OK, so I finally had the balls to try this: http://www.bristollair.com/outer-game/ro...pener.html
It actually worked better than I thought it would, even though I could tell my delivery of the opener was mediocre at best. She was a solid 8, and while her answer was "no", it actually started a normal conversation, etc. and she gave signals that she was reasonably into me. Solid kino, eye contact, she called me "cute", etc. I did not get the "shock and awe" response -- while she said no one had ever asked her that before, she didn't seem terribly freaked out by it. A bit later, when she was leaving, she finally admitted that she still thought it was a little crazy that I had asked that, and said "I'm sure there's at least one girl here who would say yes." Unfortunately I didn't quite have the balls to try it a second time (I did some more standard approaches instead). Also, I misread her level of interest (wasn't thinking quite straight) and am almost 100% sure I could have gotten a number, if not a makeout. For starters, she insisted on a kiss on the cheek when she was leaving.
Anyway, so my new theory is that I should forget all this "indirect game" stuff (Mystery Method is the perfect example, where you pretend that you're not interested in order to get her interested) and just go straight for the direct stuff like this. It doesn't have to be this particular opener, but there are plenty of other direct approaches I can use, where you are immediately signaling that (1) you are interested and (2) your interest is sexual, not platonic. If you get blown off... who cares? That's actually a good thing, because then you're not wasting your time. I've only really been doing cold approaches for a month or two now, and I can already tell that there are plenty of girls who will be polite and friendly to an indirect approach, even though they have zero attraction to you. Heck, I just recently got a phone number where the girl picked up the phone and immediately hung up on me, without so much as a "bye", once she realized who was calling. The last thing you want is to spend an hour or even longer talking to a girl who doesn't really like you.
A related book that I just read: "Mode One: Let The Women Know What You're REALLY Thinking" by Alan Roger Currie. The ebook version is just $10. The theory of the book is similar to what I just said: by pretending that you are not interested in a woman when you really are, you are just wasting her time and yours. Instead, if you're open and up front about your interest, even if your interest is just to have casual sex -- you may get shot down, but you know you're dealing only with women who are actually attracted to you.
Even my other approaches tonight were also probably a little more direct than I've done in the past, and overall, the results were positive. In addition to the approach I already described, I also got a makeout with an 8 and a VERY hot 9-9.5. The 8 actually blew me off afterwards, but I got the 9's number. (I then proceeded to be a total moron and hit the wrong button in my cell phone, thereby losing the number, and tried to look for her out on the street but didn't see her.) While I came home empty-handed, I now have some confidence that I can probably do the same thing again another night.
The main potential downside I see to direct game is that you're relying more on your appearance and less on your personality -- but I'm not sure that that's entirely a bad thing if you're reasonably OK-looking but naturally have a somewhat "beta" personality as I do. And if girls are attracted to confidence, and if direct game shows confidence, you may even be doing yourself a favor personality-wise.
Thoughts?
It actually worked better than I thought it would, even though I could tell my delivery of the opener was mediocre at best. She was a solid 8, and while her answer was "no", it actually started a normal conversation, etc. and she gave signals that she was reasonably into me. Solid kino, eye contact, she called me "cute", etc. I did not get the "shock and awe" response -- while she said no one had ever asked her that before, she didn't seem terribly freaked out by it. A bit later, when she was leaving, she finally admitted that she still thought it was a little crazy that I had asked that, and said "I'm sure there's at least one girl here who would say yes." Unfortunately I didn't quite have the balls to try it a second time (I did some more standard approaches instead). Also, I misread her level of interest (wasn't thinking quite straight) and am almost 100% sure I could have gotten a number, if not a makeout. For starters, she insisted on a kiss on the cheek when she was leaving.
Anyway, so my new theory is that I should forget all this "indirect game" stuff (Mystery Method is the perfect example, where you pretend that you're not interested in order to get her interested) and just go straight for the direct stuff like this. It doesn't have to be this particular opener, but there are plenty of other direct approaches I can use, where you are immediately signaling that (1) you are interested and (2) your interest is sexual, not platonic. If you get blown off... who cares? That's actually a good thing, because then you're not wasting your time. I've only really been doing cold approaches for a month or two now, and I can already tell that there are plenty of girls who will be polite and friendly to an indirect approach, even though they have zero attraction to you. Heck, I just recently got a phone number where the girl picked up the phone and immediately hung up on me, without so much as a "bye", once she realized who was calling. The last thing you want is to spend an hour or even longer talking to a girl who doesn't really like you.
A related book that I just read: "Mode One: Let The Women Know What You're REALLY Thinking" by Alan Roger Currie. The ebook version is just $10. The theory of the book is similar to what I just said: by pretending that you are not interested in a woman when you really are, you are just wasting her time and yours. Instead, if you're open and up front about your interest, even if your interest is just to have casual sex -- you may get shot down, but you know you're dealing only with women who are actually attracted to you.
Even my other approaches tonight were also probably a little more direct than I've done in the past, and overall, the results were positive. In addition to the approach I already described, I also got a makeout with an 8 and a VERY hot 9-9.5. The 8 actually blew me off afterwards, but I got the 9's number. (I then proceeded to be a total moron and hit the wrong button in my cell phone, thereby losing the number, and tried to look for her out on the street but didn't see her.) While I came home empty-handed, I now have some confidence that I can probably do the same thing again another night.
The main potential downside I see to direct game is that you're relying more on your appearance and less on your personality -- but I'm not sure that that's entirely a bad thing if you're reasonably OK-looking but naturally have a somewhat "beta" personality as I do. And if girls are attracted to confidence, and if direct game shows confidence, you may even be doing yourself a favor personality-wise.
Thoughts?
