Selfies at funerals
I guess all is well in the world then as long as they get 100+ likes.
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I agree with the sentiment that this is completely abominable behavior and that this generation is fucked up, but I think it's important for us to keep in mind that there is nothing unusual about these kids, and I mean that in the biological and cultural sense. They are simply normal human beings responding to their cultural environment. The humans aren't the problem. It's the culture and the technology that is producing these effects. The culture itself is poisoned, and the technology is actively enabling and accelerating societal degeneration.
There is a widespread belief that technology is inherently good, or that at worst it is neutral. I don't buy into this belief. I think that many technologies are inherently harmful to human beings, and that we are currently experiencing the incredible harm that social media technology is inflicting on our culture. It's not something that our brains really understand how to handle. It encourages and amplifies the worst aspects of human social interaction while giving the illusion of being connected to other people. It's like junk food socialization.
I feel really sorry for the kids currently growing up in this environment, thinking that this is normal. They really never had a chance. Our culture completely sold them out. They're growing up in a cultural cesspool. And supposedly, this is what we call "progress". It must be progress, you see, because the phones are faster and more powerful than ever. As long as the technology gets better, we take it for granted that society is getting better along with it. But anyone with half a brain can see that the opposite is actually occurring. Society has been disintegrating in front of our eyes over the past several decades especially.
Those kids think nothing of taking selfies at funerals because they're growing up in an environment where traditional values are literally a joke, something to be laughed at. The only things that our society values are money and fame. So it makes sense for them to attention whore all the time, even at a funeral. It gives them a little shot of dopamine that makes them feel famous for a few seconds. They've got to get themselves out there, got to get those likes and comments on their pics and status updates. If they don't, they feel like a failure, a non-entity. Attention must be had at all costs, including propriety and one's dignity.
This is part of a deep, cultural rot that has infected the heart of Western civilization. It's symptomatic of the complete erosion of the traditional morals and virtues which guided men for millennia. We simply have no concept of them anymore. The idea of "progress" has become our only guiding light. So we upend all traditional social institutions and cultural values (progressivism) and worship our own creations (rampant technological innovation). There is no concept of the past or of man's traditional place in the world. It's just full speed ahead. Right into a brick wall.
There is a widespread belief that technology is inherently good, or that at worst it is neutral. I don't buy into this belief. I think that many technologies are inherently harmful to human beings, and that we are currently experiencing the incredible harm that social media technology is inflicting on our culture. It's not something that our brains really understand how to handle. It encourages and amplifies the worst aspects of human social interaction while giving the illusion of being connected to other people. It's like junk food socialization.
I feel really sorry for the kids currently growing up in this environment, thinking that this is normal. They really never had a chance. Our culture completely sold them out. They're growing up in a cultural cesspool. And supposedly, this is what we call "progress". It must be progress, you see, because the phones are faster and more powerful than ever. As long as the technology gets better, we take it for granted that society is getting better along with it. But anyone with half a brain can see that the opposite is actually occurring. Society has been disintegrating in front of our eyes over the past several decades especially.
Those kids think nothing of taking selfies at funerals because they're growing up in an environment where traditional values are literally a joke, something to be laughed at. The only things that our society values are money and fame. So it makes sense for them to attention whore all the time, even at a funeral. It gives them a little shot of dopamine that makes them feel famous for a few seconds. They've got to get themselves out there, got to get those likes and comments on their pics and status updates. If they don't, they feel like a failure, a non-entity. Attention must be had at all costs, including propriety and one's dignity.
This is part of a deep, cultural rot that has infected the heart of Western civilization. It's symptomatic of the complete erosion of the traditional morals and virtues which guided men for millennia. We simply have no concept of them anymore. The idea of "progress" has become our only guiding light. So we upend all traditional social institutions and cultural values (progressivism) and worship our own creations (rampant technological innovation). There is no concept of the past or of man's traditional place in the world. It's just full speed ahead. Right into a brick wall.
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Quote: (10-29-2013 08:38 PM)scorpion Wrote:
And supposedly, this is what we call "progress". It must be progress, you see, because the phones are faster and more powerful than ever.
Yeah, and still all those dorks in Silicon Valley can't invent a phone that doesn't drop calls like Alexander Graham Bell did in the 1800's.
Or make a battery that lasts as long as a Duracell in a f*cking flashlight.
Quote: (10-29-2013 08:38 PM)scorpion Wrote:
I agree with the sentiment that this is completely abominable behavior and that this generation is fucked up, but I think it's important for us to keep in mind that there is nothing unusual about these kids, and I mean that in the biological and cultural sense. They are simply normal human beings responding to their cultural environment. The humans aren't the problem. It's the culture and the technology that is producing these effects.
I have to disagree with this.
Being young is about rebelling against what is normal/status quo.
I don't see kids rebelling against technology.
They embrace it like sheep.
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I am telling you guys. These kids were raised on soy milk.
Oh the humanity.... Do these punks have any decency? Goddammit.
This is now officially worse than having to listen to a woman making a speech about the deceased at a funeral. Yeah you guessed it right, it's all about how SHE feels, not about the dead one lying there.
Also, most of the chicks in those funeral selfies dressed like they're out slutting it up at a night club.
Also, most of the chicks in those funeral selfies dressed like they're out slutting it up at a night club.
Notice these kids are all wearing insincere expressions on their faces.
They're not genuinely smiling.
They're doing exaggerated cartoon faces, making duck lips, making themselves drip with sarcasm.
Almost all of the photos lack authenticity.
Go look at old yearbooks and candid snapshots of teenagers from a couple decades ago. They actually looked like real people. Actually, they looked oddly mature and adult-like. They weren't faking it 24 hours a day like these children.
They're not genuinely smiling.
They're doing exaggerated cartoon faces, making duck lips, making themselves drip with sarcasm.
Almost all of the photos lack authenticity.
Go look at old yearbooks and candid snapshots of teenagers from a couple decades ago. They actually looked like real people. Actually, they looked oddly mature and adult-like. They weren't faking it 24 hours a day like these children.
I don't see what the fuss is, some teenagers are taking pictures of themselves at funerals, I mean who gives a shit honestly this is not a taboo subject. The way you guys talk is like if some kids were taking pictures of themselves at your funeral you'd be upset and shaking your head at the downfall of society.
And I thought this one was very endearing and in good taste: http://31.media.tumblr.com/b42a11884bf87...o1_500.png
And I thought this one was very endearing and in good taste: http://31.media.tumblr.com/b42a11884bf87...o1_500.png
I generally don't comment on topics like these... but this one gave me pause.
i agree mostly with scorpion on this. If you think the selfies at funeral is bad, there are more...i did a quick search and it turns out:
Yes, there are selfies at the gas chamber at auschwitz concentration camp
There are selfies at 9/11 disaster spot.
There are selfies at chernobyl.
There are selfies at car crashes.
There are selfies at burning houses engulf in flames.
There are selfies at anne frank house.
There are selfies at vietnam dead war memorial... world war 2 memorial... There are selfies at battle of iwo jima memorial statue... holocaust memorial cemeteries.... etcetera.
This is true cultural decadence.
i agree mostly with scorpion on this. If you think the selfies at funeral is bad, there are more...i did a quick search and it turns out:
Yes, there are selfies at the gas chamber at auschwitz concentration camp
There are selfies at 9/11 disaster spot.
There are selfies at chernobyl.
There are selfies at car crashes.
There are selfies at burning houses engulf in flames.
There are selfies at anne frank house.
There are selfies at vietnam dead war memorial... world war 2 memorial... There are selfies at battle of iwo jima memorial statue... holocaust memorial cemeteries.... etcetera.
This is true cultural decadence.
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There is nothing "abominable" or even remotely objectionable about this. In fact, it's a perfectly civilized expression of simple and rather innocent human emotions.
Except for the death of an especially beloved relative or friend, most people do not feel any particular emotion at a funeral beyond discomfort and boredom, nor is there any reason why they should. What people do very often feel is guilt and confusion because of their failure to experience the sorrow and grief that they think are expected of them and that they (erroneously) expect of themselves.
This is especially true of kids, who have no natural relation to death whatsoever. Why would they?
If you look at the faces of these funeral selfie kids, they are honestly reflecting the discomfort, boredom and mild guilt and confusion that they experience on such an occasion. They are not attempting to manufacture any emotion that is not actually there. Someone noted that their expressions look insincere or not genuine, but this is a misreading of the tension between what these kids think they're supposed to feel at a funeral, and what they actually feel (like other normal people).
Something that is easy to misunderstand about these kids' usage of their supposedly soul-destroying devices is that it is entirely unselfconscious and indeed innocent. The phone might as well be an extension of their bodies and brains. It is a vulgarity to believe that by taking and posting these pictures they are laughing at "traditional values". They are doing nothing of the sort. They are merely communicating with each other in the way that they find most natural, conforming to their own (quite rigorous) conventions.
For the most part, I find these pictures unaffected and charming. There is very little visual cant here; very little attempt to bring manufactured emotions or ideologies to bear. These kids are just humbly and haplessly themselves.
Except for the death of an especially beloved relative or friend, most people do not feel any particular emotion at a funeral beyond discomfort and boredom, nor is there any reason why they should. What people do very often feel is guilt and confusion because of their failure to experience the sorrow and grief that they think are expected of them and that they (erroneously) expect of themselves.
This is especially true of kids, who have no natural relation to death whatsoever. Why would they?
If you look at the faces of these funeral selfie kids, they are honestly reflecting the discomfort, boredom and mild guilt and confusion that they experience on such an occasion. They are not attempting to manufacture any emotion that is not actually there. Someone noted that their expressions look insincere or not genuine, but this is a misreading of the tension between what these kids think they're supposed to feel at a funeral, and what they actually feel (like other normal people).
Something that is easy to misunderstand about these kids' usage of their supposedly soul-destroying devices is that it is entirely unselfconscious and indeed innocent. The phone might as well be an extension of their bodies and brains. It is a vulgarity to believe that by taking and posting these pictures they are laughing at "traditional values". They are doing nothing of the sort. They are merely communicating with each other in the way that they find most natural, conforming to their own (quite rigorous) conventions.
For the most part, I find these pictures unaffected and charming. There is very little visual cant here; very little attempt to bring manufactured emotions or ideologies to bear. These kids are just humbly and haplessly themselves.
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@scorpion it's the human traits that shape culture and technology. They still hold many tradtional values, attending the funeral is one. For me growing up it was always to much drama going to them. Only my pops went and nobody else for that reason, that is my own cultural upbringing but to differs from the majority.
The values are still thier but lack the weight of respect, attitude, and morals that make them mean anything. You have to have a ounce of outward projection, a tiny drop of empathy to make it all work though. This generation of youth has burned though it all.
We were all never this fuked when we were kids, a different breed of entitlement and narcism exsists with today's youth. The technology was shaped around them, not the other way around.
But they know on Sub-conscious level that the forest is starting to smolder. They know the bitch is burning down and are YOLO'n it all the way. But the thing is its the sub-level ideal that leads to the downfall and distruction. The hungry snake eating its own tale, it's a huge mind fuck when you sit and try and think about it deeply.
The values are still thier but lack the weight of respect, attitude, and morals that make them mean anything. You have to have a ounce of outward projection, a tiny drop of empathy to make it all work though. This generation of youth has burned though it all.
We were all never this fuked when we were kids, a different breed of entitlement and narcism exsists with today's youth. The technology was shaped around them, not the other way around.
But they know on Sub-conscious level that the forest is starting to smolder. They know the bitch is burning down and are YOLO'n it all the way. But the thing is its the sub-level ideal that leads to the downfall and distruction. The hungry snake eating its own tale, it's a huge mind fuck when you sit and try and think about it deeply.
Quote: (10-29-2013 10:58 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:
There is nothing "abominable" or even remotely objectionable about this. In fact, it's a perfectly civilized expression of simple and rather innocent human emotions.
Except for the death of an especially beloved relative or friend, most people do not feel any particular emotion at a funeral beyond discomfort and boredom, nor is there any reason why they should. What people do very often feel is guilt and confusion because of their failure to experience the sorrow and grief that they think are expected of them and that they (erroneously) expect of themselves.
This is especially true of kids, who have no natural relation to death whatsoever. Why would they?
I understand the conclusion you've come to, but I respectfully disagree. I experienced a lot of death through my childhood and teens, and we were all well aware of the seriousness of the situation, and that it required hushed respect and an awareness of others, so, that although we mightn't be hurting, others were.
This is simply young adults - I don't see 'children' here - who are either utterly clueless or uncaring of the expectations of respect and decency to guard the feelings of others around them. The experience of death isn't greater than their narcissism. Death offers them no room for reflection or introspection with their relatives and people who are in front of them in the moment, but is simply just another excuse to attention whore their status as the star of their own movie to their imagined audience (ooh, i have nice clothes, good hair).
You could argue it's some kind of denialist coping mechanism, but i'd venture for these YA's, if it's not filtered through social media, it doesn't exist. Including Grandma when she was alive.
Anyone who says this behaviour is normal is a fucking delusional cunt and probably of the same age as all the cunts taking these "selfies".
I would personally take this faggot outside and execute him with an AK-47 for the respect he failed to show his OWN DEAD FATHER.
Then I would post a photo of his bullet-riddled corpse and post it to all his "mates" on Facebook.
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I would personally take this faggot outside and execute him with an AK-47 for the respect he failed to show his OWN DEAD FATHER.
Then I would post a photo of his bullet-riddled corpse and post it to all his "mates" on Facebook.
These fuckheads make me angry. Your grandpa died and you make a duckface???
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Is it acceptable to photobomb your dead grandmother in her coffin?
Quote:Lizard of Oz Wrote:
Except for the death of an especially beloved relative or friend, most people do not feel any particular emotion at a funeral beyond discomfort and boredom, nor is there any reason why they should.
I often feel like Albert Camus's "Stranger" (L'Etranger) in this regard.
Yet this is no reason to do stupid shit or disrespect others.
If I wouldn't take selfies with duck faces and attention whore on Facebook while bored during an unemotional wait at the bus stop, then I wouldn't do it at a funeral either.
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Quote: (10-30-2013 03:09 AM)Vendetta Wrote:
Anyone who says this behaviour is normal is a fucking delusional cunt and probably of the same age as all the cunts taking these "selfies".
I would personally take this faggot outside and execute him with an AK-47 for the respect he failed to show his OWN DEAD FATHER.
Then I would post a photo of his bullet-riddled corpse and post it to all his "mates" on Facebook.
Don't blame the kids, blame their shitty parents who never taught them right from wrong.
You don't deserve any more respect than you earn, if you raised your kids full retard then you earned yourself a selfie-filled funeral.
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You guys are being way too lenient.
Anyone who says the word "selfies" or even ever takes a "selfie" should be beaten till an inch of death.
I could have a friend for 20 years and if he ever said "selfies" or ever took a "selfie", I would never speak with him again.
But then again, I hold my friends to pretty high standards.
Anyone who says the word "selfies" or even ever takes a "selfie" should be beaten till an inch of death.
I could have a friend for 20 years and if he ever said "selfies" or ever took a "selfie", I would never speak with him again.
But then again, I hold my friends to pretty high standards.
Attention whoring and lack of class know no boundaries. Yesterday on Facebook I saw that an old classmate had posted a selfie she took in the ER where her kid was being treated for dehydration. You could see the IV machine in the background.
Those people should have a first class ticket to Hell...or at least a brutal ass whooping
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Quote: (10-30-2013 06:23 AM)crippler Wrote:
Don't blame the kids, blame their shitty parents who never taught them right from wrong.
You don't deserve any more respect than you earn, if you raised your kids full retard then you earned yourself a selfie-filled funeral.
^^This, pretty much. If I had pulled something like that as a kid I'd be disowned.
Everyone like to blame the shitty influence of culture, media, education and yes, even technology, but parents are ultimately the last line of defense. And they're failing miserably.
One time on Okcupid I saw a girl who put up a pic of her at her grandma's funeral as one of her profile pics. That's already bad enough but the worst part is that the pic was her sitting right in front of her grandmother's open casket with the corpse in full view. I'm still kicking myself in the ass for saving the pic to show people who no doubt have a hard time believing this.
I wonder what these people would do if the internet went out for a month. Would it be like a fiend not having access to their drug?
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