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When is it Time to Step Your Game Up?
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When is it Time to Step Your Game Up?

The question I have for the moment is when is it time to step your game up?

I'm not asking because I need to know the answer, I'm doing so because it's a question that you need to ask yourself.

Before I continue, this isn't a discussion that should be had that leads to the "drop everything, sell all your shit, and move to Eastern Europe for the submissive dime you've always dreamed of."

Most of us that are in this community are in the good ol' U.S.A. and we'll never touch down in the Ukraine or any other FSU nations, and it will be because of choice, just as those who do desire that, have already been there, are there at present, or making plans to be there, by choice.

But ultimately, everyone doesn't want to live somewhere else, they want to be right here, so they have to game here, so stop with the American women sucks shit, because if they are that bad, then hop on a plane. But I think we should stop looking at them for a moment, and starting looking at ourselves.

Are you really satisfied with your level of game?

Are you really satisfied with who you are as a man?

A lot of advice that I see here is tailored towards how to deal with girls' bullshit.

The best advice is: don't.

Look, this game isn't for everybody. There are quality women out there, but unfortunately, they're not all in the package that we may "dream" of, all of them aren't even available. Some of the packages that some men want are, for them, entirely unrealistic. The imperfect searching for perfection from the imperfect.

Are there submissive, loving dimes out there?

Sure there are. Are there enough for all of us to be satisfied?

No.

You want a top notch woman?

You have to be a top notch man.

If you're average, then that's what you'll get.

If you're below average, then that's what you'll get.

Accept that.

Some of us do want better, and we are high quality, but we're frustrated because we're wasting our time dealing with low-quality women. Even if a woman is attractive, her looks alone can't save her from being low-quality.

A lot of these "cute" chicks who are flaking on you, playing games, shit-testing, etc. they're ALL doing you a favor. They're all telling you "I"m not worth your time." The problem is you can't get the past the pussy to hear it.

It is imperative that you identify low-quality women immediately, and move on from them so you don't invest anything in them, then you won't have anything to be sour about when they show you they're not worth shit.

Some of us here are truly players. We're in, out, and on to the next one. But the players in this community, the real ones, the ones who will let a chick go, because the next pussy is a phone call away, the ones who will kick a girl out of his house if she's not acting right, are an uber minority.

Most dudes, if they met the right girl for them, would be done looking for prospects. I don't advocate that, at least not until the girl has proven she's down for you, to the point that she has made you feel that she's a friend and lover like you've never had, and she's willing to go above and beyond to meet your needs, and that she's done so over an extended period of time. But that's where most are, they just want a cool chick who satisfies whatever their needs are, and the only ones who have really been honest with themselves about that are the herbs you see with chicks on their arms and wonder "damn how did he get that?"

I mean shit, this community is full of "alphas" who are watching Xhamster on Friday night while these dudes who can't even keep a merengue rhythm have girls holding them tight, grinding on them, making out with them in the middle of the dance floor, and smiling like there's no other place they rather be.

Those who don't have to jack off, have fuck buddies, but let's be honest about your fuck buddies. These women have no value to you other than hands-free masturbation. If you're a low-quality dude who doesn't really have anything to offer, then whatever, fuck them forever because you can't do better anyway. But if you're a better man than that, why are you continuing to fuck bitches who you don't want anything of value with?

A fuck buddy is just that, a fuck buddy. She has already proven to you that she's not capable of being more to you, and I don't mean more like a girlfriend or whatever, I hate titles, but she's not a chick you'd want to talk to about shit, she's not a chick who you'd want to go with you to something that matters to you and that you'd be willing to share the time with. She's just someone you're willing to sweat for and give orgasms to so you can bust a nut without having to use your own hand.

The fuck?

In my case, girls that were just fuck buddies, I didn't even cum for them. Why give them the satisfaction of believing that they pleased me? Then I asked myself, but wait, why am I pleasing them? Why am I giving a girl who I wouldn't even want to buy a jamba juice for multiple orgasms?

Why am I here at all?

Most of your fuck buddies are chicks you should let go, and spend whatever few hours you do fucking them, doing something else. Whether you realize it or not, as you continue to share your body with them, you are killing your self-esteem, because you know that what you have is what you don't want, and what you do you want, you can't and don't have.

This is eating you up and making you angry.

But you're either going to keep fucking them and at the same time hating them, which is really you re-directing your hate/anger because you're actually mad at yourself, or you're going to step your game up and obtain what you really want.

Whatever your situation is, you have to ask yourself, is it time to step my game up?

I'm talking beyond, "hit the gym, get your money up, dress better" all things that one should aspire to do, but this is deeper than that. If you want better quality women, you can start by changing your perspective.

That doesn't mean your lower your standards.

It means stop thinking all American women are lost causes. Stop thinking that you should be able to get a dime because you read Roosh's books, even though you are a nickel. Be honest with yourself about what you want from women, and keep a vow to yourself that you will shun those who can't give those things to you. Be honest with yourself about whether or not you are being the best man that you can possibly be.

If you take conscious steps to be better yourself, and make a conscious effort to actualy surround yourself with better, chances are, you'll be happier with yourself and the results, but it starts with recognizing that the time to step your game up has arrived.
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When is it Time to Step Your Game Up?

True words
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When is it Time to Step Your Game Up?

Lot's of truth, but ultimately maybe I'm a pessimist, although I say "pragmatist", but life isn't fair, some guys are naturally going to have all the right "tools" to excel at the game, while others will struggle to improve their lot at all. Most of us fall closer to the average end of the spectrum and while we can work hard to better ourselves, there will probably always be a "ceiling" for how far we can take our success with women. A lot of guys may say I have a defeatist attitude or that I'm being a hater or game denialist, but the truth is the truth.

Personally I am working hard to step my game up, by going out more, approaching more, being more social, hitting the gym, dressing right, eating right, etc., yet I still struggle with the top tier women. Over the past month I have pretty much been exclusively stepping to women in the 7-9 range, usually going for "eights" , and my approaches have been hooking well, I've been getting extended conversations, make outs, numbers, etc., but the vast majority of them flake out and don't even respond to my texts.

Chalk this up to weak game or whatever, but as far as I see it, higher caliber women require a higher level of game, looks, lifestyle, etc. They have tons of options, which make them that much flakier and harder to "lock down." Meanwhile I have sixes practically throwing themselves at me, which creates a conundrum of whether I should shoot for the top and what I desire and often come up short, or go for the sure thing, which will result in sex.

I get what you're saying about the guy who has "fuck buddies" who he's not crazy about because I'm pretty much in that situation, but I still like having sex, especially easy sex that doesn't require a lot of effort or investment and prefer it to dry spells and incessant masturbating on the internet.

Any how before I ramble I want to say one last thing, all a guy can really do is continue to work hard, persevere, and try his best, and not give up. Game, getting good with women, getting into the best possible physical shape, improving your looks, improving your lifestyle, it's not going to happen over night, and even after years of hard work, if you aren't exactly "blessed" and start off as a 5 in looks, chances are you're never going to reach a point where you can consistently pull 8's and 9's, despite what every PUA will tell you. Guys who are at that elite level, most of them have been blessed and have the right "tools" to be successful, if you are 6 ft. 4 in., naturally built, and have male model looks you'll never understand how hard it is for the average guy to do, what you can do with ease.
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When is it Time to Step Your Game Up?

Yesterday.
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#5

When is it Time to Step Your Game Up?

When you ask that question.
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When is it Time to Step Your Game Up?

Quote: (09-04-2013 02:04 AM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

I get what you're saying about the guy who has "fuck buddies" who he's not crazy about because I'm pretty much in that situation, but I still like having sex, especially easy sex that doesn't require a lot of effort or investment and prefer it to dry spells and incessant masturbating on the internet.

I agree with you, I love easy, casual sex without investing much as well, but my question to you is, when do you think it's time to hit the eject button on a particular fuck buddy?

I know a dude who's had the same fuck buddy for 3 years. That's ridiculous. Shit, that's longer than some marriages. All that time fucking someone who he doesn't have anything of value with, when over any period of that time he could have been fucking someone else who actually provides value to him.

Pussy isn't value, it's entertainment.

The longer it goes on, what do you think the girl starts to think?

Every relationship has 3 relationships:

1. The one you think you're having.

2. The one she thinks you're having.

3. The one you're actually having.

You can fuck a girl for X period of time, but at some point, she doesn't really see herself as the fuck buddy anymore. She actually starts to think you like her, even if you do still just pop in on Saturdays after you've hit the club, and maybe you're the reason things haven't gone forward.
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When is it Time to Step Your Game Up?

I like the idea of cutting girls that give no value to me.

Maybe it really is a good thing if she flakes. That way she filters herself for you.
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#8

When is it Time to Step Your Game Up?

When isn't it time to step your game up?

Wald
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When is it Time to Step Your Game Up?

Interesting question..

I like these answers:

Quote: (09-04-2013 09:09 PM)lurker Wrote:  

Yesterday.

Quote: (09-04-2013 09:21 PM)Blaze Frazier Wrote:  

When you ask that question.

Quote: (09-05-2013 03:27 PM)Walderschmidt Wrote:  

When isn't it time to step your game up?

The only thing I can add is this...

The time to step up your game is when you are sick and tired of having shitty game. When your shitty game is literally causing a negative emotional reaction, that is when you must step up your game.

Otherwise, you will continue to slide into the emotionally toxic hell hole of being a loser.

Don't let it overcome you, take action against it!
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