[Deepdiver]

I am on Paul Janka's mailing list - he seems to have given up on creating any new material since his seminal "Getting laid in NYC" and "Attraction Formula" works - some of the more useful and less slimey PUA stuff out there... I have both PDFs that I bought for $49 so PM me if anyone wants copies.

He now seems to be milking his email list for affiliate marketing - to be honest he just sent a surprisingly well done affiliate link to this new Girlfriend Activation System by some guy Chris Hudson - was a pretty well done pencil sketching animation type video that was fairly compelling - talking about how the majority of women are obsessed with Literotica the way men are to online video porn.

Think 50 Shades of Gray and he claims the key to getting 10's consistently and having them pay for going out with you, take care of you and lay you like wild vixens in heat is to tap into the subconscious Obsession Story line in her lizard brain (yes he uses the term lizard brain in the video promotional wonder if they have stealth accounts on RVF) - of course he goes through the typical long winded promo animation video of how he was a provider Alpha loser who never got laid into an obsession male sex object of uncontrollable desire with multiple female 10's - funny segment of how he tried to send flowers to a 10 and shows up with Sushi unannounced to a 10 he went on a couple dates and arrived when the flowers were being delivered only to find some guy come to the door when the flowers were delivered and she was standing behind her new fuck buddy in a bed sheet irate he just dropped by... may be a lame beta move but he found out the real truth - been there done that and nexted the slore - anyhow...

Then he goes into his system and how it enabled him to use women's literotica obsessions and especially dime pieces to tap into their deep desires and turn them into your sex goddesses without the usual provider game than eventually fizzles with most of them anyway.

Of course they go into the typical digital info marketing squeeze play BS with a dozen freebies reports and why their unique information is worth more than all the wealth in the world and not $5K or $1.5K or $500 if you order right now today its ONLY $67 dollars - really starting to loathe this Dan Kennedy / Ryan Deiss sleeze marketing methodology they all use - that said I almost clicked on the Buy Now for $67 link - except it said it was a On line video course - like I have time to sit through some one line video course where you KNOW they are going to upsell you everything else they can dream up.

Any ways the basic premise of the pitch - forget playing provider alpha/beta game who never gets laid and get alpha 10 dime piece women to become your devoted sex obsessed "Girlfriends" and even pay for you as dime pieces usually have superior earning power anyway (Models/Celebs/Fit fab women) and keep your treasure where it belongs in your war chest for a rainy day when YOU really need it.

So before I spend $67 to learn the the secrets of Literotica and how to systematically activate the female 10's evolutionary desire to connect sexually only with men who activate their inner obsession story (50 Shades sold more than 60 Million freaking copies after all) - just thought I would throw it out here and see if anyone else has bought it and if the info is useful - or just more digital marketing crap to cross sell upsell and side door sell more secrets for getting women to attack you for sex as soon as you activate their subconscious sexual obsessions and desires.

Shoot me a PM for the links if interested - learned they hard way not to post "Spam links" on RVF"...

Deepdiver - out...

[Therapsid]

(08-24-2013 11:10 AM)Deepdiver Wrote:  

So before I spend $67 to learn the the secrets of Literotica and how to systematically activate the female 10's evolutionary desire to connect sexually only with men who activate their inner obsession story (50 Shades sold more than 60 Million freaking copies after all) - just thought I would throw it out here and see if anyone else has bought it and if the info is useful - or just more digital marketing crap to cross sell upsell and side door sell more secrets for getting women to attack you for sex as soon as you activate their subconscious sexual obsessions and desires.

Shoot me a PM for the links if interested - learned they hard way not to post "Spam links" on RVF"...

Deepdiver - out...

This still sounds like to me.

[germanico]

He is trying to get 75% of $67, of course it would be a compelling write up.

I say you dont need it. But if you think $67 would make a significant difference in your game, by all means buy it.

[Deepdiver]

(08-24-2013 11:45 AM)germanico Wrote:  

He is trying to get 75% of $67, of course it would be a compelling write up.

I say you dont need it. But if you think $67 would make a significant difference in your game, by all means buy it.

The $67 is no big deal but the game techniques if novel would be useful for other projects of mine so a write off anyway - my issue is it is now PUAaaS or PUA as an online service you have to sit and waste time going through his videos and scenario examples - just give me the eBook(s) and or DVD so I can absorb the key material and fast forward or skip any self serving fluff...

Seems a lot of this is geared to an NYC set of logistics and the high concentration of high value targets - 10s in fact.

[WestIndianArchie]

I imagine you could get the same things from

1) how to write erotica
2) how to write romance novels
3) reading erotica/romance novels and taking notes

Most of them trade on
- slow build up of action
- ice cold uncaring alphas
- a chick so awesome, ice cold thaws out
- trysts that can't happen
- dirty fantasies that she can envision

One of the big psychological things is that chicks will hear ANYTHING, and make it personal.

9/11 - omg, I was thinking about going to NY last year, that could have been me

male jogger gets shot - Omg, I have a pair of sneakers, that could have been me

pork belly prices are up - OMG, I'm glad I bought bacon last week.

That being said, I'd be interested in how he's able to use literotica to pull a NY 10.

As far as I know, the typical 10 isn't pulling up Alt.Sex.Stories.Moderated and jilling off. So it's gotta be more in what he says to a chick after she's open, which means he still has to find a 10, open her, and get her to a spot where she can here his spiel.

WIA

[thebassist]

I'd recommend you search 'soul collection' on krauser's page. I remember him having some interesting stuff, but if I recall correctly he never gets down to the nitty-gritty of it just because some of it can be dangerously powerful.

Something he also does a lot are sex chats with long distance girlfriends, where he pretty much makes himself and the girl the focus of a sexual fantasy. I think it's all part of making the girls hooked to him. Do check it out if you're interested.

[LeBeau]

(08-25-2013 03:47 AM)thebassist Wrote:  

I'd recommend you search 'soul collection' on krauser's page. I remember him having some interesting stuff, but if I recall correctly he never gets down to the nitty-gritty of it just because some of it can be dangerously powerful.

Something he also does a lot are sex chats with long distance girlfriends, where he pretty much makes himself and the girl the focus of a sexual fantasy. I think it's all part of making the girls hooked to him. Do check it out if you're interested.

I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to, but you're right that a lot of these techniques can be very powerful.

Since I was a young teenager, I was naturally very good at deep conversion and future projection fantasies, even more so than closing ONS and cold approach game.

I actually slowly developed a technique that consistently worked, that I coined "Storygasms".

I was considering dropping a mini data sheet on it if people are interested.

It sounds like there might be some overlap with those sex chats you were referring to, but I also put some unique touches on it that I haven't heard other guys use.

[Virtus]

please do storygasms data sheet

but yeah. looked at the website of this girlfriend activation system.. could not finish the promo video. some spoon fed bs for 0 day 0 game guys.

[The Beast1]

You could just do the dom BDSM stuff in the other thread.

I think that would add a nice level of spice to alpha/beta provider game. Be a provider, but make her submit to you that way.

[Deepdiver]

I am not sure that this is BDSM oriented as a lot of that is just play fantasy - I am more into living the real fantasy - still on the fence about this and may just spend the $67 as having a reserve of 10's you can master and deploy as guided missiles can be quite useful in various business endeavors.

[Virtus]

If you think that 67 bucks will give you super secret nerd power over swarms of 10s to have at your disposal.. may i interest you in a bridge works investment opportunity?

P.s. stop sounding like a shill

[Deepdiver]

(08-25-2013 02:30 PM)calihunter Wrote:  

If you think that 67 bucks will give you super secret nerd power over swarms of 10s to have at your disposal.. may i interest you in a bridge works investment opportunity?

P.s. stop sounding like a shill

CH - Attack me all you want I am definitely not trying to sell anyone anything here so not a SHILL by any means - as many guys here are looking at digital marketing lifestyle and game - I admired the level of effort that went into this and decided to share to see if anything novel in the game content and if anyone else heard of it - I even offered to share a couple of Janka's PDFs for NYC etc.

My level of interest is basically the same as stated by WIA:

"That being said, I'd be interested in how he's able to use literotica to pull a NY 10."

CH - Save your personal attacks for somebody who will impressed by it as I am not.

[MikeCF]

(08-25-2013 04:02 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  

"That being said, I'd be interested in how he's able to use literotica to pull a NY 10."

You guys sound like teenagers who are going to buy the latest supplement because a bodybuilder on steroids said it will make you swole.

When have any of these guys produced evidence that they are banging 10s?

They are a fraud - all of them.

[Nomad77]

Ok, lets just look at the logic of this...

Wasn't Mr. Grey like a young, very handsome billionaire and aren't all the men in these novels sort of like that? You take someone like Roosh or Krasuer and sure they may get an 8+ once in awhile but that's it and just imagine the level of expertise and the amount of work these guys have put into their trade. I regularly work this market (8+) and the reality is, most of these girls are already taken. It's is extremely difficult to find one that is single or available. You can't provide them with a fantasy because they usually already have some sem-beta dude providing it to them already. Also, in my experience the top tier girls are not really into these romance novels, simply because they don't have to be, they already have the real thing. The women that read those books are your average looking girl wishing she was a 10. And I believe that is exactly who it is in 50 Shades: an average girl working an average job in a average town dreaming about some rich, handsome guy swooshing in to take her away from it all.

[Virtus]

Nomad we do get a crack at all kinds of women at different stages in their lives and by having that lil extra skill may trigger her just at that moment since your offer matches her interest. Or you simply generate that interest in her ala ross jeffries/darren brown. Thats all game does really as I see it. Skill at recognizing all the proper tells and playing the hand you have. Or making her think thats wxactly what she wants by getting her into a qualifying mindset n then rewarding with experience. so sure, that 8 maybe a 24yo fresh out of a multi year ltr and not actually in touch with any of it and here you are with your whatever your angle is.. so it would be great if this was some datasheet. Alas, this is copypasta marketing copy with the affiliate links promised vis pm. Pshh.

[Virtus]

Nomad we do get a crack at all kinds of women at different stages in their lives and by having that lil extra skill may trigger her just at that moment since your offer matches her interest. Thats all game does really as I see it. Skill at recognizing all the proper tells and playing the hand you have.. so sure, that 8 maybe a 24yo fresh out of a multi year ltr and not actually in touch with any of it and here you are with your whatever your angle is.. so it would be great if this was some datasheet. Alas, this is copypasta marketing copy with the affiliate links promised vis pm. Pshh.

[Virtus]

Plz delete second one. Phone posted multiples. This message too

[Deepdiver]

As for the affiliate links CH mentioned in full disclosure I said they were from Paul Janka in my OP and another review site that did an affiliate link disguised as a review of the program. I make no $$$ from this as any I did would be chump change to me and not worth the effort.

I guess what the superior minded game experts here are failing to notice is the biz side of this equation - 50 Shades books have already sold nearly 70 Million Copies - rivals Harry Potter and is all about bored women getting their sexual fantasies off - and experimenting with their husbands/partners to put some spice back in their lives.

Call me naive if you dare (yeah a world travelling former nuke boats diver and driver naive - not likely).

Point is 70 Million copies sold of anything not to mention a critically panned as poorly written sex fantasy book for women is a major blow out global commercial success story critics be damned.

Any program that claims to tap into the psychology behind this phenomenon is going to be of interest to me from a purely biz point of view - the idea that I may tap into setting a few tens up as steady lays is just frosting on the cake. Sweeet.

So lets take the BS about affiliates etc out of the discussion and assume we are all grown men who know how to get laid one way or another and are just interested in delving into the psych/science behind this phenomena and see how we can perhaps exploit it to our own mutual selfish benefit...

West Indian Archie - what say you?

[Deepdiver]

(08-25-2013 04:04 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(08-25-2013 04:02 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  

"That being said, I'd be interested in how he's able to use literotica to pull a NY 10."

You guys sound like teenagers who are going to buy the latest supplement because a bodybuilder on steroids said it will make you swole.

When have any of these guys produced evidence that they are banging 10s?

They are a fraud - all of them.

Correction the Quote is by West Indian Archie - to give proper credit to where credit is due.

[Jaylow]

I highly doubt that the young 20s age group or any attractive female is reading these romance novels at all so explain to me how this would even work?

As G once said, those books are for fat chicks and grandmas.

[WestIndianArchie]

@deepdiver

Why do you think people who buy information products don't give real reviews?

I "came across" that Tao of the Badass joint and I was shocked how horrible it was. (looking for some kinda Clickbank nonsense to promote after reading too much warrior forum. *sticks with day job*)

I know that all the IM dudes are using the
- "legit or scam"
- hella shady backlinks
- lots of on page seo
- every long tail kw imaginable...

But I couldn't find any legit stuff anywhere.

Given that so much of the material is easy to sample you'd think SOMEBODY would just be real about it.

WIA

[thegmanifesto]

(08-26-2013 03:36 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  

I highly doubt that the young 20s age group or any attractive female is reading these romance novels at all so explain to me how this would even work?

As G once said, those books are for fat chicks and grandmas.

Ha.

Did I say that before?

I was reading this thread and I was going to write something similar.

[Sonsowey]

Have you ever been with a girl who viewed you as her Leading Man in some romance novel?

A girl who says "this is like a dream" "I never thought someone like you was real" etc.?

Girls can really flip themselves out because of their romantic notions, and start thinking that you're some kind of demi-god if you catch them at the right point in their life.

Part of this is taking her outside of her comfort zone and leading. This can sometimes be as simple as doing things with her she's never done before. Taking a trip somewhere new, exposing her to new things, whatever.

More cultured girls, I dunno, but a girl who has a limited life experience can be swept off her feet by some salsa and new food she's never had.

[Sonsowey]

(08-26-2013 03:36 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  

I highly doubt that the young 20s age group or any attractive female is reading these romance novels at all so explain to me how this would even work?

50 shades of grey and twilight are just romance novels.

[Deepdiver]

(08-27-2013 12:56 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

(08-26-2013 03:36 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  

I highly doubt that the young 20s age group or any attractive female is reading these romance novels at all so explain to me how this would even work?

50 shades of grey and twilight are just romance novels.

You guys are zoning in on the "Romance Novels" aspect while I am looking hard at the Biz model of 70 Million Copies sold - Roosh has mentioned he has around a million+ copies sold - not bad at all even if only $5 a piece ebooks thats a $5 Million cash flow in 5+/- years - but 70 Million copies sold around $20 a pop is in a class by itself. Literally a Billion plus gross.

Understanding the the psychology behind this is at least useful biz info as well as useful game info imnsho.