[nicosuave]

DISCLAIMER:
Hey guys, this is my first thread (not a bot), but I have been reading for years. BANG Iceland was my bible for my excursion to Reykjavik and Akureyri...(dive Silfra if anyone is a diver...)...

So back to the topic...

How do you maintain your alpha?

You go to a party that a married couple is hosting. The hostess is giving you signs from the beginning but since you just met the group you have told yourself you aren't going for her. Like Mayweather's shoulder roll (classic/textbook/none better) you do your own thing, but this girl is still on you...what do you do?

Alpha would say take her down, but you know that can't happen. When this occurs you revert to beta and schmooze with the crowd, be submissive, etc. In your mind you KNOW that this is easy work, but due to circumstances you won't do it...how do you maintain your alpha?

[presidentcarter]

[nicosuave]

Give me a case of those if that's the solution (yeah right!)....

Maybe I phrased the question wrong but people have been talking about it...look at the "can you turn down a sure thing (http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-28326.html0)" thread..

[haywire]

If you have to think and make efforts towards "maintaining your alpha" you're probably not alpha yet. "Alpha" is not about evaluating and being conscious of your actions but rather being, living and acting CONFIDENT and self assured, without making any effort - just naturally.

If you're doing certain actions just to "maintain your alpha", then you're just faking it.

[nicosuave]

I'm talking about making a decision to not game a girl due to social situations...call it what you want, but don't act like you don't evaluate/are conscious of your actions

[haywire]

Well, evaluating and being conscious of your actions is one thing, but doing so for the sake of "maintaining your alpha" defeats the purpose, IMO. Perhaps the so-called "alphadom" comes with age and experience for some guys, when you learn to not give a shit about your actions and just do whatever the fuck you want to without trying to please anyone, even if it's your projection of perfection. If you're miserable/conflicted while trying to attain/maintain alpha, you might appear so to the rest of the world but in actuality you're just deceiving yourself in the worst possible way.

I really don't mean to put you down, just trying to share my perspective.

[The Beast1]

The word you need to learn is magnanimous.

You always act like a leader and be magnanimous.

[mental]

How to be alpha:
1. just do it

[presidentcarter]

I thought about becoming alpha before I became alpha.

Was that beta?

[Parlay44]

Roids, coke and Viagra

[AneroidOcean]

(09-23-2013 01:10 AM)nicosuave Wrote:  

DISCLAIMER:
Hey guys, this is my first thread (not a bot), but I have been reading for years. BANG Iceland was my bible for my excursion to Reykjavik and Akureyri...(dive Silfra if anyone is a diver...)...

So back to the topic...

How do you maintain your alpha?

You go to a party that a married couple is hosting. The hostess is giving you signs from the beginning but since you just met the group you have told yourself you aren't going for her. Like Mayweather's shoulder roll (classic/textbook/none better) you do your own thing, but this girl is still on you...what do you do?

Alpha would say take her down, but you know that can't happen. When this occurs you revert to beta and schmooze with the crowd, be submissive, etc. In your mind you KNOW that this is easy work, but due to circumstances you won't do it...how do you maintain your alpha?

Easy work? To bang a woman at her and her husband's party while lots of other people are there? No, the easy work would not be to bang her there and probably not a smart decision. If you want to bang her it would be on the sly. Not banging a married woman in this situation doesn't make you beta.

[Giovonny]

Great question...

Personally, for me, the best way to maintain my "alpha" is to fight. I don't mean street fighting, I mean controlled sparring (Boxing). Street fighting is too dangerous. Being dead is beta..

This keeps me in a very intense, violent, competitive mindset. I like this primal, animalistic mindframe.

I like to test myself against other guys. I want to see who is tougher. I want to see who would win in a fight to the death. That sounds crude but for me, that is the essence of "alpha".

If there was no police to protect you -- Who would control the women and resources?

That is The Law of The Jungle, in my crazy opinion.

When I fight/spar, I am able to demonstrate and test my abilities in the real world. I don't have to guess or wonder about how tough I am. I can find out exactly where I stand.

I am an alpha or a beta? I can usually find out in a matter of minutes.

I know that 99% of guys are not doing this. So, that fact lets me know that I am already in the top 1% of guys.

Life is a game, a competition. I like to nurture a fiercely competitive mindset.

I want to out-compete other men. Isn't that what alpha is all about..?

Other things that help me maintain my alpha are:

1) Aggressively chasing girls and pushing hard for s*x with no shame.
2) Competing against other men in games of skill and wit.
3) Studying other alphas
4) Sports
5) Direct Sober Day Game. (Or, drunk)
6) Banging girls half my age
7) Cultivating my mind and trying to eliminate all fear while at the same time developing my abundance mentality and sense of superiority.
8) Nature

[likeacarsalesman]

There's a difference between not gaming a girl because you don't have the balls vs not gaming a girl because
a) the logistics suck and you're looking for a notch that night
b) you won't gain any novel experience from doing it
c) you have a better chance of getting laid by her friends

You probably have a better chance of fucking the married woman if you don't bang her that night. Instead, build value with her then have her build value FOR you with her friends. If you bang one of her single friends, she will want to bang you more than she did before and eventually you will fuck her.
Theres nothing beta about friendzoning a girl if shes got a hot social circle.

[likeacarsalesman]

There's a difference between not gaming a girl because you don't have the balls vs not gaming a girl because
a) the logistics suck and you're looking for a notch that night
b) you won't gain any novel experience from doing it
c) you have a better chance of getting laid by her friends

You probably have a better chance of fucking the married woman if you don't bang her that night. Instead, build value with her then have her build value FOR you with her friends. If you bang one of her single friends, she will want to bang you more than she did before and eventually you will fuck her.
Theres nothing beta about friendzoning a girl if shes got a hot social circle.

[nicosuave]

(09-23-2013 03:39 PM)haywire Wrote:  

Well, evaluating and being conscious of your actions is one thing, but doing so for the sake of "maintaining your alpha" defeats the purpose, IMO. Perhaps the so-called "alphadom" comes with age and experience for some guys, when you learn to not give a shit about your actions and just do whatever the fuck you want to without trying to please anyone, even if it's your projection of perfection. If you're miserable/conflicted while trying to attain/maintain alpha, you might appear so to the rest of the world but in actuality you're just deceiving yourself in the worst possible way.

I really don't mean to put you down, just trying to share my perspective.

I guess I phrased the question wrong.

I don't think I will ever be able to "not give a shit about my actions" but I do "whatever the fuck you want without trying to please anyone" to an extent (I doubt YOU truly do WHATEVER you want...).

I don't think you're trying to put me down- don't worry about that. I think it's a misunderstanding. I'm not miserable/conflicted in the least. It's just when an opportunity presents itself, i.e. a girl with a bf/husband flirting with you (with him in the same room), I do not/will not flirt back blatantly (giving the attention whore what she wants), which she may think is being a beta/wimpy because she may interpret as me being blinded by her beauty/being shy. Negging her IMO isn't advisable because her man is in the room and she can tell him and start even more drama...

[nicosuave]

(09-25-2013 03:46 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Great question...

Personally, for me, the best way to maintain my "alpha" is to fight. I don't mean street fighting, I mean controlled sparring (Boxing). Street fighting is too dangerous. Being dead is beta..

This keeps me in a very intense, violent, competitive mindset. I like this primal, animalistic mindframe.

I like to test myself against other guys. I want to see who is tougher. I want to see who would win in a fight to the death. That sounds crude but for me, that is the essence of "alpha".

If there was no police to protect you -- Who would control the women and resources?

That is The Law of The Jungle, in my crazy opinion.

When I fight/spar, I am able to demonstrate and test my abilities in the real world. I don't have to guess or wonder about how tough I am. I can find out exactly where I stand.

I am an alpha or a beta? I can usually find out in a matter of minutes.

I know that 99% of guys are not doing this. So, that fact lets me know that I am already in the top 1% of guys.

Life is a game, a competition. I like to nurture a fiercely competitive mindset.

I want to out-compete other men. Isn't that what alpha is all about..?

Other things that help me maintain my alpha are:

1) Aggressively chasing girls and pushing hard for s*x with no shame.
2) Competing against other men in games of skill and wit.
3) Studying other alphas
4) Sports
5) Direct Sober Day Game. (Or, drunk)
6) Banging girls half my age
7) Cultivating my mind and trying to eliminate all fear while at the same time developing my abundance mentality and sense of superiority.
8) Nature

Thanks for your input. I already do a handful of these things (plus a lot of others...backpacking, trap/skeet shooting, sailing, snowboarding, language study, playing musical instruments, etc.). Like I said, I must have phrased the original post wrong if it is soliciting lifestyle/fitness/hobby tips....

[nicosuave]

(09-28-2013 03:33 PM)likeacarsalesman Wrote:  

There's a difference between not gaming a girl because you don't have the balls vs not gaming a girl because
a) the logistics suck and you're looking for a notch that night
b) you won't gain any novel experience from doing it
c) you have a better chance of getting laid by her friends

You probably have a better chance of fucking the married woman if you don't bang her that night. Instead, build value with her then have her build value FOR you with her friends. If you bang one of her single friends, she will want to bang you more than she did before and eventually you will fuck her.
Theres nothing beta about friendzoning a girl if shes got a hot social circle.

My question isn't how to bang a taken girl while she is flirting with me in front of her man. It is how do you deflect/diffuse her advances gracefully while not looking beta and ruining things down the line with her and any other females in the room...

[Giovonny]

(10-02-2013 11:15 PM)nicosuave Wrote:  

Thanks for your input. I already do a handful of these things (plus a lot of others...backpacking, trap/skeet shooting, sailing, snowboarding, language study, playing musical instruments, etc.). Like I said, I must have phrased the original post wrong if it is soliciting lifestyle/fitness/hobby tips....

Oh ya! Opps! I didn't read your original post when I responded..

I just went back and read it, but, I'm not exactly sure what you are asking???

What is your question for us?

[likeacarsalesman]

(10-02-2013 11:18 PM)nicosuave Wrote:  

My question isn't how to bang a taken girl while she is flirting with me in front of her man.

My advice suggested not to do that because the logistics suck especially if you want to bang her single friends.

(10-02-2013 11:18 PM)nicosuave Wrote:  

It is how do you deflect/diffuse her advances gracefully while not looking beta and ruining things down the line with her and any other females in the room...

That's exactly the type of advice I was giving you. Build value with her without escalating for sex. I'm assuming she isn't trying to physically escalate because you said she's just giving you "signs." If that's the case, you just ignore those signs and build value. Ignore the behavior you don't want and validate the behavior you do want. There's nothing more high value/alpha than comfortably and confidently ignoring the advances of a married woman in front of her man.

You are getting pre-selection from an attractive married woman, so you're in a great position with the other females in the room. And I don't get why you think deflecting the advances of a married woman makes you appear beta. As long as your actions are congruent with what you want from this woman, she will respect you and give you value as an alpha male. I don't see a problem here. I see an advantageous situation if you play it the right way.


P.S. If she is physically escalating for sex (in a sloppy obvious way), the best move is to bring in the husband. Say something like "your girl is a wild one. Better wrangle her in or you might lose her" in a light, playful way. If he's alpha, he will respond well. If he's beta, he will probably act emotionally and debase himself in front of a bunch of people. Either way, you come across as alpha and higher value than both of them.

[nicosuave]

Been off the forum for a bit, thanks for everyone's thoughts!