexy, but gender-equal too. Girls love it. Trust me. I ALWAYS get a goodnight kiss on the cheek (after getting consent of course) with this strategy.

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"I really feel like making love / having sex with you."

Remember, you should ALWAYS say this before making any sexual moves like god forbid, touching her breasts. The golden rule: If in doubt, it's rape.

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Do you feel like it too?

Even if she seems into it and previously agreed to you kissing her, taking your shirt off, removing your pants and even making love, remember that a girl's feelings can change at any moment. Consent is active. During sex you should confirm she still wants to do it every 1-2 minutes and even then there are no set rules. The key is to remember that every girl is different. Some may require consent each time at each step while others may only need it the first time. Form an understanding of her boundaries of safety and you WILL be rewarded.

[EisenBarde]

Never stick it in until it's notarized.

[T and A Man]

fatisnotsexy.com ?

fatisugly.com ?

What a piece of shit

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When discussing which restaurant to choose, "I don't know, where do you want to go?" is now the recommended way to show your solidarity with women fighting male privilege. Give them control over things for once and dates will be not only sexy, but gender-equal too.

This must have been written by a chick whose never been asked on a date, and only lived fantasies out in her head.

To fight this, I reckon I'm gong to carry a page of 20 question in my wallet, "Consent is sexy - please answer honestly so I'm not a rapist"

Anytime a chick asks me to buy her a drink, pull this out and hand it to her. Any ideas for the most demeaning questions?

"Are you a real woman, or do you say no to anal?"

"Exchanging a free drink in a bar for sex is essentially prostitution. Are you are prositute, or are you a lower form of life, and refuse to give sex?"

for example

[2Wycked]

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Research suggests that many women are in denial about their risk for date rape. Although some women are knowledgeable about date rape, they think it is more likely to happen to others than to themselves.

For accuracy purposes, when I say "rape" I also mean "attempted rape" where appropriate, just to follow the so-called feminist logic.

What I have never understood about college rape stats is why exactly does the 1 in 4 threat start once women put their feet down on college campuses and seems to go away once they graduate?

Sure, feminists claim that high school sexual assault is an issue, but do they claim 1 in 4 women are raped in high school? I've heard that 1 in 3 women are raped in their life in world, but what about America? If 1 in 4 women are raped in college, what about after? Those entitled males lusting for power over women via sex still exist, right? When does the rape fever burn off? If 25% of women are raped in college, when does the violence end? Since feminists rape is purely about power, it make sense it never does.

I would imagine that the number would climb to near 100%, as the average female lives to what, 85? College average graduate age = 22, so 25% of women have been raped exactly 25% of the way through their life. I guess we have to ignore whether the 1 in 4 college stat necessarily includes childhood abuse and the aforementioned high school years. Since no women ever puts herself in danger of sexual assault and rape is simply an extension of male privilege and claims over female sexual sovereignty, it means every female will be raped at least once, if not many more times, before she dies in a nursing home.

Recall my thread on the Salem Witch Trials, which sheds light on why American's have had such a conflicting relationship with sexuality.

Back on point, if all this is so, why do so many of these purported rapes happen on dates and involve forcible vaginal penetration? Are they aware how penises get erect? Why do they involve young people who haven't married, minus the stray example of a marital rape? What about elder rape? Cougar rape? Third-time divorcee rape?

Many of the stories feminists tell about rape talk about a seemingly-consensual sexual situation or dating situation which ends with rape. As in, consent wasn't given and the female simply went along or a woman turns a man down for sex, then he proceeds to rape her. Don't these feminists realize these made-up stats were invented by anti-sex radical feminists who simply wanted to chill out heterosexuality?

Would these feminists argue, in my two above examples, the man *always* had rape in his mind? Or was there a "rape inflection point," by which an entitled male who is turned down by a woman reasserts his power over the situation by forcibly taking her? So if she says yes, its cool, he isn't a rapist, even he would have raped if she said no to sex? No matter how you slice it, feminists create ideologies in which men can never shed the label and perception of being, at least, potential rapists. Recall my analysis about how women have used, time immemorial, that all men are beasts to soothe out their own personal issues.

Back on point, I know this sounds crazy, but this is our opposition. No logic, facts or even just simple rationality backs up their points. No matter how you challenge their assertions, feminists know they look crazy (they don't care whether they are wrong - they feel no guilt, as a class) so do they best to dress up their rhetoric. They are most prevalent on college campuses simply because of government funding + lack of accountability + strong left-wing politics of college campuses.

I ask: Why do these people want to believe so badly that women are so thoroughly wronged by men? They want to believe it is men who want to forcibly bend women to their will through sex. Think about that. Any connection to "50 Shades of Grey?" The worst part is, of course, they do it but inventing fictional rape ghosts that rape women they don't know or care about. They just further divide men and women, which is what they want. Needing to burn off all that social rage, they get a socially approved outlet.

Please, rape apology isn't a mainstream thing. If it was, feminists wouldn't say a damn thing about rape.

[Saladin]

Haha this is some dumb shit. Can't believe guys listen to this. Ask before you take your shirts off?

Taking your dick out is a must and works very well. When i've busted past lmr its cause i took my dick out. The times I've had girls back in my room but didn't get action beyond a makeout is when I was too much of a bitch to take my dick out.

[aphelion]

What I'm curious about is why we keep sending our young, vulnerable women into these rape dens. I wouldn't send my daughter anywhere that she had a 1 in 4 chance of being raped. College seems to be the wrong choice, wouldn't you agree?

[2Wycked]

(11-08-2013 01:42 AM)aphelion Wrote:  

What I'm curious about is why we keep sending our young, vulnerable women into these rape dens. I wouldn't send my daughter anywhere that she had a 1 in 4 chance of being raped. College seems to be the wrong choice, wouldn't you agree?

No, because they would say that is precisely why college is important for women - men rape so much on campus to deter women from obtaining a degree - all that precious power we are jealously trying to prevent women from accessing.

In real life, when some idiot brings up campus rape or rape culture ask them why rape happens so much - you'll get something like the above about men oppressing women systematically.

I always respond, "Really? I'll be sure to bring it up at the next union meeting."

[Vicious]

That 1 in 4 is raped in college statistic that everyone on Jizzabel is citing comes from an online poll that defined forceful kissing as rape as well. Yeah you can see how it's a bullshit stat.

It was brutally debunked as well in an article I read some time back. Got the link at home, I'll have to dig it out.

[Bushido]

You have to admit though, they really do make this consent thing look sexy.

[T and A Man]

(11-08-2013 02:06 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

You have to admit though, they really do make this consent thing look sexy.

The empirical evidence is that western society's future entrepreneurs are fleeing to Asia, whilst this here... the master race... is suffocating in it's own smugnesswhilst wearing turtlenecks and brandishing feel good motherhood statements.

I'dsay none of them 'get it'.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

I've actually uttered some of these statements earlier in life. My reward was of course crushing celibacy.

[HeyPete]

(11-08-2013 02:06 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

You have to admit though, they really do make this consent thing look sexy.

Those two older broads on the left are creepy.

[Benoit]

(11-08-2013 01:27 AM)T and A Man Wrote:  

"Exchanging a free drink in a bar for sex is essentially prostitution. Are you are prositute, or are you a lower form of life, and refuse to give sex?"

Better to make the questions traps like "when did you stop beating your wife?":

"Exchanging a free drink in a bar for sex is essentially prostitution. Are you are prositute, or are you a fraud?"

[Veloce]

(11-08-2013 02:06 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

You have to admit though, they really do make this consent thing look sexy.

Holy shit, just by appearances alone that could easily be a local chapter meeting for Scientology or Heaven's Gate or Branch Davidians.

Anytime someone brings up consent just hit em with this:

[Agent 47]

May i have pemission to ravage you?
May i put it in?
May i switch positions?
Can you get on your knees?
Can you do this,that, and this?
Can i look at you?

OMG SO HAWT!!!

"I love it when you ask me for consent!"
Said no women ever...

"I don't always rape, but when i do...
I always ask for consent."

Stay horny, my friends...

[Bacchus]

(11-08-2013 02:06 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

You have to admit though, they really do make this consent thing look sexy.

These are the same people who would attend a slutwalk. Good to see them wearing clothes.

[MikeCF]

I don't know if "irony" is the right word….But…

Talk to some of the guys here who do dom type stuff. Consent is always actively obtained beforehand and it doesn't slow the momentum down.

So it's always struck me as funny that when you're going to have garden variety, vanilla sex with a woman, consent is a tricky thing.

But when you take a girl to really dark places, consent is well-established beforehand.

The key to making consent sexy, understanding the female nature, is to not ask. It's to tell her what you're going to do to her.

"I'm going to bend you over my couch and leave hand marks on your ass."

If she's really not into it, she'll give a hard no. If she gives a soft no, then you say, "Oh yeah? Do you think you can stop me?" She will smirk and be up for the challenge.

She won't lose interest in the same way she would if you asked permission and in fact her need to know she has consented will be honored.

Where guys get into trouble is when they just try "surprise sex" type stuff or push to far physically without telling her what you're going to do.

Of course the social intelligence/awareness aspect is that you're not running a play-by-play.

There are ways to reconcile red pill knowledge of women with amorphous concepts like consent. That is one way.

[MikeCF]

(11-08-2013 11:54 AM)Agent 47 Wrote:  

May i have pemission to ravage you?
May i put it in?
May i switch positions?
Can you get on your knees?
Can you do this,that, and this?
Can i look at you?

OMG SO HAWT!!!

That's a good example of not really getting how to obtain consent while keeping a dominant frame.

You can tell a girl, for example, "Where do you want me to cum?" rather than just bust on her face.

Or say, "I'm going to cum on your face," and see if she gives a hard no.

And yes, men should talk more during sex.

Don't ask to switch positions, but tell her what to do. "Get on all fours. Put your face down into the pillow."

This gives her a chance to give a hard no. (A hard no is a really, "no, really, I'm not doing that" rather than the usual, "I'm going to say no to see what you say" shit.)

So while the nuts and bolts of the article is wrong, I agree with it.

Communicate more before and during sex! Let her know what you're doing to do rather than just springing something on her.

It makes sex better and if you like the really rough stuff, you need to learn to master this type of communication.

[MrXY]

(11-08-2013 02:06 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

You have to admit though, they really do make this consent thing look sexy.

Look at those dorks

Went to sexual consent seminar

Didn't get laid

[Mr. Plow]

This assumes women lack the ability to say no, it also assumes men lack the intelligence to know when they are doing something wrong.

It's part of the bogus rape culture that feminists are pushing on society. There is rape culture for prisons, and a apparently high school foot ball players, but not in the way these people are presenting it.

If a woman is jerking you off, then taking off her pants doesn't need a verbal question. As you slowly move into positions, as long as you show her what you are doing, and aren't trying to sneak attack her, then there is no need for words.

[kosko]

(11-08-2013 02:06 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

You have to admit though, they really do make this consent thing look sexy.

None of those dudes get laid, you can just see it in their eyes and mannerisms in the photos. They don't 100% vouch for that cause, you can see they don't believe in it. They troll these groups to try and get it in with those female volunteers. Fucking pathetic.

Lets look at a real group photo of legitimate enthusiasm. Yes its after a amazing high of a championship but you can see the respect for each other and the end goal they achieved:



Always study peoples faces and mannerisms. It tells so fuking much. Those dudes pictured in the consent pic are all frauds (*Except the dude in the left in the suit, he has the only legitimate face from a male of the group*).

[scotian]

My thoughts on consent: No means yes and yes means anal.

[The Lizard of Oz]

(11-08-2013 09:07 PM)kosko Wrote:  

Always study peoples faces and mannerisms. It tells so fuking much. Those dudes pictured in the consent pic are all frauds (*Except the dude in the left in the suit, he has the only legitimate face from a male of the group*).

See this why I love this forum. Because kosko doesn't just make the valid general point about the consent pic manginas, but he scruples to note the suited up dude on the left with the big grin who indeed has the only non-mangina mug of the whole crew.

When you're loving life and thinking straight, that's the kind of shit you bother to note because truth and reality matter to you.

So much writing everywhere is just there to make this or that thin ideological point and it would never note the dude on the left because it thinks he doesn't matter. And that's why so much writing is so fucking dull. But on the RVF you'll see an observation like this one by kosko and it's f'ing golden.

[Suits]

(11-08-2013 09:07 PM)kosko Wrote:  

Always study peoples faces and mannerisms. It tells so fuking much. Those dudes pictured in the consent pic are all frauds (*Except the dude in the left in the suit, he has the only legitimate face from a male of the group*).

It's probably because he's the only one being paid to be there. Judging by the suit, it may be part of his job and there is nothing more alpha than getting paid to tell women what they want to here.

[Jaydublin]

Why is it so hard for the girls to just say no? If somebody tries to force me into a situation I don't want to be in I will just speak up, its that simple. It is not necessary for them to ask me first.