[bike0369]

Hi there Rooshies,

My first post as I have tried to read through the forum but couldn't find answer to my predicament.

I (35, a 5, with a good corporate job) recently moved to Singapore from Europe, and have had some success with Asian (Singaporean/Chinese/Taiwanese/Mongolian) chicks. But my success rate with European chicks is zero - and it was very low back in Europe too. So I wonder if there is something I am systematically doing wrong?

An example: I met this girl (30 yo British, nurse, an 8, an inch taller than me) who recently moved from the UK a few weeks ago in a social gathering. We exchanged numbers, and a few days later, I texted her to set up a date. She kept on refusing on pretext of being busy / new to work / new country etc, but eventually relented when I proposed a dinner at my place. She also happily brought a bottle of red.

I cooked for us past Sat, and we had a 'nice' time, but nothing physical. Forget bang, there was no kissing either. Here is a run down:

1. Comes slightly late, apologizing profusely. Dressed very sexy - short skirt
2. I show her my place; while walking around, my house-mate comes out and I introduce the two. Light interaction and he excuses himself
3. We have the three course candle-lit dinner in my balcony- which is accessed through my bed room, and finish 1.5 bottles of red wine. Things were flowing smoothly, although there was not much physical except a pat here or there. She didn't return my advances, but I kept on doing nevertheless- partially encouraged by the advice on this forum. We mainly talked about Singapore, social stuff here, travels around South East Asia along with a bit about our past and current weekend etc
4. I put on some nice Salsa music and try to pull her to dance, and she stubbornly refused. After this, I felt a distinct change in the mood. She started to talk about going home, asking for taxi etc. We then moved into the bed room to have some ice cream, but she just kept on looking at her watch. I knew the date was over then. I, probably wrongly, tried to extend by 10 odd minutes, but then just gave in.

Overall, what do you think I did wrong, and how to recover/retrieve?

BTW, haven't got any text from her yet (Sun afternoon now), so should I text / how long should I wait?


Thanks a lot!
Biker

Edit: Just got the text, in essence saying 'delicious food and great company'. I didn't text her, and haven't replied yet

[eradicator]

Nurses are all greedy whores this chick is definitely bangable.

As for "what should you do differently", I would definitely say that you aren't escalating enough. As for why she didn't want to dance, maybe she really doesn't like to dance or just wasn't comfortable with you yet. It sounds like she might just be a conservative girl(but I doubt it, because she is a nurse and most nurses are greedy whores, and I say that with all of the love in the world)

there have been a lot of good threads on here about escalation.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-24038.html

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-24042-...#pid450235

here are a couple of good ones.

[WestIndianArchie]

Doesn't sound like you used much game at all.

You had a chick over for dinner.
Plied her with liquor and moved her to your bedroom for ice cream.

Sounds like a ton of romance, the kind of stuff you would use before learning anything about Game.

What did you actually talk about?
What did you say to her?
What did she say in response?
How was the conversation?
How much did you push her to ripe conversational topics?
Any teasing?

Sounds like she might have been attracted to you, 1) short skirt, 2) agreed to a home date, 3) brought alcohol - but you didn't do the rest of the work of making her interested in you, and stoking her vaginal fires through conversation and leading her emotions.

WIA

[bike0369]

(09-29-2013 01:58 AM)master_thespian Wrote:  

Nurses are all greedy whores this chick is definitely bangable.

As for "what should you do differently", I would definitely say that you aren't escalating enough. As for why she didn't want to dance, maybe she really doesn't like to dance or just wasn't comfortable with you yet. It sounds like she might just be a conservative girl(but I doubt it, because she is a nurse and most nurses are greedy whores, and I say that with all of the love in the world)

there have been a lot of good threads on here about escalation.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-24038.html

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-24042-...#pid450235

here are a couple of good ones.

Thanks Thespian. Agreed- didn't escalate enough. There was so little in return and the fact that my last quick escalation on another girl didn't work well (other story), so I was a bit more cautious.

As for dance, she said she can dance only when really drunk on cocktails. To which I said, let's go have vodka, but she didn't want to get wasted. Stayed on wine.

Any suggestions from you and WIA on how to turn it around? BTW, we've exchanged a few msgs since.

[bike0369]

(09-29-2013 02:58 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Doesn't sound like you used much game at all.

You had a chick over for dinner.
Plied her with liquor and moved her to your bedroom for ice cream.

Sounds like a ton of romance, the kind of stuff you would use before learning anything about Game.

What did you actually talk about?
What did you say to her?
What did she say in response?
How was the conversation?
How much did you push her to ripe conversational topics?
Any teasing?

Sounds like she might have been attracted to you, 1) short skirt, 2) agreed to a home date, 3) brought alcohol - but you didn't do the rest of the work of making her interested in you, and stoking her vaginal fires through conversation and leading her emotions.

WIA

That's a great summary WIA. Without writing a novel, I felt it was too romantic and little or no 'game'. I think the conversation was too much about 'comfortable' topics - travel, fitness, food, social life etc., and there was little or no sexual tension. I did tease her some, but not enough.

Would need to turn this around- I like this girl, and it would be my first nurse, so am quite open to suggestions. Thanks!

[Aliblahba]

Respect her rights as a woman and let her take it at her own pace. Anything else is rape.





























No I'm kidding.

[WestIndianArchie]

(09-29-2013 09:21 AM)bike0369 Wrote:  

That's a great summary WIA. Without writing a novel, I felt it was too romantic and little or no 'game'. I think the conversation was too much about 'comfortable' topics - travel, fitness, food, social life etc., and there was little or no sexual tension. I did tease her some, but not enough.

Would need to turn this around- I like this girl, and it would be my first nurse, so am quite open to suggestions. Thanks!

Write the novel! Always write the novel!

If you can hustle up a 2nd date, do something on the town and make it somewhat of an adventure. Sounds very blue-pill ish, but you really have to do something to get her adrenaline, serotonin, and dopamine pumping.

I don't really know how things go down in Singapore. You might be inundated with so much culture, horrible logistics, et cetera. But you've got to break the chick out of her everyday boredom in order to run your material.

WIA

[aphelion]

Soldier on but I think this one is a lost cause. Sounds like a pretty awkward first date.