[midknight]

I'm an Asian-American guy and have DEFINITELY realized one thing over the years: I attract women at an INCREDIBLY higher rate outside of the United States, United Kingdom, and Australia.

I experienced this in Europe most of all where I was able to lay French, German, Italian, and Austrian girls without even trying very hard.

Basically, half the work was already done for me as they found me instantly attractive, and all I had to do was just not mess it up. Eastern European girls were even EASIER.

In terms of looks, I'm 6'1", dress pretty sharp in a Euro-style, speak multiple languages, and am financially well-off. I'm sure this also helped set myself apart from all the backpacking Americans in baggy J.Crew/Gap clothes living out of hostels.

I'd be interested to hear other Asian-American guys' experiences on this topic as I'm now looking at a place to base myself out of "forever." This decision was made easier by looking at all the American women in my area act like men, have saggy asses, and strut around like prizes when they can't even hold a candle to the European girls I've dated and who were CRAZY about me.

Some places I'm considering are Prague, Lausanne/Geneva (if I can make more money), and Vienna. I'm trying to find a nice balance between hot women in a cool, cosmopolitan, and vibrant environment. Eastern European babes are HOT without a doubt, but I don't want to live in a totally grey, bland post-Soviet city just to get some ass.

Thanks.

[OSL]

Hey, welcome to the forum.

There is one, or several, threads about this. One I can immediately think of is "Asian American Guy Travel Ratings."

I did a Lithuania, Finland, and Estonia trip last winter that was based on a suggestion of a cool dude I met on a diff forum. Your comments overall seem correct, although the positive reaction from the women was met by a similarly negative reaction from dudes in these post soviet countries.

[Badstuber]

Thing is that many EU girls are into this 'anime' stuff and are obsessed with Japan/Korea.

[DonovanVC]

I like reading this stuff. Even though I am not Asian. (I am south asian american). Its funny how the negative asian stereotype is so prevalent in the common law/anglo countries, wtf is up with that? I grew up around some pretty cool asian dudes in southern cali and lived in Japan where I met a lot of cool dudes who were good looking guys and got ass on the reg.

If I were of Asian descent, I would also try some Hispanic countries. Also don't sleep on Asia itself. Asian girls, IMO, were way hotter in Japan and Taiwan than they were in the US, and nicer, cuter, more feminine and quicker to fuck. I noticed Asian-American guys doing some serious damage out in Japan, cuz ur the best of both worlds in those girls' eyes.

[Whoremonger]

Good god bro. Has nothing to do with your race. Everyone does better in Eastern Europe. Fact.

http://www.happierabroad.com/

This fat little asian thought he was in heaven

[OSL]

I am very into Latin women and can speak some Spanish so LA is definitely on my to-do list.

Panama and Chile in particular are interesting to me, although I have no idea what the women are like.

[genjuro]

I'm Asian. My own experience is similar : when I was in Eastern Europe, South America and of course Asia LOL, it was just much much easier to get girls than in Canada.


I'm also looking for a new job now : in Europe or in Brasil.

[OSL]

Any Asian guys here able to comment on their South America experiences?

SA glorifies the White man so I'm not sure it would necessarily be good for the Asian guy.

[Vacancier Permanent]

(10-11-2010 01:22 PM)genjuro Wrote:  

I'm Asian. My own experience is similar : when I was in Eastern Europe, South America and of course Asia LOL, it was just much much easier to get girls than in Canada.


I'm also looking for a new job now : in Europe or in Brasil.

What types of jobs are you looking for? Do you speak fluent portuguese to stand a chance of getting a job in Brasil? Are you looking for low education/entry level/service/travel&tourism industry? If yes, are you willing to work crazy long hours for Brasilian minimum wage (which is like 500R/month)? Or are you looking at a more professional career type of job? If yes, your best and probably only option is to go through a multinational in your country which has offices in Brasil and for them to get you the work permit as otherwise, it's next to impossible to obtain. Only other way to find a good job in Brasil is if you have a permanent residency there and speak the lingo fluently. But if you're just looking to get a or any job to pay your way through your travels in Brasil/SA, then you might pick up a waiter job here and there working crazy long hours making peanuts. Or you could also teach English for up to 6 months under the table, that's prolly your best and only shot at a non minimal job in an office in Brasil. Whatever you do, all the best and keep us updated on how it goes.

I'm not trying to be a dick nor to discourage you, but Brasil is not a country to work, unless you have very specific and highly sought after skills. It's more a country to have fun and spend money. Make your money elsewhere and party like there's no tomorrow in Brasil. Or if you have a a web biz, then that'd be the ideal scenario to have the time of your life in Brasil.

Cheers.

[Vacancier Permanent]

(10-10-2010 05:18 AM)Whoremonger Wrote:  

Good god bro. Has nothing to do with your race. Everyone does better in Eastern Europe. Fact.

http://www.happierabroad.com/

This fat little asian thought he was in heaven

That's a cool little site. I've had some good funny reads there.

Thanks for sharing that little gem.

Cheers.

[Vacancier Permanent]

(10-11-2010 03:19 AM)youngmobileglobal Wrote:  

I am very into Latin women and can speak some Spanish so LA is definitely on my to-do list.

Panama and Chile in particular are interesting to me, although I have no idea what the women are like.

YMG,
From what I've been hearing, Chile is terrible when it comes to women. Very plain looking unfashionable white chicks. Very far from the sexy, sensual, fun and easy going Brasileiras or the nice face big boobies of Colombianas. It's also one of the most expensive countries in LA. It's referred by a lot of people as the expensive version of Argentina yet without the charms of Argentina.
For business, it might be a good place tough as the Chilean economy has been one of the strongest of all LA for a little while.

As to Panama, can't really say anything there other than they speak English and the exotic latin flavour, form what I have heard is not widely present.

Peru would be a good place for its cost of living and ease of hooking up with non pro locals and reasonable options for biz opportunities. Colombia is crazy good for the girls. Another good place that's not mentioned a lot in here is Uruguay: first world amenities, very safe environment, relatively cheap and nice looking girls. One american man I know who lived there told me he saw the most beautiful girls in the world there, specially in Montevideo and Punta del Este, the major beach resort there. But the best IMO in LA is Brasil, but that's just me. IMO, no country in the world can match let alone beat Brasil in the women department there. Don't even get me started on that...LOL BUsiness is booming like you won't believe it there so this is a great place to be for business and they finally seem to get things right. So my top choice in all of LA is by far Brasil. But that's just me as I am fairly familiar with the place, been there countless times and speak the lingo fluently and have some solid local contacts. YMMV as usual.

[genjuro]

(10-12-2010 12:00 AM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

What types of jobs are you looking for? Do you speak fluent portuguese to stand a chance of getting a job in Brasil? Are you looking for low education/entry level/service/travel&tourism industry? If yes, are you willing to work crazy long hours for Brasilian minimum wage (which is like 500R/month)? Or are you looking at a more professional career type of job? If yes, your best and probably only option is to go through a multinational in your country which has offices in Brasil and for them to get you the work permit as otherwise, it's next to impossible to obtain. Only other way to find a good job in Brasil is if you have a permanent residency there and speak the lingo fluently. But if you're just looking to get a or any job to pay your way through your travels in Brasil/SA, then you might pick up a waiter job here and there working crazy long hours making peanuts. Or you could also teach English for up to 6 months under the table, that's prolly your best and only shot at a non minimal job in an office in Brasil. Whatever you do, all the best and keep us updated on how it goes.

I'm not trying to be a dick nor to discourage you, but Brasil is not a country to work, unless you have very specific and highly sought after skills. It's more a country to have fun and spend money. Make your money elsewhere and party like there's no tomorrow in Brasil. Or if you have a a web biz, then that'd be the ideal scenario to have the time of your life in Brasil.

Cheers.

Dude, thanks a lot for your suggestions! Really appreciate it.

I'm a software developer working in financial industry, for a multinational corporation. Yes, my company has branches over there in Europe and Brasil. There are internal job openings in those countries which I can apply for. My client in the last 5 years is a multinational brokerage firm. There are opportunites for me to become their employee and relocate to London or Sao Paolo.

To me, I'm a bit bored with North America, want to travel and live somewhere different, experience new things and of course meet nice girls. But just as the OP said, it's important to find a balance in life and I'm not gonna give up my career just to get some asses, lol.

[OSL]

I hear about Colombia and Brazil a lot in terms of both women and emerging business opportunities.

VP, I know you are not an Asian dude but do you have any idea how they would fare down there?

I assume looks and wealth are more important than race in general, although Whites are clearly at the top of the pecking order there.

[genjuro]

(10-11-2010 08:52 PM)youngmobileglobal Wrote:  

Any Asian guys here able to comment on their South America experiences?

SA glorifies the White man so I'm not sure it would necessarily be good for the Asian guy.

I went to South America twice : spent 1 month in Colombia and a few weeks in Peru to travel, also met some women from Ecuador. Colombianas are the sexiest/prettiest out of them by far. I definitely got a lot more attention from women in Colombia than in North America. They didn't have attitude and were curious about me and Asian culture. I found it not hard to ask a girl out and they are much more open sexually than Asian girls : they tend to enjoy sex and don't hide it, unlike some Asian girls who pretend they're "traditional", lol. I had good time with two nice and pretty Colombianas, very good person, good in bed and not gold diggers at all.


I'm 5'9'', speak a little Spanish, not really good at "game" as you guys call it. Not bad looking, actually I often get compliments from girls.

One thing, if you can dance, your chance in Colombia will be better, I think.
And if you speak the language, that will help your a lot.

[genjuro]

(10-12-2010 01:34 AM)youngmobileglobal Wrote:  

I assume looks and wealth are more important than race in general

It seems to be very true in most South American countries, i.e.
money and social status are more important than race, from my experience and what my friends who live in Brazil told me.

Somehow, race can make you at a significant advantange/disadvantange in certain places.

[midknight]

I'm also a software developer and my VP has signed off on me working remotely since it's already being done by several other members of my team. This makes me incredibly optimistic since I love my work, my company is growing rapidly, and I could see my future completely secured in 4-5 years with the stock options I am vesting right now.

For anyone who has lived in Europe for a long time now, would a "playboy" lifestyle be possible on a US income of approximately $110,000 per year? (and bonuses)? If so, in which countries?

[Vacancier Permanent]

(10-12-2010 01:30 AM)genjuro Wrote:  

Dude, thanks a lot for your suggestions! Really appreciate it.

I'm a software developer working in financial industry, for a multinational corporation. Yes, my company has branches over there in Europe and Brasil. There are internal job openings in those countries which I can apply for. My client in the last 5 years is a multinational brokerage firm. There are opportunites for me to become their employee and relocate to London or Sao Paolo.

To me, I'm a bit bored with North America, want to travel and live somewhere different, experience new things and of course meet nice girls. But just as the OP said, it's important to find a balance in life and I'm not gonna give up my career just to get some asses, lol.

Then that looks good for you. Between London and SP, that's a no brainer really. If you're sent there by your company and paid in US/Euros/Pounds in SP, then you'll be living a very sweet life there. Also, before you sign/agree to anything, make sure they help you and cover housing as that is expensive in SP. Also, are you married and or with kids? That'll be a major factor to consider as well. If you're married with kids, then I'd be prolly be asking them to send me not to SP but rather to a smaller city or other big city in Brasil such as Belo Horizonte or Curitiba or Goiania or Brasilia where it's a lot less hectic, crazy and to some extent dangerous than SP. If SP is the only option in Brasil then make sure they provide you with assistance in finding a nice place in a safer and wealthier area of SP (in the Morumbi, Jardim or Itaim Bibi areas preferably); that they assist you with putting your kids to a nice international school (which are quite expensive in Brasil) and other perks that will be vital for you but specially for your family to settle in a totally new environment where they prolly won't speak any portuguese nor know anyone. But if you're alone and single, then go for it but double check the contract and what it contains and anything less than 100K would be hard to pull it if you want a playboy lifestyle as SP is as if not more expensive than NYC to live in.

All the best and keep us updated and how it goes if you go to SP. I'm sure you'll have the time of your life and you won't want to come back!

Cheers.

[Vacancier Permanent]

(10-12-2010 01:34 AM)youngmobileglobal Wrote:  

I hear about Colombia and Brazil a lot in terms of both women and emerging business opportunities.

VP, I know you are not an Asian dude but do you have any idea how they would fare down there?

I assume looks and wealth are more important than race in general, although Whites are clearly at the top of the pecking order there.

You got that totally right that in Brasil and probably all over Latin America, status is king. It's all about status. Now, while status is huge, race also plays a major role there and while what I'm going to write may sound offending and provocative, it's totally true. No harm meant to anyone but this is just what I have noticed while there: whites, specially europeans ones are perceived to be and have higher status there; then the white north americans, then the Asians, specially Japanese and Chinese followed by the Blacks and finally the native Indians compose the order of the race food chain in Brasil.

As to your question YMG, Asians are at least in Brasil, not sure about the rest of SA, but in Brasil, they're respected and people are quite curious about them, specially the Japanese, Chinese and to some extent, the Korean ones. I guess if the guy is cool, interesting, not cheap and not too ugly or anti-social, then he should get decent to good action from the women in Brasil. Of course, being able to speak the lingo will catapult your chances with women to the stratosphere there, but that's a given anywhere, but even more so in Brasil.

[AJ]

Came back from SA this year

Went through 3 places: peru, bolivia, argentina.

I'm Asian 6' 185lbs athletic.

Peru. In general I found people staring at me as I was walking down the street. Sometimes it would be blatant and sometimes you'd catch them glancing just as they were passing. Went to a gringo hookup club (help) in Lima and Gotica the posh nightclub in downtown Lima. I was 1/10 at help in opening. the only girl that would entertain a conversation was a peruvian japanese girl who was fairly plain. I saw two tall blonde guys leaving the establishment with girls at the end of the night.

Gotica... man. By far the hottest girls I've ever seen packed into an establishment. $50 USD cover which we managed to bypass. To understand Gotica, you have to understand Peru. 97% of the people I saw in Peru were aboriginals. However, all the billboards, ads, etc.. have white people on them. The upper crust of Peru is basically white people and those are the people that frequent Gotica paying that crazy cover. They could care a flying fuck about foreigners and they know that guys just come down to look to sex. Thus, every girl I tried talking to just simply turned away as soon as I opened my mouth. The only receptive one was a darker aboriginal girl who just wanted my money. You want to hunt down the darker girls with broken english. If they're perfectly fluent, generally I found that they have pedigreed upbringing and aren't interested in foreign losers. The odd thing was I saw couple of local asian guys there with hot girls.

Cuzco. I just visited the gringo bars near the main square. If you like average or subpar girls by all means it's doable. Some of them were receptive.

Peru conclusion: Status is king. Being asian doesn't really seem to help or hurt as the foreigner thing overrides it. If you're a tall white guy it definitely helps. You could probably do well with the local aboriginals but that mostly has to do with being a foreigner rather than race. You need to be ingrained in the local scene (not passing through) in order to snag an upper class girl.

Bolivia. Just briefly passed through just to see the salt flats

Argentina. Went through Salta, Cordoba, Rosario, and BA.

It seems the whole country is sexually conservative. Guys I've met who have spent a long time there find it's harder to hookup than the US. That being said Cordoba has by far the hottest concentration of girls I've seen in one area. I went out with 6'+ blond white guys frequently and they would definitely get more attention than me. Some of these guys had zero conversational skills but they still managed to pull avg or subavg girls as occasionally a girl would attack them which is unusual in Argentina. One night that we did end up at a girl's place a girl who made a slant eye face at me earlier wanted to make out.

Argentina Conclusion: Argentina is complicated but undoubtedly subtly racist and I think being asian takes you down a notch. All the locals in every country during my whole trip kept mentioning that Argentines look down upon the whole continent and it's true. A korean-argentine friend who grew up in BA confirms the subtle racism. Then of course you tell them their country is a shittier version of europe to take them down a peg and it leaves them confused. If you're looking for the sex go somewhere else.

However... The argentines (not in BA) have to be some of the most warmest and generous people around. We'd frequently end up at random parties at night just because people were being friendly. Random people would want to strike up conversations and buy you beer. Way more friendly than anywhere in the US. The racism definitely isn't overt from the perspective of rich country backpacker.

The weird thing about the whole damn trip was that the most success I had was with the european hostel girls which makes me curious about europe in general. I think the trick is visiting places where they don't have a strong stereotype.

I also think that white guys should be thankful of quirks of history. Specifically colonialism for putting them in high status all across the world =).

[midknight]

Thanks for that fantastic write-up bro!

Just confirms all of my impressions. Europeans girls are DEFINITELY more open and some are DOWNRIGHT eager to hook up with fly looking Asian-American guys.

South American girls, not so much, although I never had much interest in South American girls in the first place. This just makes me not want to go there at all.

Time to buy that ticket over to Europe and get to work!

[Rocco81]

Well remember this midKnight: You are exotic there, the media over there doesn't clown on Asian dudes like it does here and Europeans are open to things like that.

[Rocco81]

MidKnight: You can live very comfortably pretty much anywhere on 110k a year. I mean of course if you are in London. NYC or Tokyo, you might not be driving a Ferrari and rocking Armani suites every day, but you will still be living fairly well. Far better than most people in any major city in the world,

Now take out the 3-4 majorly expensive cities in the world and you can live very well in pretty much any of the other cities in the world.

Good thing about many European cities is that you don't even need a car and are not expected to own one. Use your money to travel don't waste it trying to be a "play boy" with the huge gas guzzler, tons of material things etc. . Think experiences, travelling, living in an old house, or a flat near castles or some other legendary scenary instead of a brand new pad with a satelite and 3 huge flat screens, busy crowded streets (US ideal)..think new hobies, new music, new perspective and last but not lease new pussy.

[AJ]

Keep in mind 2 things.

1) I didn't visit columbia or brazil the two places where people have had great things to say. Peru is completely doable. It's cheap but you'd have to establish yourself in the local culture there. A hostel owner and I talked in Lima and he had come to the same conclusions as I.
2) My european sample size is very small <9. But from UK I got mostly ambivalence like I was in the US. German/Swedish were more receptive.

[midknight]

(10-19-2010 04:32 PM)Rocco81 Wrote:  

MidKnight: You can live very comfortably pretty much anywhere on 110k a year. I mean of course if you are in London. NYC or Tokyo, you might not be driving a Ferrari and rocking Armani suites every day, but you will still be living fairly well. Far better than most people in any major city in the world,

Now take out the 3-4 majorly expensive cities in the world and you can live very well in pretty much any of the other cities in the world.

Good thing about many European cities is that you don't even need a car and are not expected to own one. Use your money to travel don't waste it trying to be a "play boy" with the huge gas guzzler, tons of material things etc. . Think experiences, travelling, living in an old house, or a flat near castles or some other legendary scenary instead of a brand new pad with a satelite and 3 huge flat screens, busy crowded streets (US ideal)..think new hobies, new music, new perspective and last but not lease new pussy.

This all sounds like a really good idea Rocco.

Any particular countries or cities you recommend where I can found an old house or apartment near some amazing scenery and be surrounded by hot European girls?

I'm thinking right now, based on what others have told me, Czech Republic or the Baltic countries.

[InternationPlayboy]

(10-11-2010 03:19 AM)youngmobileglobal Wrote:  

I am very into Latin women and can speak some Spanish so LA is definitely on my to-do list.

Panama and Chile in particular are interesting to me, although I have no idea what the women are like.

I have a feeling you're not going to be wanting "to-do" many latinass in LA. They are mostly central american and mexican. Not very attractive. Hit up miami for better latina women if you are staying in the states.