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Types of social relationships and how they relate to banging women
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Types of social relationships and how they relate to banging women

I've been wanting to post this for a while. Growing up the hardest thing to learn and understand are all the different types of social relationships a man can have and what you can and can't do ...where the lines are.

Let me break them down:

1. Friend - A friend is some you know from school, from your neighborhood etc. Someone you share a similar background with. Someone you have loyalty to. Someone that you'd help out at the drop of a hat. Trust and respect are implied. You shouldn't bang a friend's girlfriend, sister or relative. If you end up in a situation where his girl hits on you or if you end up banging it's your responsibility as a friend to tell him ask for forgiveness. If his sister or relative likes you he should be cool with it and let you bang her. It's generally not cool to cold approach though.

2. Acquaintance - (A friend of a friend) a 2nd degree relationship. Someone you've met through a mutual friend. You don't owe this person anything except maybe a handshake and a friendly greeting when introduced. It may be somewhat frowned upon to bang a girlfriend or relative of an acquaintance but in reality it is his problem to deal with not yours. The mistake most people make is assuming that an acquaintance is a friend. Learn the difference between the two.

3. Colleague - A business relationship. Similar to a friend because you have a shared background or interest. Usually someone you know from college with the same degree or through work. A colleague is someone you can call or network with when you're looking for a job. A good person to use as a reference. It's not ok to bang a colleague's girlfriend or relative without major consequences like destroying your professional network. It will ultimately hurt you long term. Tread lightly. Although if you play it right you can leverage this relationship and achieve great things together. Starting a business or hitting the bars and macking on girls when away on business trips together. A colleague appears like a friend but is closer related to an acquaintance.

4. Your Boss - A boss is someone who has power over you. He may be friendly and a generally good guy but make no mistake he is not your friend. He has no loyalty to you. His one and only loyalty is to the company. He will sell you out in a heartbeat to protect his ass and his job. Remember he has a family and a mortgage to pay. Don't try to bang his wife/ daughter/ secretary or any female associated with him. In rare circumstances a boss may do coke and pay for hookers for you. But this is the exception not the rule. Dating a boss's daughter is Uber-risky. I would only do it if she showed interest and pursues you. The rewards might be great but not likely.

5. Female friend - Same as male friend above but with the obvious distinction of possibly banging. Don't cross a female friend any more than you'd cross a male friend. The consequences to your dating life may be catastrophic. A female friend shouldn't be asking you for favors like fixing her car without offering something in return ...sex, dinner etc. If she has some social value to you as in always introduces you to her single/slutty female friends then it's ok to do a free* favor for her once in a while. A female friend can be a great resource. Be careful banging a female friend. It's rare that it ends up as a "friends with benefits" type of thing. It can happen but most of the time she develops feelings. Beware of feelings.

6. Friend's Wife - Obviously it's not ok to bang a friend's wife. But if you're in good with his wife great things can happen. Lots of party invites Carte Blanche to bang her friends, sisters, cousins, colleagues etc. The ultimate wing-girl with infinite pussy resources. Always be cool with your friend's wife. Always remember though ...she's not really your friend. Anything she may need or want from you should be handled through her husband. She's out to hook up her girlfriends with a good husband and not you with a hot girlfriend. She has an agenda. Beware.

7. Friend's girlfriend - Almost like a friend's wife but with a lot less loyalty. Since she's not married she has less to lose if she wants to bang you since no house, kids or money are involved. Don't bang your friend's girlfriend. Leverage your friendship and use it to bang all her friends. All fair game.

8. Friend's ex-girlfriend - This is a special category. If you want to bang a friend's ex you should have "the conversation" with him prior. You'll never know if your friend still has residual feeling for her. It's best to ask out of respect for the friendship. Be careful though. I banged one girl that my friend dated 20 years prior without asking him first. When I called him the next day and told him he was cool about it but in reality he still has residual feelings. He ended up trashing me to some mutual friends over it. Cover your bases and always tell the truth.

Feel free to expand on or extend my list.

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Types of social relationships and how they relate to banging women

This should be stickied.
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Types of social relationships and how they relate to banging women

Quote: (09-23-2013 12:42 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

5. Female friend - Same as male friend above but with the obvious distinction of possibly banging. Don't cross a female friend any more than you'd cross a male friend. The consequences to your dating life may catastrophic. A female friend shouldn't be asking you for favors like fixing her car without offering something in return ...sex, dinner etc. If she has some social value to you as in always introduces you to her single/slutty female friends then it's ok to do a free* favor for her once in a while. A female friend can be a great resource. Be careful banging a female friend. It's rare that it ends up as a 'friends with benefits" type of thing. It can happen but most of the time she develops feelings. Beware of feelings.

Nice breakdown Parlay.

# 5. Female Friend - stood out to me as a particularly special case.

In my experience, a women has no problem being "just friends" with a man. But on the other side of this, is where blue pill men the world over wallow in the infamous "friend zone". For a red pill men, I don't believe platonic friendship with a female is sustainable.

The girls I'm "friends" with these days are all ex-lovers. I can't imagine striking up a 100% platonic friendship with a woman. One which mirrors the same dynamic I'd have with a guy friend, where I could speak my mind freely, with 0% judgement.

My lifestyle is impossible to relate to for blue pill guys, much less red pill women. I've tried it. Some think they can hang, but at the end of the day, there's still a hamster running the show.
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Types of social relationships and how they relate to banging women

Quote: (09-23-2013 01:42 PM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  

Nice breakdown Parlay.

Thanks. I like to help out the younger guys here and share what I've learned from my mistakes.

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Types of social relationships and how they relate to banging women

Quote: (09-23-2013 12:42 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

I've been wanting to post this for a while. Growing up the hardest thing to learn and understand are all the different types of social relationships a man can have and what you can and can't do ...where the lines are.

Let me break them down:

1. Friend - A friend is some you know from school, from your neighborhood etc. Someone you share a similar background with. Someone you have loyalty to. Someone that you'd help out at the drop of a hat. Trust and respect are implied. You shouldn't bang a friend's girlfriend, sister or relative. If you end up in a situation where his girl hits on you or if you end up banging it's your responsibility as a friend to tell him ask for forgiveness. If his sister or relative likes you he should be cool with it and let you bang her. It's generally not cool to cold approach though.

Avoid meeting your friend's sister. If he knows how you work, and she is hot, he shouldn't parade her in front of you. That said, if you are banging a lot of girls, you don't have to fuck up your friendship. Definitely don't bang your friend's sister unless you have his blessing

2. Acquaintance - (A friend of a friend) a 2nd degree relationship. Someone you've met through a mutual friend. You don't owe this person anything except maybe a handshake and a friendly greeting when introduced. It may be somewhat frowned upon to bang a girlfriend or relative of an acquaintance but in reality it is his problem to deal with not yours. The mistake most people make is assuming that an acquaintance is a friend. Learn the difference between the two.


3. Colleague - A business relationship. Similar to a friend because you have a shared background or interest. Usually someone you know from college with the same degree or through work. A colleague is someone you can call or network with when you're looking for a job. A good person to use as a reference. It's not ok to bang a colleague's girlfriend or relative without major consequences like destroying your professional network. It will ultimately hurt you long term. Tread lightly. Although if you play it right you can leverage this relationship and achieve great things together. Starting a business or hitting the bars and macking on girls when away on business trips together. A colleague appears like a friend but is closer related to an acquaintance.

Don't hang out with blue pill guys. You will never respect him and will bang his girl.

4. Your Boss - A boss is someone who has power over you. He may be friendly and a generally good guy but make no mistake he is not your friend. He has no loyalty to you. His one and only loyalty is to the company. He will sell you out in a heartbeat to protect his ass and his job. Remember he has a family and a mortgage to pay. Don't try to bang his wife/ daughter/ secretary or any female associated with him. In rare circumstances a boss may do coke and pay for hookers for you. But this is the exception not the rule. Dating a boss's daughter is Uber-risky. I would only do it if she showed interest and pursues you. The rewards might be great but not likely.

Don't shit where you eat. Avoid fucking the bosses daughter, but realize that it's probably one of the greatest joys a player can experience. She'd better be worth it though.

More importantly, don't have a boss or pledge your allegiance to one person. You don't want anyone person to have greater than 2/3 influence on your cash flow.


5. Female friend - Same as male friend above but with the obvious distinction of possibly banging. Don't cross a female friend any more than you'd cross a male friend. The consequences to your dating life may be catastrophic. A female friend shouldn't be asking you for favors like fixing her car without offering something in return ...sex, dinner etc. If she has some social value to you as in always introduces you to her single/slutty female friends then it's ok to do a free* favor for her once in a while. A female friend can be a great resource. Be careful banging a female friend. It's rare that it ends up as a "friends with benefits" type of thing. It can happen but most of the time she develops feelings. Beware of feelings.

Agreed, but I don't really believe men and women can be friends. They can work together towards common goals though.

6. Friend's Wife - Obviously it's not ok to bang a friend's wife. But if you're in good with his wife great things can happen. Lots of party invites Carte Blanche to bang her friends, sisters, cousins, colleagues etc. The ultimate wing-girl with infinite pussy resources. Always be cool with your friend's wife. Always remember though ...she's not really your friend. Anything she may need or want from you should be handled through her husband. She's out to hook up her girlfriends with a good husband and not you with a hot girlfriend. She has an agenda. Beware.

Again, if you are a player, avoid hanging out with married guys. As far as your game goes, no good can come out of it. Married people just want attention. They often want to suck you into their drama or tool you to spice up their sex life. Married guys are the worst to go gaming with. They will cockblock and get in your way and don't give a shit.

7. Friend's girlfriend - Almost like a friend's wife but with a lot less loyalty. Since she's not married she has less to lose if she wants to bang you since no house, kids or money are involved. Don't bang your friend's girlfriend. Leverage your friendship and use it to bang all her friends. All fair game.

Agreed

8. Friend's ex-girlfriend - This is a special category. If you want to bang a friend's ex you should have "the conversation" with him prior. You'll never know if your friend still has residual feeling for her. It's best to ask out of respect for the friendship. Be careful though. I banged one girl that my friend dated 20 years prior without asking him first. When I called him the next day and told him he was cool about it but in reality he still has residual feelings. He ended up trashing me to some mutual friends over it. Cover your bases and always tell the truth.

This is probably a friend you made before your pre-red pill days. In the future avoid hanging out with non-players if you are a player. If a guy has a girlfriend, he's not really a player. I think that if you get a girlfriend, it's ok to hang out with other guy's that have girlfriends.

If you have a bluepill friend, and you fuck his girlfriend. Don't ever tell him. There's no need, and it will only hurt him. He won't understand you. If you are charismatic enough (have good game), he should trust you more than his girl (if she tells him that she cheated on him with you), and should realize that his girl is just trying to make him feel like shit by saying that regardless of whether or not it happened. If he believes her over you, then he's not worth your friendship even if you fucked his girl.

I would never fuck another player's (or a player who is taking a break) regular girl without his blessing. A good player is also a good wing, and they are hard to find. Don't fuck things up with him.


Feel free to expand on or extend my list.
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Types of social relationships and how they relate to banging women

Quote: (09-23-2013 01:42 PM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  

In my experience, a women has no problem being "just friends" with a man. But on the other side of this, is where blue pill men the world over wallow in the infamous "friend zone". For a red pill men, I don't believe platonic friendship with a female is sustainable.

The girls I'm "friends" with these days are all ex-lovers. I can't imagine striking up a 100% platonic friendship with a woman. One which mirrors the same dynamic I'd have with a guy friend, where I could speak my mind freely, with 0% judgement.

For a blue pill, unsustainable in its entirety. For a red pill, it's as sustainable as the guy wants or until the girl can't stand developing feelings for the dude.

I've fairly recently made one female friend - she's got a lot of social access, fun and interesting to talk to, so I keep it at that. It helps me understand the female's mind to get to know one well without the complications of a relationship. I can do this because I frankly don't care whether I bang her or not. I meet other girls all the time; why get hung up on one?

That said, it is a different dynamic. Very few people in the world can you maintain a 100% free of judgement friendship; what I've learnt is that there's certain boundaries you learn that your friends have and subconsciously avoid them. I'm willing to balance the 10-20% of the conversations I avoid for the benefits of the social access and the understanding of them.
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Good write up. +1
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Types of social relationships and how they relate to banging women

What about the boundaries between "Female friend" and "Female"?

I've been out daygaming a lot recently, and I have been getting quite a few of them to come hang out with me. But I'm having trouble figuring out whether or not they are interested in me or if they just want a friend. How do I make that clear to them via my interactions?
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Quote: (09-23-2013 10:23 PM)chakri Wrote:  

What about the boundaries between "Female friend" and "Female"?

I've been out daygaming a lot recently, and I have been getting quite a few of them to come hang out with me. But I'm having trouble figuring out whether or not they are interested in me or if they just want a friend. How do I make that clear to them via my interactions?

If you're picking up girls during the day then you're doing ok and better than most guys. Work on your dating skills. Drink dates, isolation, kino and the bounce back to your place. Keep your vibe sexual and fun.

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Quote: (09-23-2013 10:41 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Quote: (09-23-2013 10:23 PM)chakri Wrote:  

What about the boundaries between "Female friend" and "Female"?

I've been out daygaming a lot recently, and I have been getting quite a few of them to come hang out with me. But I'm having trouble figuring out whether or not they are interested in me or if they just want a friend. How do I make that clear to them via my interactions?

If you're picking up girls during the day then you're doing ok and better than most guys. Work on your dating skills. Drink dates, isolation, kino and the bounce back to your place. Keep your vibe sexual and fun.

Usually during the initial encounter, I'm inviting them out to hang out with some sort of excuse (e.g. they just moved here and I'll show them around town, etc.). Do I make my intentions known during that initial encounter, or during the first official hangout session?

PS. I apologize if I'm hijacking the thread topic.
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Quote: (09-23-2013 10:48 PM)chakri Wrote:  

Usually during the initial encounter, I'm inviting them out to hang out with some sort of excuse (e.g. they just moved here and I'll show them around town, etc.). Do I make my intentions known during that initial encounter, or during the first official hangout session?

PS. I apologize if I'm hijacking the thread topic.

Your best chance of banging is at night. You offering to show them around kinda gives off a friendship vibe to me. If you're going to spend most of a day with a woman like that make sure you spend most of that time making a nice emotional connection with her. Grab her hand to cross the street kinda stuff. End the date at a bar. Get a few drinks in her and go for some kino(touching).

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A lot of that comes off in body language; regardless of how you say it, express interest in body language. You have to express interest in some form or another, or it falls flat and you end up just as friends. To save time, I would recommend making at least some bit of intentions known before you hang out - that way you don't waste time going and hanging out with someone not interested in that possibility at all.

Then go with what Parlay says there; do it at night, show her the night life, grab a few drinks, have a fun time and steadily proceed with the physical side of the interaction.
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Quote: (09-23-2013 10:23 PM)chakri Wrote:  

What about the boundaries between "Female friend" and "Female"?

I've been out daygaming a lot recently, and I have been getting quite a few of them to come hang out with me. But I'm having trouble figuring out whether or not they are interested in me or if they just want a friend. How do I make that clear to them via my interactions?

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Quote: (09-26-2013 04:42 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Quote: (09-23-2013 10:23 PM)chakri Wrote:  

What about the boundaries between "Female friend" and "Female"?

I've been out daygaming a lot recently, and I have been getting quite a few of them to come hang out with me. But I'm having trouble figuring out whether or not they are interested in me or if they just want a friend. How do I make that clear to them via my interactions?

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I don't have a bike [Image: amuse.gif]. Any other suggestions?
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Excellent break down.
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Types of social relationships and how they relate to banging women

Being "platonic" friends with women would eventually collapse because attraction would develop somehow.
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Types of social relationships and how they relate to banging women

This is an excellent analysis. For me the biggest problem was to understand what the other person thinks what you are for them. Kinda sucks if you think someone is a colleague, but he thinks you are a friend for him.
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