[20Nation]

If anybody is curious about the bodies of these girls. I have been posting some pics (digital memories) on twitter of some of the girls I have been with (probably too many). So if you are curious check it out https://twitter.com/SwoopTheWorld

@renotime Yeah I'm using almost 100% badoo.

[20Nation]

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[TravelHardcore]

(10-24-2013 04:21 PM)renotime Wrote:  

What dating sites are ya'll primarily using? Badoo?

I'm only using Badoo right now and so far the options seem limitless.

Buy the super powers and some credits to boost your profile in dead moments. It doesn't cost a lot.

(10-24-2013 04:44 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

Also for THC, have you been using google translate to send messages in Spanish? I also have very weak and limited Spanish, but plan to work on that over the next couple months.

Yeah, but get the basics down first. Google translate messes up a lot so you will want to know what you are copy-pasting.

I do use google translate and a website for verb conjugations: http://www.linguasorb.com/learnspanish/verbs.aspx

The thing is, these girls reply in slang and make spelling mistakes so often google translate will not work here (like "aqui" can be "aki", "hacer" will be "acer", "vamos" = "bamos" etc.)

If you have a couple of mounths, that's enough time to learn enough Spanish.

But the more you know the better.

(10-24-2013 06:20 PM)Tenerife Wrote:  

THC must have 10 jugs of water in his hotel room....

Haha, yeah, I actually hide the extra water jugs before I go out now. But it's always good to have enough water here with the heat

[UrbanNerd]

(10-24-2013 06:06 PM)patron Wrote:  

Most high end girls will speak english and they wouldn't be caught dead in Zona Colonial. To find the quality girls, you need to go, where they go. Malls, university and high end bars, restaurants and clubs.

Same mindset in the Puerto Plata area. Some girls would rather die than be seen in Sosua (a P4P capital). All I wanted to do is grab a bottle of water in Sosua (which you must pass in order to get to Cabarete where I was staying) and my chick damn-near had heart attack.

I caved in and go tired of arguing, so I waited another 5 miles until I got to my condo.

[elabayarde]

(10-25-2013 01:52 AM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 06:06 PM)patron Wrote:  

Most high end girls will speak english and they wouldn't be caught dead in Zona Colonial. To find the quality girls, you need to go, where they go. Malls, university and high end bars, restaurants and clubs.

Same mindset in the Puerto Plata area. Some girls would rather die than be seen in Sosua (a P4P capital). All I wanted to do is grab a bottle of water in Sosua (which you must pass in order to get to Cabarete where I was staying) and my chick damn-near had heart attack.

I caved in and go tired of arguing, so I waited another 5 miles until I got to my condo.

You ever think that she has a history that there that she dont want you knowing about ?

[patron]

I have dated a lot of girls in Santiago that went to Pcumm (Money university) and they have a stuck up attitude about certain things. They won't ride Caribe tours bus, only metro. They won't drink brugal rum, only barcelo. They won't listen to bachata. Don't want to go to clubs that play bachata and a bunch of other stupid shit.

Renting an apartment on the malecon in Santo Domingo is fine. Anything south of the autopista (the main road that runs through the city) down to the Malecon (ocean) is Ok. Zona Colonial is not the worst place, but it is not the best place either. I just prefer to stay away from the tourist area.

[patron]

You ever think that she has a history that there that she dont want you knowing about ?

Dominicans know the game. They would never talk shit about another dominican in front of a gringo. Some girls will bring her Primo (aka her boyfriend) along on the dates. He doesn't care if you fuck his girlfriend, he is eating and drinking for free and hoping that you are a stupid gringo and will fall in love with his girlfriend and when you leave in a week, you will send her money western union every week and he will be living good

[UrbanNerd]

(10-25-2013 02:30 AM)elabayarde Wrote:  

(10-25-2013 01:52 AM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 06:06 PM)patron Wrote:  

Most high end girls will speak english and they wouldn't be caught dead in Zona Colonial. To find the quality girls, you need to go, where they go. Malls, university and high end bars, restaurants and clubs.

Same mindset in the Puerto Plata area. Some girls would rather die than be seen in Sosua (a P4P capital). All I wanted to do is grab a bottle of water in Sosua (which you must pass in order to get to Cabarete where I was staying) and my chick damn-near had heart attack.

I caved in and go tired of arguing, so I waited another 5 miles until I got to my condo.

You ever think that she has a history that there that she dont want you knowing about ?

She "claims" (again, I say claims) that her Dad (who does not live with her) works somewhere in Sosua and told her he better not see her there.

Then again, who knows with these DR chicas....lol

[Tenerife]

@20N I'm definitely getting your online game book as soon as it drops! I have a few questions for you.

What is the structure of your initial message template like? I'm assuming you're copying and pasting a very similar paragraph to hundreds of girls.

How do you take it from the initial message to whatsapp? And, are you just using whatsapp on your phone or computer? (I'm behind on the whole app thing).

I've read your stuff on body language in skype, but I'm more curious about how you get it to that point. My whole online game has been to just get the girls number, then meet, but this obviously causes lots of dates with good girls, flakes, etc.

[patron]

I don't think there is any secret to online game in the DR. You have to remember, these are barrio with nothing going on with their life. Why not meet a gringo for a drink and possibly a free meal.

Here is my game:
Hi, how are you?
Where do you live?
In what part of Santiago/Santo Domingo? (this way i know how barrio they are)
Do you have kids/husband? (if yes, adios)
Do you work or go to school? ( all girls here go to college )
What time do you have class?
lets meet before you go to class, near the university

No paying for a taxi, because they are school aways. This way you can meet her, have a drink and see if she is worth spending more time with. Most colleges have cheap places to eat/drink around it.

If you are meeting during the day, girls will take public transportation. Only at night, do I pay a taxi.

[Tenerife]

I'm sure I could land in DR and get 2 or 3 girls a week from online, but I'm definitely curious about 20N's techniques, because I'd like to get the best results possible.

I've spent a lot of time in Phils doing online, but the biggest problem is the volume of girls, and wasting time with the wrong girls.

[elhúngaro]

Do you guys frequent the clubs listed on this website? Based on the pictures the quality of chicas is quite high.

http://7dias7noches.net/photo/gallery/dr...mqdaPk9KaU

[Road_Less_Taken]

How do DR guys compare, do they have game

[patron]

Yes, Dominican guys have game. They dress well, are in shape and have no problem hitting on every girl that walks by. But, they are cool. Its all about drinking and fucking and they won't hate on you. Girls know that dominican guys are tigres (players) and always have more than 1 girl.

I like going after the high end girls. Doctors, lawyers etc. They refuse to date guys below their level, meaning the guy doesn't have a great job, so this eliminates about 75% of the guys, the other guys that have a good job are married 20% , so this leaves about 5% that you have to compete with. These guys are players, have money, nice cars etc and can pick and chose girls, so they aren't looking to settle down.

Barrio guys have no money. Easy to compete with them.

[Cattle Rustler]

Yesterday in the RVF Chatroom we were talking about DR chicks....

So the Rustler gets no Badoo and was browsing through, those are some hot ass pokemon! Heels, skinny WITH ass and some have huge titties. I spam messaged 30, got 8 replies, they're nice and warm. Add that to the fact that RVFers claim DR is cheap, I know where I'm vacationing.

How do you guys add DR numbers on WhatsApp? I tried +829(rest of the number) but it doesn't show up. Are DR girls normally aggresive? Two of them started asking me questions. Topsy turvy.

[TravelHardcore]

(10-25-2013 12:37 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

How do you guys add DR numbers on WhatsApp? I tried +829(rest of the number) but it doesn't show up.

If your what's app is not registered with a DR number you have to add +1 before the 829

So +1 (829)-her-number

[el mechanico]

(10-25-2013 02:19 PM)TravelHardcore Wrote:  

(10-25-2013 12:37 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

How do you guys add DR numbers on WhatsApp? I tried +829(rest of the number) but it doesn't show up.

If your what's app is not registered with a DR number you have to add +1 before the 829

So +1 (829)-her-number

Be very carful what you wish for. These girls never stop calling and texting and by the time you get there you'll be confused because they all lie about where they are.

[20Nation]

(10-25-2013 11:16 AM)Tenerife Wrote:  

I'm sure I could land in DR and get 2 or 3 girls a week from online, but I'm definitely curious about 20N's techniques, because I'd like to get the best results possible.

I've spent a lot of time in Phils doing online, but the biggest problem is the volume of girls, and wasting time with the wrong girls.

Well there's a lot to it but I will show you what has been working so far.
You can get the normal girls just by doing small talk, but if you want to pull contact information from the top girls online (the girls getting hundreds of messages a day). You need to throw in hooks, jokes, transitions and dhvs into your routine. You are using these just to transition skype o whatsapp (facebook is dangerous because they can see you are a player, works with some girls, others no).

The Hook
A hook is just basically fishing for what they are really looking for. Some girls are looking for a rich guy (just the way it is), maybe a guy who will take them on adventures, others a sexy guy, others a boyfriend who will just take them to the movies and talk to them. There are all these type of women in the DR. To hook them you just have to throw out bait about what they want.

The best way to do this is with photos. Photos of you in a nice house, driving a nice car, or wearing an expensive suit will show you have money (check for those types of girls). You can post some travel pictures for girls that dream about going to new places, most dr girls have never left their country (check). Next you need to make sure that you have a sexy photo in there. Maybe a photo in the right lighting to make you look ripped. Also make sure all these photos have you looking your best. Girls care about looks, it's all a part of the equation. Finally you want normal photos for normal girls. Maybe some photos of you doing dangerous or interesting things for some more dhvs. To be able to pick up all these types of women you need all these elements in your profile. If you don't have the pictures to do this you can also mention things while you are talking to them (bait). "yeah my last girlfriend loved Europe, we had such a blast there." There are many types of bait. Some girls just want to know that you are ACTUALLY in the country. Don't be afraid to throw in a scripted joke (i do) and other DHV's and hooks. (ok going to slow down now because there is too much information and this is getting long.

Rapport and transition
Next you need to build some rapport so she will feel comfortable giving out her information. Make her see that you are a normal guy and aren't going to blow up her whatsapp with dick pics (like many guys). After that you want a natural transition to asking for their whatsapp or skype. "Hey I have to go. Do you have whatsapp or skype?

Skype and whatsapp
Now skype game I have covered before, you just game them like you would game them in real life. Since you are camming with them you go from being a photo to a real person and it's a game changer. However, I have been getting really good at whatsapp game. The key in whatsapp game is having 3 or 4 pictures that you look really good and interesting in. So as you continue talking with them they will continue checking the whatsapp photos you sent, and they will see the best you. From then you do some small talk and use Voice Messages. These are a must as they help you become a real person and you can make jokes and tease and show off your accent.
From then it's all about making a connection. If you want to make sure a girl is solid start gaming her and get her to send you a nude photo. The harder it is to get her to do it, the more of an investment in you she makes by sending it. 7/10 of the girls i have been with I have got naked (one on cam), but the rest through whatsapp. These girls are solid, one flaked but said she was robbed. (maybe true, maybe not but when i finally met her i got the notch easily.) Making a connection and getting her to invest is key if you don't want to deal with flakes.

Dates:
I like to schedule 3-5 dates a day. You ALWAYS make them come to where you are. Never meet in the middle (harder to get her back to your place) and never any where but the location you say. If she isn't down for this then you haven't made enough of a connection and you will have to make up for it on the date anyway. It's better to have them come to you, it's almost a test to see how well you gamed them and if they will be down for whatever you suggest to do (back to my room to watch a movie hasn't failed me yet here, although I have used groceries and I want to watch a football game cause my friend is the quarterback as excuses as well). I schedule dates in 3 times slots based on my sleep schedule. 1pm 6pm and 930. The higher quality girls get the 1 and 6 time slots where the lower quality girls get to choose to come see me late at night if they want to meet me. If i didnt make a solid connection (webcam, or nude photo investment) it means it's just a random contact and I will double book that time slot because the flake rate is much higher.



I wanted this to be shorter but it's hard because I have to ignore a lot of things. I have a very nice pipeline here and it's because I have followed this. I haven't even used all my skype contacts yet (30 or so) (my strength) I will use that when my list of dates starts to get low.

[TravelHardcore]

Pretty interesting day yesterday. I've been suffering some insomnia again, so I fall asleep at 7 in the morning. I think a few days of sleep deficit messed up my game a little bit, I could tell my Spanish was shittier then usual.

I had planned two dates, one at 2pm the other one at 6pm.

Date 1
Surprisingly the first girl was on time, which does not happen a lot here. They are usually up to an hour late. So I get her text and I go outside... she brought a friend without telling me.

If they at least ask before the date if it's okay, I clearly tell them "No.", but this one just brought one. That already pissed me off.

If my Spanish was better or if I was more rested I might have ran with it, but I wasn't feeling it to invest the effort for a guaranteed non-SNL.

So I told her: "This not okay. You should have told me you would bring a friend. I'm going back home."

I don't care if I burnt the bridge on that one. But it did bother me I lost a dating time slot on that girl.

Siesta
With no backup dates, I decided to take a siesta. After that I went for a walk around the area to explore. As I'm explorenating, a cute young black girl gives me a decent stare as she passes me. I look around to check out her ass and she was doing the same thing to me so I wave her over.

We have a short conversation (where you from, where you live) and I get her number. I couldn't stay long because my 2nd date was coming up.


Date 2
Wow, I really fucked up this date. Too bad because she was actually a cool & funny girl. She had light skin, but still a round ass like a black girl. I take her too the park, we talk and laugh a bit. I go buy some water (always works ) and take her to my place. Maybe still annoyed by the failed Date before, and also a bit annoyed by the routine, I try to take some short cuts.

This was not the right girl to do so.

I knew she was into me, but I forgot all the right things to do and I acted too agressively.

"I can't stay very long, I have to see a friend soon": bad sign, she's giving excuses to leave at any moment.

I pull her in and try to kiss her, but she did not have enough comfort at all.

"Okay, I have to go NOW"

She takes her stuff, kisses me goodbye and is out the door in 30 seconds.

"Damn." there's no recovery from that, too bad... fucked that up, this was all on me.

So now it's 7pm, I have 2 dates and 0 results, I can't let this day go to waste like that, so I text the black girl I met earlier that day.


Date 3: daygame SNL

"Que estas haciendo"
-Nada.
"Quieres hacer algo?"
-Como q?
"Tomamos algo en calle de conde"
-OK.

Boom, she shows up at 9pm and wow... she's looking HOT. She's wearing a one piece short dress, she's skinny and without high heels she's almost as tall as me. Lessons learned from my fuck up earlier: I'm back on my game and I take things easy.

We actually go for a drink & I take my time, no more fuck ups. I find out she just arrived in SD from a small village where there's absolutely NOTHING. She's 19 but she has never even been to a cinema (favela points), I'll take her to see a movie soon. After the beers we go back to my place, watch some TV and some pictures of my travels in Asia and we start making out.

She gets really into it but is a little bit shy. I don't know why, her body is amazing. She is skinny, but has some grip in the right places, a little booty and a pair of gravity defying boobs: amazing.

Best sex in DR so far and first day game close.

[el mechanico]

THC, once you're out and about more you wont want to bother with online girls down there. Move to a better area like Gazque and it'll get even easier. Ali knows a good place there in the same price range.. I like the place behind the Jaragua because of the 24hr restaurant next to it with room service and the proximity to the casino where I told my dates to meet me usually.

[Merenguero]

(10-25-2013 04:15 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

THC, once you're out and about more you wont want to bother with online girls down there. Move to a better area like Gazque and it'll get even easier. Ali knows a good place there in the same price range.. I like the place behind the Jaragua because of the 24hr restaurant next to it with room service and the proximity to the casino where I told my dates to meet me usually.

What's behind the Jaragua? A hotel? An apartment complex? The last time I went to the Dominican Republic, I stayed in one of the garden rooms at the Jaragua, which is located in a separate building behind the main Jaragua building. They wouldn't let me bring girls in there, so I don't think I would stay there again. Other than that, it was a pretty good place to stay.

[el mechanico]

(10-25-2013 04:28 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(10-25-2013 04:15 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

THC, once you're out and about more you wont want to bother with online girls down there. Move to a better area like Gazque and it'll get even easier. Ali knows a good place there in the same price range.. I like the place behind the Jaragua because of the 24hr restaurant next to it with room service and the proximity to the casino where I told my dates to meet me usually.

What's behind the Jaragua? A hotel? An apartment complex? The last time I went to the Dominican Republic, I stayed in one of the garden rooms at the Jaragua, which is located in a separate building behind the main Jaragua building. They wouldn't let me bring girls in there, so I don't think I would stay there again. Other than that, it was a pretty good place to stay.

Hotel Riazor and Manolos restaurant.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-...ublic.html

[Tenerife]

(10-25-2013 03:13 PM)20Nation Wrote:  

I wanted this to be shorter but it's hard because I have to ignore a lot of things.

It's not too long. Great post. Just repped you. Looking forward to the book as well.

I've already got some solid pics on my profiles. I may add one of me with my shirt off (I have a decent physique), and some pics of me in europe.

[Aliblahba]

Behind the casino is Hostel Rizor. $60 night for a balcony room. You can wipe out the room bar and go up to the grocery store on the left to restock for 60% less. That's where they get their mini wine bottles.

My biggest regret was reverting to ZC. The pussy dried up and my regulars didn't want to show up. They look like hookers down there. Perception is reality. Worse case though if you need a drink after hours pay the bartenders at Paco's and they'll put it in a styrofoam cup.

I ran El Conde like a champ, just out of boredom. Studied every person because its like ground day there. Clockwork. Rockstar gets you laid in Hard Rock, lesser in the Italian restaurant, and of course hookers in Paco's.

Go to the foreigner's club hotel and ask the guy where the super burger joint is or the plata del dia cuban place is. The best places to eat are those that are 2 streets back. Still, get the FUCK outta ZC.

Eat what the locals eat. Drink where they drink, but if you're American go down and talk to Candy at the Italian restaurant and get the filet con tostones. It's halfway down from the Jumbo.

Don't run through the place with a bottle in your hand. That's ghetto shit. Impress me when you pull in Naco. Game recognized.

[scotian]

THC glad to hear that the Spanish is improving, good thing about the DR is that there's plenty of Haitian girls running around that you can game en francais, as you`ve already done, keep sending me those pics on whatsapp bro.

20nation, whats the ETA on that online game book? I gotta get that one for sure.