[bodmon]

let me give you an example.

- I get a girl's # off okcupid on a Thursday
- On Saturday or so I suggest a meet up sometime on Mon-Wed
- Girl says she can't due to some major research project she's working on
- I say ok cool, I understand, I'll ask again in a few days
- She appreciates this, and things are okay over text, with very good response times from her
- On Friday I propose a meet up on Sunday or Tuesday
- She says she's going camping on the weekend, but will be back on Sunday, and so Sunday evening's good
- I tease her, wondering whether she'll bring her A-Game on Sunday after the trip; she says she definitely will
- I confirm the location (so and so intersection) and time (830pm) at 3pm on the Sunday
- At 835pm she sends a single text saying that her phone had died while camping
- Seems fishy; I log in on okcupid and she's online
- Angered, I text "Whatever. Take care" and get no reply after that

so I tolerated one flake (legit or not), but did not tolerate a second. how many will you tolerate before you next a girl? will you keep going until you get radio silence? or do you have a set limit?

i'm guessing if the girl were hotter, I probably would have played it off like it was nothing ("oh yeah, didn't hear from you so I made other plans... went and did [so and so cool activity]"), and tried once more. but I dunno.

[Virtus]

nothing to do. You seem too available. You may not reopen because you shown to be affected. Girls flake as a test. So double book

[Aliblahba]

I'm ok with a girl rescheduling as long as her excuse is legit. Random drama or bullshit 1st world problems don't count. The stronger your frame the less chance she will want to bail. It also means you will have a rotation of girls waiting for a slot in your busy schedule, so if one bails, pencil another one in.

[bodmon]

(08-30-2013 01:05 PM)calihunter Wrote:  

You seem too available. You may not reopen because you shown to be affected.

both true, I won't deny in this exchange, but in the end I don't think they matter as much as that she just had other options.

[Parlay44]

It's up to her to make it right. If she doesn't offer up a rain check cut her loose. Parlay ain't got time for no princess bitches.

[tylerdurden1993]

the hardest part of online dating is getting the girl out in the first place after that it gets a lot easier if you have basic game, so if you're chatting to a girl and you invite her out for a date and she flakes, but still remains in contact with you, its a natural reaction to seem "too available" which turns them off, its the old scarcity mentality and unfortunately with online dating the odds are stacked against you for many reasons

[ElBorrachoInfamoso]

What Parlay said. Unless she offers to reschedule, she's not serious about getting your dick wet, forget her.

[Capitán Peligroso]

Quote:

Angered, I text "Whatever. Take care" and get no reply after that

You projected caring asshole here, when you should be projecting uncaring asshole with lots of other choices. One of my rules of thumb, never text when you're mad, it's always better to wait and project indifference.

[Parlay44]

(08-30-2013 06:03 PM)Capitán Peligroso Wrote:  

Quote:

Angered, I text "Whatever. Take care" and get no reply after that

You projected caring asshole here, when you should be projecting uncaring asshole with lots of other choices. One of my rules of thumb, never text when you're mad, it's always better to wait and project indifference.

Yup. Women read emotions not logic. Indifference throws them for a loop.

[WestIndianArchie]

There aren't really enough details here to give a full diagnosis and suggest a complete course of action. You new jacks need to learn how to write up your encounters.

That being said, my off the cuff analysis

1. You're way too invested.

I get that you really want to slam your dick up in this chick, and her flaking out means you don't even get a chance to swing your bat at her pitches.

But that rage isn't helping you

2. Flaky young hot chick - this is the nature of the beast.

Women, regardless of age, are rarely held accountable. The woman who is late and flakes is the norm, especially the younger and hotter she is.

From her perspective, you're
- one option of many
- you haven't invested that much, so if she felt anything - which she doesn't, she doesn't feel like she's wronged you by flaking

3. and you met her off the internet?

I'm not gonna deny you young bucks your new toys - but if you want to get good at game, and fuck more often - you need to be out at the bars, clubs, book stores, coffee shops, et cetera and meeting people in real time and real space. Without a true foundation of how to assess a target, open a target, and run a conversation and escalate - a lot of your internet dates are going to be wasted.


The solution?

The scenario is you make definite plans with some broad online.

Now instead of you
- showering up
- putting on your date clothes
- throwing on the cologne
- stocking the fridge with 2 buck Chuck from Trader' joes
- arranging the toilet paper in a cool pyramid for when she needs to use the loo after fucking her for 89 minutes
- detailing your car

and then calling her from your couch at home as you sit there in some unbroken in hardbottom shoes that you wear as a part of "suiting up"

You do everything above with 1 minor tweak

You do it from your home away from home, your seat of power, the round table, the bat cave -

You do it from your favorite venue that has your friends, good food, good liquor, and lots of women.

This is the kind of place that you can spend all day, or all night in.

So while you're at Honkers partaking in a nice low carb meal, while watching the game with friends, and eyeing girls that come in the door - that's when you do your call and confirm.

Since you are making the decisions about day 2, you control the battle field.

The meet?
- if you pick her up- you leave from here - you're place of power.
- if she picks you up - guess where you're gonna meet?
- if you're gonna meet someplace central - Where do you think that is?

And when they flake, believe me they will continue to flake, you're in a place you want to be, you're dressed up, you're hungry for action.

The next level of this anti-flake defense is bringing a girl into your world, not stopping your world to enter hers.

So whatever activity that you plan to do with a chick is one that you planned to do all along.

If she flakes, you're still doing what you want to do.

WIA

[Sonsowey]

You have to decide this on your own.

Some people believe that if girls flake on you it's a sign they're not into you. If you were George Clooney, they wouldn't be flaking, they'd find a way to hang out.

But you're not George Clooney, and frankly they may still want to fuck you at another time. Sometimes I've been texting girls on and off for months without them coming through, then one day, they come through, and it's an easy bang.

Really in that case, they're just using you for dick at their own convenience. Fine by me.

[reaper23]

just say ok.

remember, there are no big deals

if she flakes just wait a while and restart or see if she contacts you

otherwise move on to the next woman

[Lethal]

I might do the same as you did. Maybe one or two flakes... not very many. I'm new to this so I probably don't have the best idea... but in High School girls flake like crazy. West Indian is telling it how it is... you need to take the game away from the internet.