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(11-07-2013 07:54 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(11-07-2013 07:25 PM)20Nation Wrote:  

I can definitely see where you are coming from. Some of the online and night game girls can be really iffy, but I'm telling you right now plenty of those girls have been normal. I have key logged more like 25 girls, I just chose some of my favorites. There are some obvious slutty girls I just didn't put in the book.

I used to be mormon and it has made me pretty good at getting the "good girl type" thanks to spending most of my life gaming them.

I think the only bais is that all the girls from there are girls with plenty of options (most from the 10 were pretty hot), and maybe if you take away a girls options or if you really date down in terms of dating value, she would stay very loyal.

"If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you"

Some old-time wisdom in a song.

These days ugly women absorb so much bullshit self-esteem and phony confidence that they are worse to deal with than the cute ones.

[bodmon]

could i get a pdf version? i don't have a kindle

[MidniteSpecial]

Got done with your first girl. The caring one. Ironically you were the caring one. And you paid because of it. Once you became jealous the first time demanding to see her messages you didn't stand a chance keeping her loyal after that. Just my opinion.

Entertaining read none the less.

[WestIndianArchie]

(11-07-2013 07:14 PM)n0000 Wrote:  

It is an interesting read, but the problem is one of selection bias. Guys on this forum are going to attract certain girls because they use similar techniques to get these girls.

[Bushido]

Good read.

To be honest, I feel like you trumped up your emotions a little excessively. I'm assuming that was to appeal to a wider audience for the book so that is fair enough. But I mean, come on, there are only so many times you can feel devastated or shocked by finding out about a girl messaging other guys when it kept happening to you over and over. I also feel like you were seeking drama instead of just walking away but I guess that makes for a more interesting book.

All in all though it is a useful book. It's nice to be reminded of the basics from time to time.

Our male ego often deceives us into thinking we are special to a girl.

It's easy to fall into the trap of thinking your game is too tight for a girl to be seeing other guys. Or you might think that you found a unique girl who will never do these things. I see that tendency in some of the comments above. "Avoid club sluts!" or "Stick to daygame" etc.

I have news for you. Women are so predictable when it comes to this stuff it's not even funny. Stop looking for exceptions and swallow the red pill once and for all. Of course you should always strive to be the best man you can be but you're not invincible. There are always other options. I come to expect these things from girls now. Girls will contact other guys. They will go on dates behind your back. They will sometimes even fuck other guys. Get over it.

Example case:

Recently I was dating a VERY feminine, shy, submissive "good girl". She brought a homemade lunchbox for me on our 2nd date. She told her mother about me by the 3rd date. Very caring great girl all round but things eventually fell apart. In one of the last times we spoke she admitted to going on a date with another guy while we were still official although she denied doing anything.

My reaction? Nothing. I didn't really care either way by this stage and none of this came as a surprise. Girls do this shit. Learn to expect it. Date multiple girls. Problem solved.

[XXL]

Great book!

If you really want little naive boys to get the message then you should find a way to make a movie based on your ten stories. I can imagine the final scene. The main character looking at the busy street through the window of his apartment. Then a couple of flashes of random people flirting with each other mix with the flashes of same flirtations that he had that turned out to be nothing but lies. Back and forth. Meanwhile the narrator is reading his thoughts (final thoughts of you book). Fade to black

The movie would be awesome!

[20Nation]

Thanks everybody for the support and feedback.

@XXL A movie is just what the betas of the world need to see, and yes that would be a sweet ending. You have a director's eye

(11-08-2013 04:21 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

Good read.

To be honest, I feel like you trumped up your emotions a little excessively. I'm assuming that was to appeal to a wider audience for the book so that is fair enough. But I mean, come on, there are only so many times you can feel devastated or shocked by finding out about a girl messaging other guys when it kept happening to you over and over. I also feel like you were seeking drama instead of just walking away but I guess that makes for a more interesting book.

All in all though it is a useful book. It's nice to be reminded of the basics from time to time.

Our male ego often deceives us into thinking we are special to a girl.

It's easy to fall into the trap of thinking your game is too tight for a girl to be seeing other guys. Or you might think that you found a unique girl who will never do these things. I see that tendency in some of the comments above. "Avoid club sluts!" or "Stick to daygame" etc.

I have news for you. Women are so predictable when it comes to this stuff it's not even funny. Stop looking for exceptions and swallow the red pill once and for all. Of course you should always strive to be the best man you can be but you're not invincible. There are always other options. I come to expect these things from girls now. Girls will contact other guys. They will go on dates behind your back. They will sometimes even fuck other guys. Get over it.

Example case:

Recently I was dating a VERY feminine, shy, submissive "good girl". She brought a homemade lunchbox for me on our 2nd date. She told her mother about me by the 3rd date. Very caring great girl all round but things eventually fell apart. In one of the last times we spoke she admitted to going on a date with another guy while we were still official although she denied doing anything.

My reaction? Nothing. I didn't really care either way by this stage and none of this came as a surprise. Girls do this shit. Learn to expect it. Date multiple girls. Problem solved.

To be honest I just gave girls the benefit of the doubt, it took me a while to figure out, but eventually I did. I would meet girls that seemed so sweet and I would think this will be different. Obviously I didn't 100% believe it or I wouldn't even have used the key logger, but when you start feeling something for somebody, even if you have expect it, it will still suck.

[Every10GivesMeA10]

Does anyone know a good keylogger?

[20Nation]

(11-07-2013 09:10 PM)markus85 Wrote:  

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I can definitely see where you are coming from. Some of the online and night game girls can be really iffy, but I'm telling you right now plenty of those girls have been normal. I have key logged more like 25 girls, I just chose some of my favorites. There are some obvious slutty girls I just didn't put in the book.

I used to be mormon and it has made me pretty good at getting the "good girl type" thanks to spending most of my life gaming them.

I think the only bais is that all the girls from there are girls with plenty of options (most from the 10 were pretty hot), and maybe if you take away a girls options or if you really date down in terms of dating value, she would stay very loyal.

One of the girls I'm seeing right now is from a Mormon family...obviously her fucking my brains out she doesn't take her faith that seriously

Her two sisters in their late 20's are staying with her atm. Both still single virgins and much hotter than the one I'm seeing. They both go to mormon single dances/events which name escapes me but they say the guys are extremely shy there. Any tips on how to game these girls?

Gaming mormon girls isn't easy, but there are some mormon girls that are "Jack Mormons" and are easy. However, the other girls aren't easy to game. Never make fun of their church. You have to take everything slow. Try to be a bit of a bad boy with a good heart. If you want sex you will have start dating them and break them down slowly. Just keep pushing more and more, when they ask why you keep pushing towards it just say "this is how I was raised and it's because I am so attracted to you. Would it be better if I wasn't attracted to you?" Of course she will respond with no and she will put up with your constant pushing of the boundaries.

Most mormon girls do break with a serious boyfriend eventually just from this (although they want the world to believe it never happened, even their future husbands). "I popped my cherry riding horses."

[20Nation]

(11-08-2013 10:55 AM)Every10GivesMeA10 Wrote:  

Does anyone know a good keylogger?

I used kgb logger. Sometimes I was worried it was spyware, but nothing in my bank accounts has disappeared yet.

[Every10GivesMeA10]

KGB Keylogger? That name scares me.

[MY DETROIT PLAYAS]

Good read

In this day and age, I am ALWAYS skeptical of women I meet. That's the best way to play the Game. Guilty until proven innocent, not the other way around. As a matter of fact, the extra attentive lovey-dovey, quick to pass out pet name chicks are the MOST suspect. The sweeter the talk the more I feel like they THINK they have a trick on their hands. Leading him to the slaughter. But in the words of the Great Sugafee, DON'T NO SUCKAS LIVE HERE.

However, I do agree with some earlier posts from cats. Nice to have one more tool in the shed for those new to this, or for those getting BACK into the game. Stay strapped.

[markus85]

Thanks for the book! Great red pill content...dug up some memories from my past relationships.

My longest LTR (2 years) she actually seen a total of 4 different guys that I knew about which was obviously probably much more. This isn't counting all the drunken make outs at clubs etc. Females will rationalize any reason to absolve themselves of any blame. Mine's used to be me not being attentive enough...that's why LTR's are not for me. I don't want to have to lavish a girl with attention and live in her pocket 24/7 so she doesn't stray.

[FunctionalPsycho]

Read the book in a single sitting. Common red-pill knowledge but will be very shocking for the public. Hope it gets wide publicity.

[MidniteSpecial]

Just finished it. Nice read man. Thanks for the free copy. Going to check out your others now.

Your conclusion summed up pretty much everything I was going to comment here.

Being jealous and insecure will just lead your woman elsewhere anyway. A lot of the time even though you established a good relationship very fast I think that was just the problem though. It happened to fast. Therefore to assume you were the only one within the first few weeks of meeting a girl is naive as well.

But the points you made about females are spot on man.

[20Nation]

Thanks for the support fellas. If you could just leave a review on Amazon after reading, you would help out the book a lot.

[svenski7]

Skimmed through it. Will read in full this weekend. Truly groundbreaking research here.

[Young Traveller]

Honestly, it was really amazing. It kept me wanting to read more and more .

It opened my eyes even more and thank you so much for going through all of that and still being able to write this.

[mental]

Just downloaded it. Will give it a read, but if your conclusions are anything like mine when I used dSploit to find girls passwords in bars, it should be very interesting...

[iknowexactly]

(11-08-2013 09:18 AM)XXL Wrote:  

Great book!

If you really want little naive boys to get the message then you should find a way to make a movie based on your ten stories. I can imagine the final scene. The main character looking at the busy street through the window of his apartment. Then a couple of flashes of random people flirting with each other mix with the flashes of same flirtations that he had that turned out to be nothing but lies. Back and forth. Meanwhile the narrator is reading his thoughts (final thoughts of you book). Fade to black

The movie would be awesome!

This book has a winning premise. I advise the author to follow up like a motherfucker like Neil did.

But if you don't have the stomach for Hollywood assholes
I can make this happen.

Not with Hollywood level money, but micro-budget sneakiness, inventiveness, dimwitted belief I can not be stopped, and sheer arrogance.

PM me if you want to see this happen.

[Sourcecode]

Downloaded it to my kindle and I look forward to reading and reviewing it

[scotian]

20nation, I think the only solution to this problem is that you'll have to stop banging such hot women.

[NYJ]

Review posted on amazon.

[articulatecool]

may we ask what keylogger you used? or is that mentioned in your book?

thanks for the read btw!

[wi30]

Finished it yesterday. Thanks for sharing. I'll write up a good review on Amazon.