[Roosh]

A gang of Romanian criminals (burglary, prostitution) emigrated to Netherlands where they pursued a life of crime. They came up with the idea to rob a museum and got off with 18 million euros worth of art by Picasso, Gauguin, Matisse, Monet, Meijer de Haan and Freud, a selection of Europe's best artists.

Unable to sell the paintings on the black market, and on the run from authorities, the paintings were given to one of the criminals' mother, who, to protect her son, BURNED the paintings. They are gone, forever. Fascinating story:

http://www.nrc.nl/kunsthal-en/

This will not make European governments question their EU project, because the Western/Northern countries need the immigration to keep their population numbers growing.

[Christian McQueen]

"At the Kunsthal there are no security guards at night – cameras and alarms do all the work."

^^^They are fucking morons. You have hundreds of millions of dollars worth of art and yet you don't hire minimum wage security guards?

Rule #1 of Crime when stealing: have a buyer BEFORE you steal.

Crime 101

[WanderingSoul]

Next Marky Mark movie for sure.

[LeBeau]

(11-04-2013 08:58 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

A gang of Romanian criminals (burglary, prostitution) emigrated to Netherlands where they pursued a life of crime. They came up with the idea to rob a museum and got off with 18 million euros worth of art by Picasso, Gauguin, Matisse, Monet, Meijer de Haan and Freud, a selection of Europe's best artists.

Unable to sell the paintings on the black market, and on the run from authorities, the paintings were given to one of the criminals' mother, who, to protect her son, BURNED the paintings. They are gone, forever. Fascinating story:

http://www.nrc.nl/kunsthal-en/

This will not make European governments question their EU project, because the Western/Northern countries need the immigration to keep their population numbers growing.

[The Lizard of Oz]

Hard to blame these shortsighted but enterprising Romanian scumbags. 18mm Euros still buys you plenty of blonde Dutch pussy, elite North Korean Viagra, good coke, stupid fucking yachts, and whatever else gets you there.

As for those paintings... let's just say they had their long day in the shade. Nothing wrong with a good bonfire once in a while.

[MikeCF]

(11-04-2013 09:05 PM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  

"At the Kunsthal there are no security guards at night – cameras and alarms do all the work."

^^^They are fucking morons. You have hundreds of millions of dollars worth of art and yet you don't hire minimum wage security guards?

Crime 101

Yessir, for us and most places.

The Netherlands is extremely civilized.

That's why they and other civilized Western Europeans are getting raped by the gypsies, Romanians, jihadist Muslims, etc.

It's blue pill thinking that "all cultures are the same" or that "if you bring uncivilized people into a civilized country, the uncivilized will become civilized."

[pheonix500000]

why in the world would you burn it, hide it somewhere. If it was a body i would understand but things like that could've been used as a bargaining chip at the very least.

[WesternCancer]

(11-04-2013 10:12 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

The Netherlands is extremely civilized.

That's why they and other civilized Western Europeans are getting raped by the gypsies, Romanians, jihadist Muslims, etc.

It's blue pill thinking that "all cultures are the same" or that "if you bring uncivilized people into a civilized country, the uncivilized will become civilized."

There was a 14 part series in the province (Vancouver newspaper) recently about "racism in paradise" they ended the series with an article discussing the notion that people coming into Canada should get a primer course on Canadian customs/culture.

Of course the SWPLs in their ivory tower angrily disagreed and said how horrible and unfair that was in their typical fashion.

Meanwhile in the previous parts of the series there were whole articles ranging honor killing of women and how they are treated like dogs in some cultures, to little things like other cultures not recognizing the function of lining up at starbucks or spitting all over the place etc.

They only ever think of the good parts of having so many cultures in a small area without a set of rules on how society works.

It was recently Diwali. (Hindu holiday) at work the same guy sharing traditional sweets and celebrating the holiday was the same guy who told a girl at work that she should be bowing to him because she is beneath him.

[Therapsid]

The story here is that the mother was taking care of her son.

Any mom worthy of the name will happily burn every last artistic treasure on this earth to protect her children.

Personally, I don't feel too bad about it.

Almost every ancient Greek statue we have passed down to us is in fact a Roman copy.

These paintings aren't gone forever. We can create perfect replicas at will with current technology.

[soup]

This thread reminds me of other wishful thinking gone wrong.

[Tuthmosis]

The two Monets they took are supremely unimpressive. Those probably should have been burned years ago.

[Arg expert]

Crazy gipsy mother burned our European cultural treasures!? Okey, this is the payback she should get :

[Tuthmosis]

Old women, it seems, shouldn't be allowed fine art. Remember this story?

   

[soup]

(11-05-2013 02:27 AM)Arg expert Wrote:  

Crazy gipsy mother burned our European cultural treasures!? Okey, this is the payback she should get :

Promoting death attacks on RVF? Are you trying to make us look like supreme assholes?

With all the shit this forum gets, the last thing we need is death threaters/attack trolls

[cardguy]

I think all paintings are rubbish. To me a can of coke is as visually interesting as 'The Last Supper'.

So - I am not bothered about a few "masterpieces" being destroyed.

[soup]

(11-05-2013 02:53 AM)cardguy Wrote:  

I think all paintings are rubbish. To me a can of coke is as visually interesting as 'The Last Supper'.

So - I am not bothered about a few "masterpieces" being destroyed.

Elaborate.

[Prufrock]

(11-05-2013 02:53 AM)cardguy Wrote:  

I think all paintings are rubbish. To me a can of coke is as visually interesting as 'The Last Supper'.

lol

Ever hear of pop art?

It's been said before, but art is one of those little things that separates us from animals.

(11-05-2013 02:53 AM)cardguy Wrote:  

So - I am not bothered about a few "masterpieces" being destroyed.

Paging Laszlo Toth...

"Couldn't save La Pietà....smashed up before we got there."

[Caligula]

It's like in Pusher II when Tonny steals a Ferrari without a buyer. Idiots.

The tide is turning against lax immigration policies in Europe. 20 parliamentary seats for the Swedish Democrats in the last election, 25 for the Danish People's Party and the Swiss People's Party polling at 29%.

[j r]

Apparently this is common in art thefts (the lack of a buyer, not mom burning paintings). There only so many brokers and very rich art collectors in the world and most of them aren't going to pay millions of dollars for stolen paintings.

Most of the well known pieces of art that are stolen eventually get recovered.

[Soma]

(11-05-2013 05:11 AM)Prufrock Wrote:  

Holy shit! Is that a flying pig over Battersea power station? How didn't I notice that in the film before?

[Teutatis]

I'm surprised so many here don't care about art, I'd imagine most would have some kind of appreciation for it.

(11-04-2013 10:12 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

That's why they and other civilized Western Europeans are getting raped by the gypsies, Romanians, jihadist Muslims, etc.

While I agree with your post I must say the Romanians that are coming to western countries and committing all these crimes are not the ethnic Romanians but gypsies. Romanians themselves have had, and still have to this day, huge problems with this community.

[Therapsid]

(11-05-2013 09:12 AM)Teutatis Wrote:  

I'm surprised so many here don't care about art, I'd imagine most would have some kind of appreciation for it.

(11-04-2013 10:12 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

That's why they and other civilized Western Europeans are getting raped by the gypsies, Romanians, jihadist Muslims, etc.

While I agree with your post I must say the Romanians that are coming to western countries and committing all these crimes are not the ethnic Romanians but gypsies. Romanians themselves have had, and still have to this day, huge problems with this community.

There's a difference between appreciating art and making a fetish out of it.

Modern Western high art culture has made it a fetish every bit as much as tribal cultures the world over do.

Here's the question - do we appreciate a Picasso painting primarily because it's a beautiful or aesthetically pleasing or interesting work of art... or are we primarily interested in its provenance, whether or not its an original, and what its market value is.

If we're interested in the work primarily in terms of aesthetics, then we should make exact replicas - not cheap prints, but exact replicas - on a grand scale just as the Romans did with ancient Greek art. Instead, the art world keeps the market artificially constrained, in order to make money and to keep up the mystique of high art.

The writer Tom Wolfe dealt with this issue in his books on the art world.

Here is in an interview he did with William F. Buckley from back in the day where he talks about the "magic" nature ascribed to art:

Quote:

One of great examples of snobbery is the young couple who as a wedding present were given what they thought was a reproduction of a Picasso lithograph .. You know, this is number one of 720,000 published in Akron.

They put this underneath the staircase. A famous art dealer happened to come to dinner. He looked. He said, "My god: You've got one of the original five taken off the stone!" It then went over the fireplace in the living room...

I think if you had a copy of a book by Edmond Wilson and in a fit of pique were so furious with this book that you threw it into the fire, some people might say, "Bookburner, but most people would say, "For chrissake, he bought the book, and if he wants to destroy it he can. That's because it's a mass-produced item. I have often wondered-- In art, if some collector bought, let's say, a Frank Stella and then discovered that the pattern was exactly the same on the wallpaper in his mistress's house in East Hampton, and in a fit of pique he destroyed the painting, I think there would be a howl such as you wouldn't believe for this sort of destruction because it is so important to have the original. There's so much magic still existing in art to have the original by the artists.

[pavel_eskimoso]

(11-05-2013 02:53 AM)cardguy Wrote:  

I think all paintings are rubbish. To me a can of coke is as visually interesting as 'The Last Supper'.

So - I am not bothered about a few "masterpieces" being destroyed.

I had a similar line of thinking until I visited Italy and stepped inside the Sistine Chapel. The raw, supreme beauty of the art inside that building almost gave me a hard-on. Really helps you appreciate the importance of aesthetics and is also a good antidote to the modern art scene of today.

[R Smoov]

This is a when GTA goes wrong moment.

[Vicious]

(11-04-2013 10:12 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

It's blue pill thinking that "all cultures are the same" or that "if you bring uncivilized people into a civilized country, the uncivilized will become civilized."

Actually history does show that this has been the case in general.

However, in today's societies with telephones, satellite TV and the internet it is very easy to isolate yourself from any host culture.