I've been in Guadalajara for a week now, I arrived last Friday evening and met up with fellow RVF members and legendary poon hounds 20nation and THC. Overall I haven't done anything too exciting as I just finished a three month hitch at work where I was working like a dog, basically all I wanted to do was sleep in and drink beer all day. Still I've seen a bit of the city and managed to get a bang and we also went out partying a few times, here's some details of the trip so far.
First impressions: As per usual, I made absolutely no plans before traveling, just packed my bags and hoped for the best. I took a taxi from the airport and told the driver to take me to a reasonably priced hotel in centro, which I thought would be close to the Chapultapec area where the boys were staying. I ended up staying at a hotel called Don quijote, at 600 pesos the price was okay but I now realize that I could have negotiated a better price. The location was decent if you want to check out the historic downtown (centro) area, which is quite nice with the Spanish colonial architecture but there's no decent clubs or bars in the area and quite a few glue sniffing tranny hookers walking around, especially on Avenida de Independecia, which is one block away.
Initially I wasn't impressed with the talent as I walked around centro during the day, I thought that these Mexicans may have been the ugliest people I've ever seen in my life: short, brown and quite a few fatties. My perception changed when we went out to some bars and clubs and I thought to myself "where the fuck were all of these good looking people hiding during the day?" After switching hotels and moving into the Chapultapec area, I realized that the good looking people don't live in the working class areas of centro, they're in the richer neighborhoods, no shit Sherlock, the same can be said of any city in the world. Also, September is the rainiest month of the year and it piss poured each night at the worst times (2000-2300) for the first three days, so that was bothering me as well as I hate being out in the rain while partying, it hasn't been raining to much the past few days, fortunately.
After spending the weekend staying in centro, THC and I both took rooms at Hotel Bernini which is a couple of blocks off Chapultapec, he negotiated a monthly rental at 11,000P and I got my room for 400P/night, which was a really good deal considering the listed price was almost double that. Despite the 1970's disco era interior, the rooms are nice: large, king size bed, sofa, coffee table, dining table and full kitchen.
Partying: Last Friday we hit up a sketchy strip club in centro near my hotel, no cover and beers were 50P, immediately after sitting down we each had strippers on our laps shoving their tits in our faces and grabbing our cocks. Having been in some shitty situations in third world strip clubs I figured we'd get charged for this, so I told the strippers we didn't want them around and that we were just having a beer. We watched the ugly strippers do their thing, rather unimpressed with the talent, we had a couple of beers then bounced, on the way out I had the bright idea to ask the doorman whether or not he could get us some blow. He looked at me as if he thought "does a bear shit in the woods?" Two minutes and 300 pesos later, I had a gram of booger sugar in hand, I kind of feel bad for introducing a friend to hard drugs but THC was down for doing blow for the first time, so out came the hotel key and the sniffing began. After getting ripped on the gear we decided to hit up a club called Lola Lolitas.
Lolitas is a small but nice club frequented by an upper class crowd and it was packed around midnight, we were searched upon entrance and I headed straight for the bar, I turned around and THC is already making out with a cute girl, at 20 seconds after entering, it was probably one of the quickest make outs I've ever witnessed, good job THC. She had a friend and 20nation quickly pounced on her, I proceeded to order three shots of tequila which came to 260P (about $20 USD), I thought tequila would be cheap here in Jalisco, but these are standard prices at this club. We ended up bouncing after 20nation saw one of his chicas there, I guess he didn't want to stay for whatever reason, so we hit up another club. I can't remember the name of the place but it seemed decent but when we got upstairs to the main dance floor area, we saw that it was a bit of a chorizo party that night. I grabbed a beer and sat down with 20nation, THC decided to go straight for a girl on the dance floor and ended up dancing with her for awhile. I thought that 20nation was gonna pass out as he looked tired then next thing I know, he's grinding on a decent looking girl with a big ass. After a couple of beers I ended up leaving as I saw no prospects and it was after 2am so I called it quits, the guys partied a bit more and got some numbers but no bangs.
Basically we've gone out a couple of more times, nothing too exciting, although I will mention that Lola Lolitas is bumping on Wednesday nights, which is ladies night when the chicas drink for free until midnight. Lots of dancing, some make outs and numbers, THC even took a girl home but the LMR was so intense that he kicked her out. The ratios at the clubs and bars haven't been great either, it seems like its similar to Colombia here where girls go out with groups of guys. Still, if you're a good looking white guy you'll have no problems meeting quality girls as 20nation and THC have been doing, myself I've met a couple and got a number that led nowhere. One girl I started dancing with at Lolitas was keen until she asked me what I was doing in GDL, after telling her that I'm only here for couple of weeks, she quickly left me hanging on the dance floor, I'll have to lie next time haha.
We hit up a super dodgy after hours one night in centro, I wasn't entirely comfortable being there as it was sketchy as fuck, there were a few okay looking women there who of course were hookers. At one point a guy said to 20nation that we shouldn't be there, its not a safe place for Gringos, THC seemed oblivious to this, enjoying the Mexican music and the cute whore sitting on his lap. Having spent so much time in the relative safety of SE Asia, I think THC is finally realizing that its very different in Latin America and dodgy whore houses aren't the best places to be at 6am. We ended up dancing with some skanks but didn't leave with any as they all wanted money, as most of us on here know, shoring isn't common in LA as it is in SE Asia.
My bang: I got this through pipelining, which I didn't do much of but this girl was my most solid lead. I wish I had done more internet game but I really can't stand it, especially in Spanish, I find it really annoying. So I met up with this girl on a Sunday afternoon in Chapultapec, I was severly hung over from the night before and straight up told her this, we had a coffee and chatted. I was having a hard time with my Spanish and the hang over didn't help, the girl was pretty cool though and took me to pharmacy to get some Aspirin. We walked around a bit then I suggested we take a taxi to centro and get something to eat, knowing we'd be close to my hotel. She paid for the taxi and chipped in on the meal, which was cool, we had a smoke outside the restaurant and after that I kissed her and we had a brief make out session, it wasn't too hard to convince her to go to my hotel to "relax and watch TV". We made out some more, she put up some LMR for about 30-45 minutes but in the end I got the bang, wasn't the best sex ever and honestly she wasn't the hottest girl ever, I'll give her a 5, she could be a 6 if she lost about 10 lbs, oh well, got the flag outta the way!
Restaurants/bars: Plenty of places along Chapultapec and that's pretty much the only place we've been going, they're busy on the weekends and after office hours. One place I've hit up a couple of times is called Wings Army, not very Mexican but the place is packed around 1700-2000 with a young crowd and pretty waitresses, including two who have huge asses. For more authentic Mexican, we've been hitting up a place called La Gorda, prices for a decent meal range from 40-80P. Other than that we've been eating at some street meat places where the tacos are tasty and cheap.
Quality of women: Jalisco has the reputation of having some of the most attractive women in all of Mexico, despite my initial observation of the fugly girls in centro, I now see how this could be true as I've seen some pretty hot women out at night and during the day in Chapultapec. There's some very light skinned women who most would consider to be a classic Latina beauty and the darker ones are pretty hot too, although there isn't as much variety as I've observed in Colombia (no black girls here). Despite my easy bang, I think the girls tend to be a bit on the conservative side, similar to Colombia in that they likely take a couple of dates to bang, this definitely isn't SE Asia. The girls seem horny enough and of course like dancing and make outs are easy to come by but from what we've seen so far, they aren't keen on leaving with a random guy in front of their friends. All of the girls we've approached so far have been really friendly, some even speak English fairly well although I wouldn't count on it, which brings me to my next point....
Spanish language skills: I'd say its almost essential to speak at least conversational Spanish here, its been a year since I've spoke Spanish (my last trip to Colombia) and I'm so rusty that its hurting me and I'm less confident in my approaches. THC didn't speak any Spanish at all (although he's catching on quick) and its hurting him in his success with the local ladies, although he's getting LOTS of attention (stares, smiles, dancing, make outs, etc) the lack of language skills is his only handicap. 20nation is doing very well in GDL, he literally has a harem here after living here for the past two months, I've met two of his regulars and they're hot girls in their early twenties, once of them is actually quite wealthy (has her own car, a really nice one). He's also doing well with night game which is in large part due to his good Spanish skills.
GDL overall: I really like this city, I'll write some more about it later but I would definitely recommend it as a place to come and stay for a month or more, I could see myself setting up shop here as 20nation and THC have done, maybe study Spanish here and definitely date the local women. I don't think its a great destination to pass through for a few days and expect to get quality bangs, especially if your Spanish isn't great.
Anyway, I'm on my way to Puerto Vallarta tomorrow, taking the four hour bus, its a big weekend, Mexican Independence day, so it should be a good time. If any of you have any tips or information about PV, I definitely welcome it, I've been doing a bit of research and will likely stay in the Malecon area.
Adios amigos!
First impressions: As per usual, I made absolutely no plans before traveling, just packed my bags and hoped for the best. I took a taxi from the airport and told the driver to take me to a reasonably priced hotel in centro, which I thought would be close to the Chapultapec area where the boys were staying. I ended up staying at a hotel called Don quijote, at 600 pesos the price was okay but I now realize that I could have negotiated a better price. The location was decent if you want to check out the historic downtown (centro) area, which is quite nice with the Spanish colonial architecture but there's no decent clubs or bars in the area and quite a few glue sniffing tranny hookers walking around, especially on Avenida de Independecia, which is one block away.
Initially I wasn't impressed with the talent as I walked around centro during the day, I thought that these Mexicans may have been the ugliest people I've ever seen in my life: short, brown and quite a few fatties. My perception changed when we went out to some bars and clubs and I thought to myself "where the fuck were all of these good looking people hiding during the day?" After switching hotels and moving into the Chapultapec area, I realized that the good looking people don't live in the working class areas of centro, they're in the richer neighborhoods, no shit Sherlock, the same can be said of any city in the world. Also, September is the rainiest month of the year and it piss poured each night at the worst times (2000-2300) for the first three days, so that was bothering me as well as I hate being out in the rain while partying, it hasn't been raining to much the past few days, fortunately.
After spending the weekend staying in centro, THC and I both took rooms at Hotel Bernini which is a couple of blocks off Chapultapec, he negotiated a monthly rental at 11,000P and I got my room for 400P/night, which was a really good deal considering the listed price was almost double that. Despite the 1970's disco era interior, the rooms are nice: large, king size bed, sofa, coffee table, dining table and full kitchen.
Partying: Last Friday we hit up a sketchy strip club in centro near my hotel, no cover and beers were 50P, immediately after sitting down we each had strippers on our laps shoving their tits in our faces and grabbing our cocks. Having been in some shitty situations in third world strip clubs I figured we'd get charged for this, so I told the strippers we didn't want them around and that we were just having a beer. We watched the ugly strippers do their thing, rather unimpressed with the talent, we had a couple of beers then bounced, on the way out I had the bright idea to ask the doorman whether or not he could get us some blow. He looked at me as if he thought "does a bear shit in the woods?" Two minutes and 300 pesos later, I had a gram of booger sugar in hand, I kind of feel bad for introducing a friend to hard drugs but THC was down for doing blow for the first time, so out came the hotel key and the sniffing began. After getting ripped on the gear we decided to hit up a club called Lola Lolitas.
Lolitas is a small but nice club frequented by an upper class crowd and it was packed around midnight, we were searched upon entrance and I headed straight for the bar, I turned around and THC is already making out with a cute girl, at 20 seconds after entering, it was probably one of the quickest make outs I've ever witnessed, good job THC. She had a friend and 20nation quickly pounced on her, I proceeded to order three shots of tequila which came to 260P (about $20 USD), I thought tequila would be cheap here in Jalisco, but these are standard prices at this club. We ended up bouncing after 20nation saw one of his chicas there, I guess he didn't want to stay for whatever reason, so we hit up another club. I can't remember the name of the place but it seemed decent but when we got upstairs to the main dance floor area, we saw that it was a bit of a chorizo party that night. I grabbed a beer and sat down with 20nation, THC decided to go straight for a girl on the dance floor and ended up dancing with her for awhile. I thought that 20nation was gonna pass out as he looked tired then next thing I know, he's grinding on a decent looking girl with a big ass. After a couple of beers I ended up leaving as I saw no prospects and it was after 2am so I called it quits, the guys partied a bit more and got some numbers but no bangs.
Basically we've gone out a couple of more times, nothing too exciting, although I will mention that Lola Lolitas is bumping on Wednesday nights, which is ladies night when the chicas drink for free until midnight. Lots of dancing, some make outs and numbers, THC even took a girl home but the LMR was so intense that he kicked her out. The ratios at the clubs and bars haven't been great either, it seems like its similar to Colombia here where girls go out with groups of guys. Still, if you're a good looking white guy you'll have no problems meeting quality girls as 20nation and THC have been doing, myself I've met a couple and got a number that led nowhere. One girl I started dancing with at Lolitas was keen until she asked me what I was doing in GDL, after telling her that I'm only here for couple of weeks, she quickly left me hanging on the dance floor, I'll have to lie next time haha.
We hit up a super dodgy after hours one night in centro, I wasn't entirely comfortable being there as it was sketchy as fuck, there were a few okay looking women there who of course were hookers. At one point a guy said to 20nation that we shouldn't be there, its not a safe place for Gringos, THC seemed oblivious to this, enjoying the Mexican music and the cute whore sitting on his lap. Having spent so much time in the relative safety of SE Asia, I think THC is finally realizing that its very different in Latin America and dodgy whore houses aren't the best places to be at 6am. We ended up dancing with some skanks but didn't leave with any as they all wanted money, as most of us on here know, shoring isn't common in LA as it is in SE Asia.
My bang: I got this through pipelining, which I didn't do much of but this girl was my most solid lead. I wish I had done more internet game but I really can't stand it, especially in Spanish, I find it really annoying. So I met up with this girl on a Sunday afternoon in Chapultapec, I was severly hung over from the night before and straight up told her this, we had a coffee and chatted. I was having a hard time with my Spanish and the hang over didn't help, the girl was pretty cool though and took me to pharmacy to get some Aspirin. We walked around a bit then I suggested we take a taxi to centro and get something to eat, knowing we'd be close to my hotel. She paid for the taxi and chipped in on the meal, which was cool, we had a smoke outside the restaurant and after that I kissed her and we had a brief make out session, it wasn't too hard to convince her to go to my hotel to "relax and watch TV". We made out some more, she put up some LMR for about 30-45 minutes but in the end I got the bang, wasn't the best sex ever and honestly she wasn't the hottest girl ever, I'll give her a 5, she could be a 6 if she lost about 10 lbs, oh well, got the flag outta the way!
Restaurants/bars: Plenty of places along Chapultapec and that's pretty much the only place we've been going, they're busy on the weekends and after office hours. One place I've hit up a couple of times is called Wings Army, not very Mexican but the place is packed around 1700-2000 with a young crowd and pretty waitresses, including two who have huge asses. For more authentic Mexican, we've been hitting up a place called La Gorda, prices for a decent meal range from 40-80P. Other than that we've been eating at some street meat places where the tacos are tasty and cheap.
Quality of women: Jalisco has the reputation of having some of the most attractive women in all of Mexico, despite my initial observation of the fugly girls in centro, I now see how this could be true as I've seen some pretty hot women out at night and during the day in Chapultapec. There's some very light skinned women who most would consider to be a classic Latina beauty and the darker ones are pretty hot too, although there isn't as much variety as I've observed in Colombia (no black girls here). Despite my easy bang, I think the girls tend to be a bit on the conservative side, similar to Colombia in that they likely take a couple of dates to bang, this definitely isn't SE Asia. The girls seem horny enough and of course like dancing and make outs are easy to come by but from what we've seen so far, they aren't keen on leaving with a random guy in front of their friends. All of the girls we've approached so far have been really friendly, some even speak English fairly well although I wouldn't count on it, which brings me to my next point....
Spanish language skills: I'd say its almost essential to speak at least conversational Spanish here, its been a year since I've spoke Spanish (my last trip to Colombia) and I'm so rusty that its hurting me and I'm less confident in my approaches. THC didn't speak any Spanish at all (although he's catching on quick) and its hurting him in his success with the local ladies, although he's getting LOTS of attention (stares, smiles, dancing, make outs, etc) the lack of language skills is his only handicap. 20nation is doing very well in GDL, he literally has a harem here after living here for the past two months, I've met two of his regulars and they're hot girls in their early twenties, once of them is actually quite wealthy (has her own car, a really nice one). He's also doing well with night game which is in large part due to his good Spanish skills.
GDL overall: I really like this city, I'll write some more about it later but I would definitely recommend it as a place to come and stay for a month or more, I could see myself setting up shop here as 20nation and THC have done, maybe study Spanish here and definitely date the local women. I don't think its a great destination to pass through for a few days and expect to get quality bangs, especially if your Spanish isn't great.
Anyway, I'm on my way to Puerto Vallarta tomorrow, taking the four hour bus, its a big weekend, Mexican Independence day, so it should be a good time. If any of you have any tips or information about PV, I definitely welcome it, I've been doing a bit of research and will likely stay in the Malecon area.
Adios amigos!
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