[Clyde]

http://gawker.com/man-saves-his-dog-from...1039739575



A man forced to abandon his yacht after running into a reef and nearly capsizing chose to help his dog ashore before returning to rescue his wife.

South African couple Graham and Sheryl Anley had set sail on a three-month tour around the cape when they hit rough waters near East London.

"As the incident happened Graham sent a mayday radio distress call and activated the EPIRB (emergency position indicating radio beacon) but they were immediately forced to abandon the yacht," said National Sea Rescue Institute rep Geoff McGregor.

In a move that will likely put him in the Dog House for some time, Graham made the decision to save his beloved 9-year-old Jack Russell Rosie first, before ensuring his wife's safety.

"Graham told us he first swam Rosie ashore safely before returning for his wife, whose safety line had become snagged on the steering gear," McGregor said in a statement.

A rescue helicopter arrived on the scene a short time later and airlifted the couple and their dog to a nearby sea rescue base.

None of the parties involved had sustained any injuries, though something tells me that may yet change.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

I guess the reasoning was that the wife was able to fend for herself, whereas the dog was not.

[durangotang]

(08-07-2013 11:43 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

I guess the reasoning was that the wife was able to fend for herself, whereas the dog was not.

He is getting criticized, but clearly he made the right decision. Both his dog and his wife are alive. Save your dog at the expense of your wife's ego. Good call.

[Parlay44]

He can always get another wife

[Beyond Borders]

Funny. Reminds me of a boats and rafts trip I took down the river back home with a bunch of friends once, stopping along the way to pound down beers and take shots of whiskey. My girl and I were in a boat together and we came down these decent rapids and the boat broadsided a rock outcropping coming off the mountain, flipping us over. I managed to get the boat turned back rightside up and clamber inside. Girlfriend is clinging to the rock having a fit - obviously being dramatic, as these weren't heavy rapids or anything - and I took one look at her before paddling after the beers. haha

Heard shit from her the rest of the trip, disguised as joking. All my friends and their ole ladies were laughing their asses off when it went down.

[Beyond Borders]

I also saw they are refusing to field any questions from media. Good on them - living their dreams, sailing around the world, and ignoring the trolls of society.

[soup]

Dog comes before woman in the hierarchy:

[Mack Four]

You guys aren't going to like this, but...

You save the mother of your children, FIRST. Period, end of discussion. She dies and your kids will, rightfully, never forgive you.

Now, if yall don't have kids that's another discussion...

[Walderschmidt]

(08-07-2013 03:59 PM)Mack Four Wrote:  

You guys aren't going to like this, but...

You save the mother of your children, FIRST. Period, end of discussion. She dies and your kids will, rightfully, never forgive you.

Now, if yall don't have kids that's another discussion...

You are certainly entitled to your opinion.

Wald

[Beyond Borders]

(08-07-2013 03:59 PM)Mack Four Wrote:  

You guys aren't going to like this, but...

You save the mother of your children, FIRST. Period, end of discussion. She dies and your kids will, rightfully, never forgive you.

I'd tend to agree with you and think most of us are just joking here. I think he surmised that she was at no real risk of getting hurt. Mainstream media assumes that any incident with a boat sinking means they are in immediate danger, but in some instances that isn't the case.

Handsome Creepy Eel said it best in his comment above.

There was even a woman poster - also a yachter - that made an enlightening comment on one article about this story. And it was that she always told her husband that if something happened to worry about the kids and the dogs first as she, being a human adult, could fend for herself.

That's all that happened here.

There was another article with a ton of their sailing friends just posting to say they were glad they were okay and not even mentioning this, so I think this angle is only a big deal in the news, as they want to pitch a story.

[el mechanico]

(08-07-2013 03:59 PM)Mack Four Wrote:  

You guys aren't going to like this, but...

You save the mother of your children, FIRST. Period, end of discussion. She dies and your kids will, rightfully, never forgive you.

Now, if yall don't have kids that's another discussion...

Do you have kids or ??

I don't know anyone who would not put the kids first.

[Beyond Borders]

(08-07-2013 05:26 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(08-07-2013 03:59 PM)Mack Four Wrote:  

You guys aren't going to like this, but...

You save the mother of your children, FIRST. Period, end of discussion. She dies and your kids will, rightfully, never forgive you.

Now, if yall don't have kids that's another discussion...

Do you have kids or ??

I don't know anyone who would not put the kids first.

I don't think he meant if kids were there, El. There was only the woman and the dog in this situation.

[el mechanico]

(08-07-2013 05:34 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(08-07-2013 05:26 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(08-07-2013 03:59 PM)Mack Four Wrote:  

You guys aren't going to like this, but...

You save the mother of your children, FIRST. Period, end of discussion. She dies and your kids will, rightfully, never forgive you.

Now, if yall don't have kids that's another discussion...

Do you have kids or ??

I don't know anyone who would not put the kids first.

I don't think he meant if kids were there, El. There was only the woman and the dog in this situation.

Sounds like he meant it that way..

So if you're on a sinking boat save your kids mom and not some random old lady? Duh.

A reef is land which means you smashed into something you can get out and walk on.

[Mack Four]

(08-07-2013 05:26 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Do you have kids or ??

I don't know anyone who would not put the kids first.

The most beautiful little girl on earth is indeed mine.

Protecting the mother of your children is absolutely the height of masculinity. Any "man" who wouldn't isn't worthy of the title.

[el mechanico]

(08-07-2013 05:45 PM)Mack Four Wrote:  

(08-07-2013 05:26 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Do you have kids or ??

I don't know anyone who would not put the kids first.

The most beautiful little girl on earth is indeed mine.

Protecting the mother of your children is absolutely the height of masculinity. Any "man" who wouldn't isn't worthy of the title.

You're new here so I think

Otherwise I would engage this.

[Beyond Borders]

(08-07-2013 05:43 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(08-07-2013 05:34 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(08-07-2013 05:26 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(08-07-2013 03:59 PM)Mack Four Wrote:  

You guys aren't going to like this, but...

You save the mother of your children, FIRST. Period, end of discussion. She dies and your kids will, rightfully, never forgive you.

Now, if yall don't have kids that's another discussion...

Do you have kids or ??

I don't know anyone who would not put the kids first.

I don't think he meant if kids were there, El. There was only the woman and the dog in this situation.

Sounds like he meant it that way..

So if you're on a sinking boat save your kids mom and not some random old lady? Duh.

A reef is land which means you smashed into something you can get out and walk on.

I thought he was just saying you always save the mother of your kids before some dog. Reading his latest response though, I'm now a bit confused. Mayhap be that I was wrong.

[Mack Four]

(08-07-2013 05:49 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

You're new here so I think

Otherwise I would engage this.

Search my posts. You'll find I'm pretty reasonable.

Woman hating and marriage bashing just ain't my thing.

[el mechanico]

So you love women a marriage. Why are you here?

[Mack Four]

(08-07-2013 05:50 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

I thought he was just saying you always save the mother of your kids before some dog. Reading his latest response though, I'm now a bit confused. Mayhap be that I was wrong.

This. It ain't about HER, it's about YOUR KIDS. How fucked up are they going to be about losing their mother. That HAS to be a priority for you as a man. If it isn't, I openly question your manhood.

[Mack Four]

(08-07-2013 05:54 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

So you love women a marriage. Why are you here?

I like women, I love sex.

Marriage I'm on the fence about. I am divorced after all. But I don't see it as some great evil. It works for some people and not for others.

I don't think that's a particularly extreme position to hold.

[Walderschmidt]

(08-07-2013 05:52 PM)Mack Four Wrote:  

Search my posts. You'll find I'm pretty reasonable.

Woman hating and marriage bashing just ain't my thing.

(08-07-2013 05:54 PM)Mack Four Wrote:  

This. It ain't about HER, it's about YOUR KIDS. How fucked up are they going to be about losing their mother. That HAS to be a priority for you as a man. If it isn't, I openly question your manhood.

Saying you've been reasonable in the past gives no credence to the idea that you are being reasonable now; it is no justification for being unreasonable in the future

Openly questioning the manhood of members who've been here longer than you, rather than discussing the issue, is not a good idea.

As it stands I'm not sure what you're trying to argue now because you're too busy posturing for status no one is going to give you!

Wald

[el mechanico]

So Mack, you're divorced and have a daughter. If your ex and kid were drowning you would save the ex??? How about your kid drowns. You got a wife, she leaves you. Now your kid is dead. Real manly dude.

[Menace]

A child is your flesh and blood; a wife or ex-wife is not. I'm not sure how you can even compare the love for a child to the love for a woman.

[Mack Four]

(08-07-2013 06:33 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

So Mack, you're divorced and have a daughter. If your ex and kid were drowning you would save the ex??? How about your kid drowns. You got a wife, she leaves you. Now your kid is dead. Real manly dude.

Now you're just twisting it.

Priorities in order of importance during life/death struggle:

Kid

Mother of Kid

Mom/dad

Best Friend

Dog

Everything else.

And since I've been officially warned by Roosh to drop the subject, this will be my last post in the thread.

[Beyond Borders]

(08-07-2013 06:44 PM)Mack Four Wrote:  

Now you're just twisting it.

Priorities in order of importance during life/death struggle:

Kid

Mother of Kid

As I suspected, you guys were just confusing eachother and arguing about two different things.

Quote:

And since I've been officially warned by Roosh to drop the subject, this will be my last post in the thread.

Not trying to tempt you back out in the thread again here, so no need to respond. Just a word of advice. I've often stood up and said my piece on the same issues you are without inciting too much of a backlash or getting any warnings (see my posts in the thread you were warned in, for example).

Two things:

First, sometimes it's the way you go about something rather than what you're saying, even if it feels like people are responding poorly against you for going against the grain.

Case in point: You could have avoided an argument with El in this thread if you would have realized he was confused and thought you were saying you'd save the mother of your children before your children (which you were not). I even jumped in and tried to point that out, and instead of backing me on my mediation, you kind of just argued right over me and let El go on thinking his interpretation was true until the post I'm quoting now. At that point, I decided to just keep my mouth shut and leave you to your own devices.

That was unnecessary and easily could have been avoided by slowing down and paying a bit more attention to the people you were engaging in conversation with. Go back and reread the sequence of posts here and I think you'll see what I mean.

Of course, El could have done the same, but don't forget you're the one who is new here, which brings up my second piece of advice, which is that you'll have a lot more clout to engage people with "against the grain" ideas if you slow down and earn some respect first. This is basic forum etiquette anywhere on the web.

I don't think your big bolded sig is helping your case either...at all. It really makes you seem like you're here on a campaign.

I hope to see more of your posts here, as I do think you have some worthwhile things to say, so I hope you take my advice constructively. Challenging people and offering some balance as needed is fine - again, I do it all the time. Just consider the manner and pace at which you're doing it. And maybe sometimes just rest assured that you've influenced the ideas of some lurkers instead of thinking you'll actually sway the opinion of every person you're arguing with.