Quote: (08-18-2013 01:57 PM)dontuan Wrote:
That's a little better for new Zealanders, but whats the difference between that and being an American who stays in a Schengen country for 90 days and then goes to Croatia for another 90 before coming back in? We can all figure out a way to stay in Europe as long as we want. But the hope is to stay in a particular country without having to leave for three months. And New Zealanders don't have a distinct advantage in regards to that
I guess as a New Zealander you can reside in a border town in Germany in the meantime and get the girl from Poland to take the train to visit you, but that's still not ideal.
Quote: (08-17-2013 06:20 AM)theArbiter Wrote:
Also, I think New Zealand citizens can stay in Schengen longer as they have a special policy for them. The technicality here is that
you can reset the 90 clock by switching countries, so the 180 day counter is largely eliminated. Here's the wikipedia page on that.
Read what I wrote about the 90 out of 180 day obstacle. This is a real killer:
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Call the day you enter the EU "Day 1". You have to exit on Day 90, but then your counter starts on Day 90 once you enter UK. Thus, you can only stay until Day 179, not Day 180. I don't think you can reenter Schengen until Day 181.
(typo: by EU, I meant Schengen)
If what I say is true, then you need a THIRD country to buffer that pesky 179th and 180th day. Thus, you CAN'T do 90 day in Croatia and 90 day in Schengen unless you buffer through another non-Schengen country.
New Zealanders, on the other hand, according to Wikipedia, aren't met with this restriction as long as they rotate between countries with "individual bilateral visa waiver agreements" (not all Schengen countries are in here). For example, you can go to Belgium for 90 days, switch to the Netherlands for 90 days, switch to Denmark for 90 days, and so and and so forth. In fact, I think you can visit Belgium for 90 days, cross the border to one of such countries, and re-enter again
without waiting 91/92 days.
Going to a Schengen country without such individual bilateral visa waiver agreements, however, completely invalidates this resulting in the default Schengen rules being applied.
Again, I would like to see someone corroborate this because this is my painstaking interpretation of the documentation out there. I'm not aware of many people thinking of such a strategy, and I think for this reason, there is a dearth of information about this "90 day in each of two countries" attempt.