I've been taking a break from the manosphere for business reasons. But I came back temporarily to comment on this. I have some inside knowledge about her and what's being discussed. I'll do my usual number thing.
About Deen:
1). Regarding "consent" to beat up a woman, like Deen does -- be careful with this, especially with younger women. What a woman "consents" to at night might just prompt her to call in her her father, her lawyer, or the cops when she sees the bruises on her body the next day. Do NOT assume women are rational about this. You've heard of "regret rape?" Well, there's "regret violence" as well.
2). What feminists don't realize is that Deen's violent videos have a ripple effect. Teens see this and take for granted what we see as a "turn off" (which someone mentioned). So to turn their cliche around: "Would you want this done to your sister?" Or future wife? If you say "yes," you're a liar.
3). The mainstreaming of this type of sexual violence is rungs below anything even the worst of us here have promoted. It infuriates me that Deen gets a pass giving women bruises yet PUAs are "evil" for bedding women. This is the morality of Sodom and Gomorrah. Actually, this is the morality of today's feminism, which is about the same thing.
I may be in touch in the future about doing something on Deen that makes explicit what he's doing and feminist's complicity in it.
About Jenn Tisdale:
1). She is not Ashley's sister although they share the same name. She is not a writer. She's a would-be comedienne trying to make it in the DC scene -- and this is the closest she's gotten to fame. As for writing, she's written entries on a DC blog called Brightest Young Things. That's it as far as I can tell.
2). Here is an interview where she talks about her background. No dad. "Dads who vamoose make girls who are loose."
3). More on her is included in the full video with Deen. She says her breasts are fake. She's thinking about having them "replaced." She's talks about tapping into her 401K to do this.
4). Linkedin shows that 401K comes courtesy of a Baltimore law firm called Goldberg, Godles, Wiener & Wright where she (probably still) works.
5). If she does still work there, it'll be hard to explain it when the full clip inevitably appears under her real name on one of the porn streaming sites.
6). Deen has a hard time getting it up in the video. You'd think he'd at least have popped a Viagra. The preview clip is actually better than the full thing.
About Deen:
1). Regarding "consent" to beat up a woman, like Deen does -- be careful with this, especially with younger women. What a woman "consents" to at night might just prompt her to call in her her father, her lawyer, or the cops when she sees the bruises on her body the next day. Do NOT assume women are rational about this. You've heard of "regret rape?" Well, there's "regret violence" as well.
2). What feminists don't realize is that Deen's violent videos have a ripple effect. Teens see this and take for granted what we see as a "turn off" (which someone mentioned). So to turn their cliche around: "Would you want this done to your sister?" Or future wife? If you say "yes," you're a liar.
3). The mainstreaming of this type of sexual violence is rungs below anything even the worst of us here have promoted. It infuriates me that Deen gets a pass giving women bruises yet PUAs are "evil" for bedding women. This is the morality of Sodom and Gomorrah. Actually, this is the morality of today's feminism, which is about the same thing.
I may be in touch in the future about doing something on Deen that makes explicit what he's doing and feminist's complicity in it.
About Jenn Tisdale:
1). She is not Ashley's sister although they share the same name. She is not a writer. She's a would-be comedienne trying to make it in the DC scene -- and this is the closest she's gotten to fame. As for writing, she's written entries on a DC blog called Brightest Young Things. That's it as far as I can tell.
2). Here is an interview where she talks about her background. No dad. "Dads who vamoose make girls who are loose."
3). More on her is included in the full video with Deen. She says her breasts are fake. She's thinking about having them "replaced." She's talks about tapping into her 401K to do this.
4). Linkedin shows that 401K comes courtesy of a Baltimore law firm called Goldberg, Godles, Wiener & Wright where she (probably still) works.
5). If she does still work there, it'll be hard to explain it when the full clip inevitably appears under her real name on one of the porn streaming sites.
6). Deen has a hard time getting it up in the video. You'd think he'd at least have popped a Viagra. The preview clip is actually better than the full thing.