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Quote: (09-14-2013 09:19 AM)soup Wrote:
Muslces aren't just masses of meat. They are formed with purpose. You could look like a walking balloon man and not have any function.
Quote: (09-14-2013 11:23 AM)MikeCF Wrote:
I can't remember the name of the arm wrestler who is moving into bodybuilding. His arm is the largest thing I've ever seen.
While on Google images looking for him, I found this. Apparently it's not a hoax.
Quote: (09-14-2013 11:20 AM)MikeCF Wrote:
Quote: (09-14-2013 09:19 AM)soup Wrote:
Muslces aren't just masses of meat. They are formed with purpose. You could look like a walking balloon man and not have any function.
A 177 pound college wrestler would handle the arm wrestler in a wrestling match.
A middleweight boxer woud be able to knock the arm wrestler out in a boxing match.
There is no such Platonic concept as "function." Everything is relative to the sport being performed, i.e., the rules of the sport and the technique.
A friend of mine was a cross country runner state champion. He wanted to box with me and assumed I'd gas out and he'd be able to win.
After a minute he was breathing hard and he was gassed after 2 rounds.
Was I in better shape than he was? As measured by VO2 max or other lab test, hell no. As measured by a running race? Not a chance.
But I knew technique and how to move my body, which led to efficiency of movement.
So I was in substantially better shape than he was with respect to the function of boxing.
Quote: (09-14-2013 11:37 AM)soup Wrote:
I love the idea that there are little skinny guys out there who can kick the ass of big muscular guys.
Quote: (09-14-2013 11:48 AM)MikeCF Wrote:
Technique beats size (absence chance, which is always a factor in a fight):
Quote: (09-14-2013 11:48 AM)MikeCF Wrote:
Technique beats size (absence chance, which is always a factor in a fight):
Quote: (09-14-2013 11:45 AM)MikeCF Wrote:
Quote: (09-14-2013 11:37 AM)soup Wrote:
I love the idea that there are little skinny guys out there who can kick the ass of big muscular guys.
Not to get too much into sports psychology....But...
This tells me you still identify with the small kid/unsuccessful person.
That's a red flag to me about your "inner game."
You should work on finding ways to identify with the strong and admire achievement rather than admire the weak for "pulling one over" on the strong.
Quote: (09-14-2013 12:41 PM)Hades Wrote:
It's dishonest to make conclusions about this. The bodybuilder is not bloated with 'worthless pump muscle', he's clearly strong as shit (you can't have delts that big without being strong). Him getting beaten by a comparatively scrawny arm wrestler doesn't suddenly make him weak.
He's never trained for arm wrestling, which is probably all that the other guy does. Sport specific training makes the difference here.
That zasz dude who invented isometrics (forgot his name) and could break out of prisons by bending the bars and snapping chains said that through targeted isometric workouts, you can increase your strength almost linearly at about 5% increase per week for a very long time. You just assume the broken arm position against a beam or while holding a chain attached to a parked vehicle or something and exert maximally against it.
Give the bodybuilder like twenty weeks of dedicated arm wrestling training and teach him how to cheat *(arm wrestling "skill" is cheating) and he'd probably mop the floor with a lot of these guys.
Quote: (09-14-2013 12:53 PM)soup Wrote:
Quote: (09-14-2013 12:41 PM)Hades Wrote:
It's dishonest to make conclusions about this. The bodybuilder is not bloated with 'worthless pump muscle', he's clearly strong as shit (you can't have delts that big without being strong). Him getting beaten by a comparatively scrawny arm wrestler doesn't suddenly make him weak.
He's never trained for arm wrestling, which is probably all that the other guy does. Sport specific training makes the difference here.
That zasz dude who invented isometrics (forgot his name) and could break out of prisons by bending the bars and snapping chains said that through targeted isometric workouts, you can increase your strength almost linearly at about 5% increase per week for a very long time. You just assume the broken arm position against a beam or while holding a chain attached to a parked vehicle or something and exert maximally against it.
Give the bodybuilder like twenty weeks of dedicated arm wrestling training and teach him how to cheat *(arm wrestling "skill" is cheating) and he'd probably mop the floor with a lot of these guys.
That's what I mean- training. Not just having muscles and not knowing how to use them.
That's like giving a really nice guitar to a beginner.
Quote: (09-14-2013 11:45 AM)MikeCF Wrote:
Quote: (09-14-2013 11:37 AM)soup Wrote:
I love the idea that there are little skinny guys out there who can kick the ass of big muscular guys.
Not to get too much into sports psychology....But...
This tells me you still identify with the small kid/unsuccessful person.
That's a red flag to me about your "inner game."
You should work on finding ways to identify with the strong and admire achievement rather than admire the weak for "pulling one over" on the strong.
Quote: (09-14-2013 11:20 AM)MikeCF Wrote:
Quote: (09-14-2013 09:19 AM)soup Wrote:
Muslces aren't just masses of meat. They are formed with purpose. You could look like a walking balloon man and not have any function.
A 177 pound college wrestler would handle the arm wrestler in a wrestling match.
A middleweight boxer woud be able to knock the arm wrestler out in a boxing match.
There is no such Platonic concept as "function." Everything is relative to the sport being performed, i.e., the rules of the sport and the technique.
A friend of mine was a cross country runner state champion. He wanted to box with me and assumed I'd gas out and he'd be able to win.
After a minute he was breathing hard and he was gassed after 2 rounds.
Was I in better shape than he was? As measured by VO2 max or other lab test, hell no. As measured by a running race? Not a chance.
But I knew technique and how to move my body, which led to efficiency of movement.
So I was in substantially better shape than he was with respect to the function of boxing.