[MongolianAbroad]

(01-10-2014 09:04 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 11:43 PM)Scott Free Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 11:40 PM)DirectDanger Wrote:  

The girls at the top I have hung out with seem to have more of an American attitude, which is not something I am looking for.

Hahaha! Ex-fucking-actly!

As soon as women get access to money, physical and social mobility and OPTIONS, they ALL cunt up. It's just market forces.

Hypergamy is universal and eternal. Even gerbils probably do it. Although I don't know that from personal experience.

Hahaha!

[SeaFM]

(10-19-2014 04:17 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 09:29 AM)daswasser Wrote:  

And in my opinion the pollution around there is not thatbad. What you would expect from an Asian city more or less.

I'm here near the Manila area right now, so I am being a bit hypocritical, but after almost two months here I've made a decision that I will not live in any of these very polluted cities for more than a couple months. (Manila, Cebu, probably a ton of other Asian cities). If one does, I think it is suicidally dense to not get a HEPA air filter for your apartment ( about $120 here in Ace Hardware for one that's $70 in the States.)

If you don't HAVE an air filter, YOU ARE the air filter.

For your own benefit, I would not rely on subjective impressions of the air in Manila or other developing country cities with no real controls on emissions. Those particles are going down in your lungs every day, and a certain proportion never come back out, they stay in there, gradually gumming up and reducing the capacity of your lungs. It's insidious and gradual.

One day, you feel short of breath,and think it's a temporary thing. And find out it's not.

Here's just one guy's story about being diagnosed with COPD after living in Manila 4 years. The "C" is for chronic, polite medical speak for "it never goes away, you've got it for life."

http://timotraveling.blogspot.com/2012/0...-read.html

"I had never had problems when I was in the USA, before living in Metro Manila; however, after living in the Philippines for almost 4 years I was diagnosed as having COPD."

Quoting myself:

"This should be even more a concern for you younger guys because the lung damage takes a long time to accumulate and become symptomatic, and there's no real treatment for COPD."

The girl I saw today told me her father died at 46. I asked her if he smoked, knowing the answer before she told me. When you add smoking to Manila air, you are truly in effect asking to die young.

Just a shot in the dark here...but is there anywhere close to Metro Manila that you would consider the air "clean"?

Manila really gets to me after a while. I go to Galera a lot now just to get away from it. The Jeeps shitting out diesel exhaust 24/7 has got to take its' toll eventually.

[Malo]

BGC is probably your best bet.

[SeaFM]

Well yeah but I find the environment too sterile there, and now it's totally unaffordable anyway.

I meant more on the outskirts like Sucat or Cavite. I thought I found a nice complex but upon further research discovered there is a chemical plant next door and I don't want to breathe that.

Maybe I'm better suited for province life.

[Malo]

(04-27-2018 09:37 AM)SeaFM Wrote:  

Well yeah but I find the environment too sterile there, and now it's totally unaffordable anyway.

True that.

[thoughtgypsy]

(04-27-2018 05:35 AM)SeaFM Wrote:  

Just a shot in the dark here...but is there anywhere close to Metro Manila that you would consider the air "clean"?

Manila really gets to me after a while. I go to Galera a lot now just to get away from it. The Jeeps shitting out diesel exhaust 24/7 has got to take its' toll eventually.

Look for the areas where Jeepneys (PUVs) are banned, you'll be fine. Manila is on par, or better than many Chinese cities when it comes to pollution. I like Ortigas west of ADB ave, north of Shaw blvd. Should be better now that monsoon season is approaching.

[Tail Gunner]

(04-27-2018 09:43 AM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  

(04-27-2018 05:35 AM)SeaFM Wrote:  

Just a shot in the dark here...but is there anywhere close to Metro Manila that you would consider the air "clean"?

Manila really gets to me after a while. I go to Galera a lot now just to get away from it. The Jeeps shitting out diesel exhaust 24/7 has got to take its' toll eventually.

Look for the areas where Jeepneys (PUVs) are banned, you'll be fine. Manila is on par, or better than many Chinese cities when it comes to pollution.

That is not saying much. There are cities in China that rarely see the sun (because of air pollution).

Air pollution is probably my biggest concern with staying in Manila longer term. Staying in areas where Jeepneys are banned is a good idea. Where is that information available? Or do you just need to know the local areas?

BTW: Anyone know whether the large malls filter their air?

[SeaFM]

I found some pollution guide by googling "cleanest air in the Philippines" and surprisingly Manila is nowhere near the top.

The ranking was 14. Toronto was 8. Several cities in China and India were way worse.

Still though. Manila is polluted to hell. Good things aside, breathing poison is not good for anyone.

[AsiaBaller]

(04-27-2018 10:01 AM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  

Air pollution is probably my biggest concern with staying in Manila longer term. Staying in areas where Jeepneys are banned is a good idea. Where is that information available? Or do you just need to know the local areas?

How so? Even in Beijing which is one of the cities with the most polluted air on the planet you can get an air filter in your place and live just fine.

It's not like you're going to chill in the park having a picnic in Manila. It's 3rd world proper...

[thoughtgypsy]

(04-27-2018 02:05 PM)AsiaBaller Wrote:  

(04-27-2018 10:01 AM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  

Air pollution is probably my biggest concern with staying in Manila longer term. Staying in areas where Jeepneys are banned is a good idea. Where is that information available? Or do you just need to know the local areas?

How so? Even in Beijing which is one of the cities with the most polluted air on the planet you can get an air filter in your place and live just fine.

It's not like you're going to chill in the park having a picnic in Manila. It's 3rd world proper...

I used to do picnics a lot when I lived in Legazpi village. Washington Cysip park is quite nice, in a great part of town. It's been newly renovated. Thought it was going to take forever, but I was surprised to see it already complete last time I went through the neighborhood.

There's actually some decent neighborhoods in Manila that help you forget you're in the 3rd world (except for certain things like dealing with customer service), though you'll have to pay more for them. Still cheaper compared to places with similar levels of convenience in the west. I've seen pictures of 2nd and 3rd tier China that look just as modern and clean at lower prices, though that may be uncomfortable for some guys for different reasons.

[thoughtgypsy]

I don't know of any resources which say which areas specifically ban jeepneys/trikes, but generally it's in the central business and upper class areas. Makati is mixed. It serves 2 purposes, one of which is better air quality. The other is pricing out the lower class from accessing the areas easily.

Another thing I'd recommend is staying in a place away from one the main roads if you can manage. Or if you can't, to stay on the side of the building facing away from it. Not only is the pollution a concern, but also the light and noise. It can make sleeping difficult and ruin your peace of mind during the day.

If you can stay in a central business district here and experience near total silence, it's really a peaceful feeling. Sometimes I feel like I'm still in the province and it helps put my mind at ease.

[AsiaBaller]

(04-27-2018 06:44 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  

There's actually some decent neighborhoods in Manila that help you forget you're in the 3rd world (except for certain things like dealing with customer service), though you'll have to pay more for them. Still cheaper compared to places with similar levels of convenience in the west. I've seen pictures of 2nd and 3rd tier China that look just as modern and clean at lower prices, though that may be uncomfortable for some guys for different reasons.

I used to live in 2nd tier China. Paid $400 for a penthouse'ish place, could walk around everywhere, definitely much better than the Philippines, however the prices last 2-3 years and then you'll quickly pay substantially more. Making a really long term contract may or may not work out as Chinese people are very cut throat for the most part and might reneg when they see rents rising far beyond increases written in your contract. Buying is usually not a feasible option.

Also nobody speak English and you can't just roll up there and live there but you'll need a work or spousal visa.