[WestCoast]

@houston try buying hair thinning scissors. I had the same issue then just started thinning my own hair when it got "clumpy" looks 100x better now

[Ensam]

If you have hair what you do with it matters a lot. When I'm better groomed I get more attention from women.

Recently I went from a no-part cut like:


to a left part cut like:


Girls noticed - in a good way.

[Fred970]

Somewhat heartbreaking thread for me. I started balding at 17 and was pretty much bald by the age of 23. I just had a hair transplant 3 months ago and I'm starting to get my hair back, I've never known adult life looking "normal" for my age hair-wise so I think it's going to be a big change for me.

I'm amazed by the fact that a lot of men on this forum don't even have the slightest idea of what it's like to be going bald at a young age. At least I see honest comments like: "A good head of hair is crucial etc." But in this thread, balding is rarely mentioned.

I think at the exception of PUA's like Krauser, most guys if they start losing their hair at a young age just give up on self-improvement altogether. That's what I did at first anyway. I stopped daygaming once I was bald, I mean, a bald 23 year old guy hitting on random women on the street? I didn't like the idea. I wonder how many people on this forum are balding or even bald in their 20's.

For the guys with a full head of hair, I'd like to ask one question and I would like an honest answer. On this forum, there's a lot of talk about daygame, pulling girls in clubs and all that. Do you think you'd still have the guts to walk up to a hot girl with a bald head? And I mean a truly shiny bald head, not shaved. Do you think there would still be a point doing daygame or going to nightclubs without the precious head of hair you're talking about in this topic?

[oldblueeyes]

I started losing my hair when I was 19 but it didn't become noticeable until I was in my late 20s.
Ironically, my sex life heated up as I got balder. Go figure.
Looking a bit like Jason Statham doesn't hurt.

[MrPositive]

In America and Britain it's huge as anything that can disqualify you WILL be used. Most of Europe and Latin America though, I think bald can work wonders. If in America, shave that shit and go complete bald. Women love that look.

[HonantheBarbarian]

If I started to go bald early on, then I'd rock the clean shaven head.

If you have the right shape head it could end up looking better and even more edgy than your actual hair did.

[RouteBackwards]

(10-10-2013 08:39 PM)MaleDefined Wrote:  

Hair is key. However, I'm not sure it necessarily has to do with having a full head of hair.

It's key that your face, body and clothing fit with your hairstyle. I'm convinced that most men, regardless of how much they're thinning up top can find a haircut and vibe that match their haircut.

To me, a hairstyle is as important as clothing or body type. In the right way, a man's hairstyle can turn a woman on in the same way all of love a woman with a long, thick head of hair.

It's worth your time to try out different looks along with a different haircut. A good haircut and style can add 2-3 points on your looks scale in the eyes of women.

In my experience, women find men with longer hair more approachable, and to some level this makes them have an edge in attractiveness since these women feel more comfortable in these mens presence, but still attracted.

Short hair/bald women still find attractive, but they become far more intimidated of these men. This is the look I've had forever, and because of my larger body type, I seem to have only outwardly attracted women who enjoy the bad boy types (outwardly as in women who approached me first).

I've started growing my hair for the past month however, and this was purely out of laziness, I noticed far more looks from women. My hair is still fairly short, but something about the longer hair has made my face look almost older, but in a good way. I started reading up, and it now seems like I'm going to invest in some good pomade for when I can party my hair and such.

[The Wire]

(08-08-2014 05:12 PM)AfgScarface Wrote:  

If you have the right shape head it could end up looking better and even more edgy than your actual hair did.

Unless your skull has a perfect shape you will always look better with hair and the problem is vast majority of men do not have a perfectly shaped skull. Thats why the right hair cut is so important because it allows a guy to even a lot of the playing against a guy with perfect facial/skull features.

Anyone ever see how awful Ryan Gosling looked with a buzz cut?




Add a good haircut, a little aftershadow and tan....a different ballgame(yes I know hes older here but same principle applies). You notice in this pic Gosling is able to cover up that occipital bone(back of the head) that protrudes out really far in the skinhead pic. This is exactly what a haircut can do for a guy. A perfect haircut is basically the equivalent of a custom fitted suite. If you shave your head it's like walking around naked. Some guys have perfect bodies so they would look good naked. Most guys will be at some disadvantage since they don't have perfect bodies.

[HonantheBarbarian]

While I agree with everything you said, what about when a dude is prematurely losing his hair and looks middle-aged in his early twenties? At that point the bald look becomes a much more sensible option. I personally have hair down to my shoulders and love it that way, but if I were to be faced with severe, imminent hair loss then my options would obviously begin to shrink.

One immediate observation that comes to mind is Bryan Cranston in Breaking Bad. Although most would agree that he was definitely more "handsome" with his full head of hair in the beginning of the series, I would argue that he definitely looks more menacing and "alpha" with the bald look later on.

But you are right, its a tightrope for these guys. Look at the incongruency of Neil Strauss and his bald cut.

[HonantheBarbarian]

While I agree with everything you said, what about when a dude is prematurely losing his hair and looks middle-aged in his early twenties? At that point the bald look becomes a much more sensible option. I personally have hair down to my shoulders and love it that way, but if I were to be faced with severe, imminent hair loss then my options would obviously begin to shrink.

One immediate observation that comes to kind is Bryan Cranston in Breaking Bad. Although most would agree that he was definitely more "handsome" with his full head of hair in the beginning of the series, I would argue that he definitely looks more menacing and "alpha" with the bald look later on.

But you are right, its a tightrope for these guys. Look at the incongruency of Neil Strauss and his bald cut.

[The Wire]

(08-08-2014 10:17 PM)AfgScarface Wrote:  

While I agree with everything you said, what about when a dude is prematurely losing his hair and looks middle-aged in his early twenties? At that point the bald look becomes a much more sensible option. I personally have hair down to my shoulders and love it that way, but if I were to be faced with severe, imminent hair loss then my options would obviously begin to shrink.

One immediate observation that comes to mind is Bryan Cranston in Breaking Bad. Although most would agree that he was definitely more "handsome" with his full head of hair in the beginning of the series, I would argue that he definitely looks more menacing and "alpha" with the bald look later on.

But you are right, its a tightrope for these guys. Look at the incongruency of Neil Strauss and his bald cut.

Absolutely. You need be congruent with the deck of cards given to you. If you're balding then like Bryan Cranston you need to own that look. That's why facial hair is extremely important when shaving your head. If you can't look like Gosling then own another look. Hit the gym, put some muscle on and rock a beard or goatee and look the part.

[Deluge]

I rock an old school undercut, back and sides shaved to a 1 with the top slicked straight back.

The reception has been universally positive for me, so much so that I think it's pushed me over the line from average to good looking in girl's eyes. Either way the attention I've been getting has gone consistently up since I got it earlier this year. The magic is that it's mature and classic but also quite edgy at the same time. Even though shaved back and sides are ubiquitous right now I highly recommend this style. Maintenance = getting it trimmed every 2-3 weeks and simply waxing it straight back with a comb.

[Phoenix]

Might point out two things I've noticed, for the prematurely balding guys in this thread.

1) I have lost count of how many times I have seen a completely bald guy with a hot girl. Like really hot too. In each case though the guy came accross as a 'dominant' guy, even in the instances where they weren't that tall.

2) I have also lost count of how many times, when asked which actors they found attractive, girls have refered to Gosling as 'ick, does nothing for me', and then specifically mentioned Jason Statham. One girl said 'Mmm, eye candy' . Statham is a pretty damn ugly dude. But he is definately very dominant.

So probably the best thing would be to make it part of a dominant persona. Getting ripped, riding a motorbike, getting into fights and running afoul of the law etc .

[Rush87]

(08-07-2014 09:14 PM)Fred970 Wrote:  

Somewhat heartbreaking thread for me. I started balding at 17 and was pretty much bald by the age of 23. I just had a hair transplant 3 months ago and I'm starting to get my hair back, I've never known adult life looking "normal" for my age hair-wise so I think it's going to be a big change for me.

I'm amazed by the fact that a lot of men on this forum don't even have the slightest idea of what it's like to be going bald at a young age. At least I see honest comments like: "A good head of hair is crucial etc." But in this thread, balding is rarely mentioned.

I think at the exception of PUA's like Krauser, most guys if they start losing their hair at a young age just give up on self-improvement altogether. That's what I did at first anyway. I stopped daygaming once I was bald, I mean, a bald 23 year old guy hitting on random women on the street? I didn't like the idea. I wonder how many people on this forum are balding or even bald in their 20's.

For the guys with a full head of hair, I'd like to ask one question and I would like an honest answer. On this forum, there's a lot of talk about daygame, pulling girls in clubs and all that. Do you think you'd still have the guts to walk up to a hot girl with a bald head? And I mean a truly shiny bald head, not shaved. Do you think there would still be a point doing daygame or going to nightclubs without the precious head of hair you're talking about in this topic?

Hey man, to be honest I think a lot of the posts here are a little off the mark. For many dudes their confidence is deeply rooted in a particular attribute they possess I.E: Muscles, height, hair. In this regard many feel that they would do 'terribly' without it.

The fact is though what these attributes really provide is confidence. When a guy gains muscle or gets a fresh hair style his confidence is causing the shift in female perception - Not the hair style.

As an example my brother went bald in his early 20's & he went through a rough period. I fortunately have a full head of hair. In my early 20's I decided to razor shave to help him feel a bit more comfortable about going out.

For me personally; girls would ask 'Are you shaving because you're going bald?' etc but in terms of pulling, it didn't make an ounce of difference.

Hair or no hair the results were more or less identical. I think however when a guy loses his hair & starts having less success with women, the primary reason he's not doing so well is the hit to his self esteem.

100% it's nothing like a woman packing on 20lb - It's more like a limitation of your hair style choices. Get a tan, stay in shape, have great style & perhaps do what my brother did [I think it's called an FUE Transplant] & frame the face. He's doing better than me with women & I'm currently sporting thick, long winter locks.

[The Wire]

(08-10-2014 01:45 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

2) I have also lost count of how many times, when asked which actors they found attractive, girls have refered to Gosling as 'ick, does nothing for me', and then specifically mentioned Jason Statham. One girl said 'Mmm, eye candy' . Statham is a pretty damn ugly dude. But he is definately very dominant.

I've heard a woman say Brad Pitt was 'ick as well. Doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. The average guy in his 20's being able to pull off a Gosling look will be in a much better spot than not. Most guys wouldn't come close too pulling off a Statham look because of facial/skull structure.

And you're crazy if you think Jason Statham is ugly. He's literally the perfect example of what every white balding guy could possible hope to look like. The guy has pretty amazing genetics going for him. It doesn't matter that he's balding bad....his skull is pretty much a prefect shape.

On a personal note I would be fucked if I ever went bald because I have a oddly shaped skull.

[Deluge]

(08-10-2014 06:32 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

When a guy gains muscle or gets a fresh hair style his confidence is causing the shift in female perception - Not the hair style.

This is completely false. Acting like the aesthetics have no effect and it's only the confidence you get from it that makes you more attractive is what scam artist PUA's tell schmucks to sell them bootcamps. Looks do matter in of itself. I have always been extremely confident, since I already have that the increased attention I get from putting on muscle and getting a cool haircut comes purely from the aesthetics. The increased confidence thing only applies to guys who aren't confident enough already, and even then being better looking itself is also driving their increased attractiveness.

[Phoenix]

(08-10-2014 11:42 AM)The Wire Wrote:  

I've heard a woman say Brad Pitt was 'ick as well. Doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. The average guy in his 20's being able to pull off a Gosling look will be in a much better spot than not. Most guys wouldn't come close too pulling off a Statham look because of facial/skull structure.

And you're crazy if you think Jason Statham is ugly.

I've heard many women say Brad Pitt is ick. I've also heard women specifically mention Statham, Vin Diesel, and sometimes Bruce Willis, in that order, as 'sexy', with the guys from 'Geordy Shore' offered as the 'ick' counter examples. None of them specifically said 'I like them because they're bald / balding'. I just noticed a trend. Some women are into that rough look, they don't subscribe to the 'this is the optimum man' concept. They just like that. Same way as many chicks in Japan are into the ultra-weak, feminine and skinny host-boys. Why? So what why, they do.

OK I'm crazy, if you scroll so the top of his head is hidden. Statham is clearly a chisled pretty boy


Given that the other dudes in this thread are balding, it is largely irrelevant what is 'optimum', since they have little choice. The hair is going.
I am accurately pointing out to them that it is not a 'game over' situation, but a situation that does suggest other personal changes to make their look 'dominant' instead of say 'old' or 'weak'.

[Rush87]

(08-10-2014 12:05 PM)Deluge Wrote:  

(08-10-2014 06:32 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

When a guy gains muscle or gets a fresh hair style his confidence is causing the shift in female perception - Not the hair style.

This is completely false. Acting like the aesthetics have no effect and it's only the confidence you get from it that makes you more attractive is what scam artist PUA's tell schmucks to sell them bootcamps. Looks do matter in of itself. I have always been extremely confident, since I already have that the increased attention I get from putting on muscle and getting a cool haircut comes purely from the aesthetics. The increased confidence thing only applies to guys who aren't confident enough already, and even then being better looking itself is also driving their increased attractiveness.

Of course aesthetics have an effect on picking up but if you don't have them with hair loss; you didn't have them before hair loss either. What I specifically quoted however was 'the misconception' that a simple haircut or a few pounds of muscle will cause a seismic shift in female perception.

This thread in particular is referring to hair loss; and for the poster I was addressing, my point still stands - Optimise you're physique i.e: Get athletic, get a tan, have good style & the girls you could get with hair will be just as achievable without it.

[MikeCF]

Hair is overrated. I've shaved my head and done fine. I have a luxurious head of hair and did fine.

Thing with hair....You can't be fat and bald.

Look at pics of Dana White. I use him as an example because he has an egg head and his weight fluctuates.

When he's fat, he looks shitty. When he's in shape, he looks OK.

One guy on a message board I read put it best:

Young and in shape with hair: did well.
Young and in shape with less hair: did well.
Older and in shape with missing hair: did well.
Older and slightly out of shape with no hair: did badly.
Older and out of shape with no hair: fucking awful.
Older and in shape with no hair: doing well.

[Cyr]

(08-09-2014 12:42 PM)Deluge Wrote:  

I rock an old school undercut, back and sides shaved to a 1 with the top slicked straight back.

The reception has been universally positive for me, so much so that I think it's pushed me over the line from average to good looking in girl's eyes. Either way the attention I've been getting has gone consistently up since I got it earlier this year. The magic is that it's mature and classic but also quite edgy at the same time. Even though shaved back and sides are ubiquitous right now I highly recommend this style. Maintenance = getting it trimmed every 2-3 weeks and simply waxing it straight back with a comb.



(Not really slicked back, just to one side).

If youre reading this thinking that you dont have the right type of hair to pull that off (too thick/ curly), this is another option, which is my current haircut.

   

[Deluge]

^My hair is curly and very thick, it becomes an afro when grown long. My style of undercut works great as long as the top is maintained often enough. It takes maybe 3 weeks of growth for it to get too unwieldy for me, but by that stage the back and sides have grown too long so I'd have to get it re-trimmed anyway even if I had normal hair. When I get it maintained I just take some length off the top and make sure they use thinning scissors.

[Fred970]

My hair looked like this just before my hair transplant 3 months ago:



I'm 24 years old. Was I right not to even bother approaching girls anymore?

Guys my age are supposed to have cool hairstyles like ones posted above. Not to have a grandpa shiny head.

I just didn't the point. People mention Jason Statham all the time, but reality is way different for common young bald men.

[Scuba_Instructor]

Personally I think the most important factors re. making the most of hair loss are:

1) Congruent style

2) Athleticism

2) Owning the look

Guys who are balding / bald can easily own the look by growing some well-shaped facial hair and dressing well. A well-honed physique adds to this as it becomes an additional asset to the overall look.

Open necked-shirts and V-necks work well as the amount of skin on show takes away from the otherwise abrupt, potentially harsh look of a bald head.

The way I see it ... a heavily balding man has to shave his head to own the look. Anything else looks like you're the victim of the circumstance.

Hair transplants are all good as long as they look natural (which it seems they now do). Some people obviously look better with hair, just as some people look better without it.

I'd argue you have to have a particular look - be it pretty surfer-boy, tight-jeaned, bearded hipster or dominant edgy bad boy. The look by itself will attract different type of girls - your character and behaviour is what will make you universally appealing.

My two pennies.

[TigerMandingo]

Deluge is a hipster?

[Candlejack]

The London Daygame crew had a podcast about a wonderdrug that regrows hair. Anyone heard of it?