[Fallfromgrace]

Hello people.

I'm a 19 year-old reforming beta who is currently waiting for college to start. Been an avid reader of game and been lurking for the past year or so but finally I think it's about time I get off my lazy ass and actually join the club for real.

The thing is, despite reading so much from Chateau Heartiste, Krauser, Neil Strauss and the likes, I am still at a lost as to where to start. I have trouble absorbing everything and I know that reading is as it is, simply reading. I have to approach sooner or later, but then again, I don't know how to start.

I'm still trying to get over a 2-year long case of oneitis. Mainly not so much because of the girl, but rather for my ego. When I did not have a single clue about game at all (I was raised by a single mother which did nothing for me but turned me beta as fuck as I used to put women on a pedestal, people-pleasing and other shit) I fell in love with this girl and tried to chase her, failing terribly and making a mockery of myself. What I did probably went against every fundamental of game and commandment of poon that I cringe at my pathetic past. I used to think she was out of my league, stare at her a lot, talk to her too much and told her my honest feelings a few months later only to get rejected (I guess I definitely deserved it).

I only discovered the Game community a year ago and I think this is a great community of extremely intelligent and like-minded people who want to help each other on the path of self-improvement. I really wish I can fix my past by successfully going back and start gaming that chick again now but I doubt it's possible after fucking up so hard isn't it? Sometimes I just want to move on on this journey of Game like the forums say, that more pussy is the cure of all oneitis problems. But really, my ego will never forgive me for being so fucking beta.

I really wish to improve myself and my game, I am now lifting regularly and am well-cut, making sure I am impeccably dressed always and at least the alpha male in more than one circle of friends but with zero to no experience and a ton of beta/past ghosts haunting me, I always feel like I still have many creases to iron out. Sometimes I wish a mentor or fellow reformed beta could share some experiences for me to learn from and help me along the way so that I can become a better man, not just to get pussy, but for myself.

[Lethal]

(09-04-2013 07:48 AM)Fallfromgrace Wrote:  

Hello people.

I'm a 19 year-old reforming beta who is currently waiting for college to start. Been an avid reader of game and been lurking for the past year or so but finally I think it's about time I get off my lazy ass and actually join the club for real.

The thing is, despite reading so much from Chateau Heartiste, Krauser, Neil Strauss and the likes, I am still at a lost as to where to start. I have trouble absorbing everything and I know that reading is as it is, simply reading. I have to approach sooner or later, but then again, I don't know how to start.

I'm still trying to get over a 2-year long case of oneitis. Mainly not so much because of the girl, but rather for my ego. When I did not have a single clue about game at all (I was raised by a single mother which did nothing for me but turned me beta as fuck as I used to put women on a pedestal, people-pleasing and other shit) I fell in love with this girl and tried to chase her, failing terribly and making a mockery of myself. What I did probably went against every fundamental of game and commandment of poon that I cringe at my pathetic past. I used to think she was out of my league, stare at her a lot, talk to her too much and told her my honest feelings a few months later only to get rejected (I guess I definitely deserved it).

I really wish I can fix my past by successfully going back and start gaming that chick again now but I doubt it's possible after fucking up so hard isn't it? Sometimes I just want to move on on this journey of Game like the forums say, that more pussy is the cure of all oneitis problems. But really, my ego will never forgive me for being so fucking beta.

I really wish to improve myself and my game, I am now lifting regularly and am well-cut, making sure I am impeccably dressed always and at least the alpha male in more than one circle of friends but with zero to no experience and a ton of beta/past ghosts haunting me, I always feel like I still have many creases to iron out. Sometimes I wish a mentor or fellow reformed beta could share some experiences for me to learn from and help me along the wag to becoming a better man, not just to get pussy, but for myself.

You gotta start somewhere bro. I just joined the forum even though I've been reading this place for months. At least you realize what you need to do. And there's plenty of time since your still in College. I'm only in 10th grade lol, but I've been a Beta who has taken sht from people all my life. I finally got tired of taking crap, and I joined this forum. I understand the struggle of a single mom... it was hard for me. Now I can successfully say I have gone from a nerd/beta in middle school... to Quarterback of my High School Football team. It took alot of work, on top of all the physical exercise and workouts. Lol I was so beta and bad at game that I used to ask girls if they were single... haha so bad. We all have those bad memories just try to laugh at them and you will get over it.

Just keep doing what your doing if it's working.

[el duderino]

Once you stary meeting and banging more girls in college and once youre outta college the oneitis goes away on its own. I had it bad in hs...but it disappeara incollege quite easily. If you keep doing what youre doing youll be fine, and it is possible the oneitis girl will come after you at some point. Then you can choose to ignore it or just hit it and quit it.

It is also possible and in fact highly likely that she gets fat in college from too much booze and dick.

The simple fact that you unplugged, realized what was going on, and worked to change means you are heading in the right direction

[Onto]

You're fortunate to have found this forum. While all the reading and advice is very helpful, you also need to accept you're only 19 years old and the wisdom of the elders really does come from age and experience. So don't get upset and down if you're not at the level of manhood you want to be. That is a life-long journey. The first step is recognizing you're not, and you're already way past that, and making great strides on the path.

My two cents are:

1) Try not to take yourself, the others, and the world too seriously. Most suffering comes from us taking ourselves, and our demands that life be a certain way very seriously. For example, look at that broad you're all busted up about. Look how serious you take her to be, how serious it is that she like you and if it doesn't happen, well....that's very serious!.

It's good you want to develop yourself to be the best man you can for your short stay on this earth. When you're successful with that, girls will pick up on the scent and want that masculinity because it's what they lack. So stop romanticizing the past with that girl and making her out to be the infinite. Trust me, her feet are made of clay, if you want to see them. That aside, once you've banged something new, you will look back and laugh at yourself and wonder, "Why the hell was I so seroius about all that?" I've been there, we've all been there, but saying it won't make it happen. Only you going forward in life instead of staying stuck in the past will make it happen.

2) Don't every get married in a country where the laws punish the man. It is so important to research the laws well beforehand and stay up to date on them. They should replace SexEd in High School with a course in Family Law.

[tylerdurden1993]

my advice for you is don't read too much theory because youll start to overcomplicate things especially with the amount of material out there. My second piece of advice is to start doing approaches whether day/night game and try to get numbers and follow on from there, because thre is no point in reading tonnes of theory if you're not going to put in the hours of practice needed

[eradicator]

All of this is well and good(make approaches) but you still need to work on your inner game, your social skills(if you are just heading out to college for the first time, it's a good time to reinvent yourself) as well as physically. You may want to make use of your school's gym, but first you may want to actually take a class on weightlifting to figure out what to work on and make sure you are using the equipment properly, otherwise you could do more harm than good.

Also, you will want to improve your wardrobe to figure out what clothes look good on you.

Once you have improved your game, your looks, your social skills, then it could be a good idea to start doing cold approaches. But even before you do that, you will want to get in the habit of being a good conversationalist by greeting people, really everyone, you encounter on your daily life( you start by saying "hello" to people, not just women, but everyone and you will get better at talking to people and having conversations).

You asked where to start, this should hopefully get you on the right track. Eventually you will want to start approaching any girl that gets your dick hard, get their phone number, get them on a date and bring them home and fuck them.

[Christian McQueen]

As 'hard' as it seems, the only real solution is for you to get out there and hit it hard.

If you want to play baseball, you don't play MLB13; you get to the batting cages.

You want to get over your beta ways and get fresh pussy, then start approaching. Read Roosh's Day Bang and Bang. It's practical advice that you can apply and use ASAP.

Good luck.

[Fallfromgrace]

Thanks for the kind words guys, especially Onto, what you said there really hit home. I have been taking things too seriously like you pointed out.

Guess it's time I said fuck it and just get into the fray. I've been taking master_thespian's advice and making a conscious effort to talking to almost everyone that I meet on my way when I'm outside.

I realised two things: my body language is weak at best and I feel I sometimes lack the charisma to hold a person's full attention during conversation (she looks at her phone and there are pauses from time to time). I know in my head the things I should do, but in real-time there just so many things to look out for at once I just forget. It's not like I can video myself talking to girls and remedy it or something, can I?

Secondly, it's extremely hard approaching sets of people. Especially alone. Or maybe I'm just not used to it yet. I was rolling solo and talking to a group of 2 girls and 2 guys at the smoking corner of a nightclub. How do you keep and manage everyone's attention on you at once? And should you want to be accepted into the group? Or should you make up an excuse to leave and come back again later.