[VincentVinturi]

I have several really cool girls I see regularly. They know I fuck around and while they drop sneaky comments about it to test me, they really don't make a huge deal out of it.

Well, I had some shit go down....

Usually when I'm spending time with a woman, I'm 100% focused on her, loving on her, making her feel special. Because she is.

But I decided it would be good to experiment with being openly flirtatious with other women. Not in an asshole way to rub it in her face. But simply because other women catch my eye.

Yesterday I met up with one of my gals after the gym. We walked down the busy Bangkok street and found a place to eat dinner. As we were sitting around waiting, I noticed two smoking Chinese girls and watched them for a while.

Then I responded to a text I got from a girl I'd met earlier that day at the mall, who's name happened to be the same as the girl I was with...

She didn't say anything and dinner went as usual. But when we got back to my place she really started an epic marathon of shit testing. Like that she knows I see other girls and fuck around and what does she mean to me? Is she just there for sex?

Basically, it looks like being so open about my desires and letting my eyes wander gave her the feeling that she was justified in acting crazy.

I listened and shut up and just looked at her and let her go on. Then at night she wouldn't let me sleep. She was just on a quest to break me down haha. Kept asking me questions like what if I don't come back ever again and all this?

To tell the truth, I was trying not laugh half the time and trying not to choke her the other half because I really needed some damn sleep!

Sometime today, after zero sleep, and a lot of her crying and flipping out, she finally calmed down and we fucked and things were cool again.

But it just got me thinking. On the one hand, I'm not prepared to dumb myself down for anybody. If I want to look at other girls - shit, if I want to go and invite other girls to fuck right then and there in front of a girl I'm with! - that's exactly what I'm going to do.

But if I have to deal with this kind of nonsense and lose sleep over it, maybe it's better to keep my attention on one at a time?

I'm tired...gonna sleep. What do you guys think? Experiences?

[capote]

I'm doing that with a girl right now. She likes to play mind games so I'm letting her have some. The other night we were banging and I get a call at 4am from another chick. I didn't take the call obviously but picked up the phone to see who it was. Later she complained, saying that she doesn't know what to make of "this". I just brushed it off nonchalantly. It helps that I'm a very heavy sleeper lol.

In a nutshell: Don't give the girl more attention than she deserves. Most chicks who've had a beta ex in the past expect the same attention/affection from every guy they meet later on. Don't be the guy that fawns over her like all her beta-ass admirers.

[Cattle Rustler]

What Capote said, don't give a woman more attention than she deserves or else she will expect such attention.

My girlfriend often gets eye-fucked by many guys, some are with their wifes/gf. She tells me when this happens and says "I (she) hate it when guys do this in front of their partners"....

....to which I reply " I don't blame them, it's because their wives aren't doing their job.". It shuts her up.

If one's date/gf/wive starts to slack off, giving less attention or letting your eyes wonder often lets her know she's not doing her job...which she will take care of most of the time.

Girls like to shit test guys, they should expect the same.

[Virtus]

if you are out with a girl she should have you attention and you have hers. otherwise what is the point of being out together.. if either one disrespects that intentionally then the other one has a right to feel slighted.. don't take girls out you don't care for at all.. she should know you have options, but it all should be subtle. how would you like to find 5 tied off condoms in her bathroom bin?

[Giovonny]

Never give a woman your full attention. It appears needy.

[Parlay44]

Quote:

Usually when I'm spending time with a woman, I'm 100% focused on her, loving on her, making her feel special. Because she is.

Yeah no.

The fact that your penis can get any woman in the world pregnant proves that women are not special.

[soup]

(08-09-2013 11:40 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Quote:

Usually when I'm spending time with a woman, I'm 100% focused on her, loving on her, making her feel special. Because she is.

Yeah no.

The fact that your penis can get any woman in the world pregnant proves that women are not special.

This is a great sentence.

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Finally a thread just on eye contact..

Girls get turned on when you can look them in the eye.

Always be able to look them in the eye and don't be the first one to turn away. That's prey behaviour.

It's been said that if you look at her left eye, you will engage more of her emotional brain because the brain is divided into two parts (the other being the logical side, which you want to disengage).

I never look into their right eye.

I look into her left eye with my left eye when she's talking because it's more empathetic.

I look into her left eye with my right eye because it establishes dominance.

I'm not 100% sure on the science of this, but I do it anyway.

Don't look at her with wide eyes ever.

You want to have a sanguine look on your face of a man who has an abundance of pussy and no worries in the world. You smirk at her with your eyes. You laugh at how ridiculous she is with your eyes.

I try to get it so that she can see they glint of my eye. Smaller eyes on men are more attractive and mysterious than bug eyes of a nerd.

Also, you can stare at parts of face that are right next to her eye to fuck with her and make her feel insecure like she's got something on her face.

[A War You Cannot Win]

The only thing better than acting like you're disinterested and bored is to actually be disinterested and bored on a date.

[Therapsid]

(08-09-2013 10:15 AM)calihunter Wrote:  

if you are out with a girl she should have you attention and you have hers. otherwise what is the point of being out together.. if either one disrespects that intentionally then the other one has a right to feel slighted.. don't take girls out you don't care for at all.. she should know you have options, but it all should be subtle. how would you like to find 5 tied off condoms in her bathroom bin?

I like the sentiment behind your words, but I find that when I occasionally check-out other women around the girl I'm with I usually get good results. It's like everything else, push and pull, hot and cold works - so you can look directly into her eyes and then away, especially if she averts her gaze first.

[Travesty]

(08-09-2013 10:15 AM)calihunter Wrote:  

if you are out with a girl she should have you attention and you have hers. otherwise what is the point of being out together.. if either one disrespects that intentionally then the other one has a right to feel slighted.. don't take girls out you don't care for at all.. she should know you have options, but it all should be subtle. how would you like to find 5 tied off condoms in her bathroom bin?

I see what you are saying, but anytime I am out and my eyes wander the girl's interest grows.

In this case I would have kicked the girl out for bitching and told her she would have to apologize later. No reason to lose sleep or time to a woman that isn't holding your full attention in the first place.

You cannot put up with shit. It does not work.

[Parlay44]

(08-09-2013 02:43 PM)A War You Cannot Win Wrote:  

The only thing better than acting like you're disinterested and bored is to actually be disinterested and bored on a date.

I'd like to expand on this a little bit. When a woman likes you first she engages you in conversation. If she's not getting your attention then she gets ditzy and flirty with you. If you're still not interested she goes for the Hail Mary and throws some pussy your way to try to lock you in. Blow her off at that point(after you fuck her) and you've got a fuck buddy for life. I've had it happen.

[VincentVinturi]

(08-09-2013 11:40 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Quote:

Usually when I'm spending time with a woman, I'm 100% focused on her, loving on her, making her feel special. Because she is.

Yeah no.

The fact that your penis can get any woman in the world pregnant proves that women are not special.

that's...a good point.

[soup]

(08-09-2013 07:59 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(08-09-2013 02:43 PM)A War You Cannot Win Wrote:  

The only thing better than acting like you're disinterested and bored is to actually be disinterested and bored on a date.

I'd like to expand on this a little bit. When a woman likes you first she engages you in conversation. If she's not getting your attention then she gets ditzy and flirty with you. If you're still not interested she goes for the Hail Mary and throws some pussy your way to try to lock you in. Blow her off at that point(after you fuck her) and you've got a fuck buddy for life. I've had it happen.

I did this last night. This girl showed up to the date with her friend, another girl. At some point in the date, she just starts incessantly checking her iphone.

So, I just started talking to her friend. Eventually, I was making out with her friend.

That's what she gets disrespecting me.


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Like anything in game, you want to keep her on her toes. Push her away, pull her in.

You have to make her unsure of whether or not you think she's worthy of your attention.

If you don't look at her at all, she's just going to think you have no interest or are afraid to look at her.

You can't build attraction without building some comfort.

Think about it like this:

The woman is cat. It craves your attention because you are it's master and it needs to feel validated.

When the cat does something wrong, you squirt it with lemon water.

When the cat does something good, you give it a food treat.


Looking at a girl is giving her the food treat. If you do it too much, the meaning is lost, and you are putting the attention on her to be the master, which in her heart of hearts she doesn't want.

It's Pavlov 101 with women:

"Conditioning is usually done by pairing the two stimuli, as in Pavlov’s classic experiments.[5] Pavlov presented dogs with a ringing bell followed by food. The food elicited salivation (UR), and after repeated bell-food pairings the bell also caused the dogs to salivate. In this experiment, the unconditioned stimulus is the dog food as it produces an unconditioned response, saliva. The conditioned stimulus is the ringing bell and it produces a conditioned response of the dogs producing saliva."