[CJ_W]

Mostly Vancouver. I know Toronto is bad.

Anyway, someone just told me that p4p was legal there. I was wondering, since that is pretty much legal there, do regular women act better/easier to get into bed with without all the games American women play? I figure that since men don't really have to deal with that to get their rocks off(they can just pay), the women there would be a lot better/easier.

I heard Quebec was awesome but what about the west coast of Canada?

[TheSlayer]

P4P isn't legal. The act of paying a hooker for sex is legal but the activities surrounding it are illegal such as running brothels, advertising for it, and living off the avails of prostitution etc. The major difference between Canada and the US is that here using P4P is extremely unlikely to get you booked. You won't hear stories about how cops busted men paying for hookers like you do so often in the US.

Anyway, I know you asked about Vancouver and not Toronto but that hasn't really changed the attitude of women in Canada. In Ontario (Toronto), there is an ongoing fight to fully legalize prostitution but the women keep on getting worse. I am sure Vancouver is the same and the games that American women play will be present here too.

Ask WesternCancer more about Vancouver. I think he's said the women there may not be as bad as Toronto but it's not a lot easier by any means.

[CJ_W]

(08-05-2013 08:47 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

P4P isn't legal. The act of paying a hooker for sex is legal but the activities surrounding it are illegal such as running brothels, advertising for it, and living off the avails of prostitution etc. The major difference between Canada and the US is that here using P4P is extremely unlikely to get you booked. You won't hear stories about how cops busted men paying for hookers like you do so often in the US.

Anyway, I know you asked about Vancouver and not Toronto but that hasn't really changed the attitude of women in Canada. In Ontario (Toronto), there is an ongoing fight to fully legalize prostitution but the women keep on getting worse. I am sure Vancouver is the same and the games that American women play will be present here too.

Ask WesternCancer more about Vancouver. I think he's said the women there may not be as bad as Toronto but it's not a lot easier by any means.

Ok, thanks for that, Guess I won't be visiting Canada anytime soon.

[Rang off the Pipe]

I know enough guys here say that women from the U.S. and Canada are similar, but I personally find Canadians to be a hell of a lot more approachable than many of the Americans I come across (mostly northeasterners and midwesterners). Even if a Canadian doesn't like you, she'll likely at least be polite. Americans tend to PMS more with strangers.


Oh...and having a strong interest in hockey helps.

[TheSlayer]

(08-05-2013 08:57 PM)CJ_W Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 08:47 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

P4P isn't legal. The act of paying a hooker for sex is legal but the activities surrounding it are illegal such as running brothels, advertising for it, and living off the avails of prostitution etc. The major difference between Canada and the US is that here using P4P is extremely unlikely to get you booked. You won't hear stories about how cops busted men paying for hookers like you do so often in the US.

Anyway, I know you asked about Vancouver and not Toronto but that hasn't really changed the attitude of women in Canada. In Ontario (Toronto), there is an ongoing fight to fully legalize prostitution but the women keep on getting worse. I am sure Vancouver is the same and the games that American women play will be present here too.

Ask WesternCancer more about Vancouver. I think he's said the women there may not be as bad as Toronto but it's not a lot easier by any means.

Ok, thanks for that, Guess I won't be visiting Canada anytime soon.

Visit Canada for the scenic beauty. It's still very beautiful although expensive. If you just wanted to come here for the women I would try Montreal. G is pretty big on Montreal and so are a few other members.

[MrRoundtree]

Montreal isn't easy by any mean in term of girls, but they are beautiful and stylish.

[rvlefty]

(08-05-2013 08:38 PM)CJ_W Wrote:  

Mostly Vancouver. I know Toronto is bad.

Anyway, someone just told me that p4p was legal there.

Huh, as legal as anywhere else in US/Canada. As in it's not - but then why are there so many escort ads in the back of the Georgia Straight... and I hear there are happy ending massage places too...

But that has zero effect on the attitudes of women here.

Thinking about other countries about where P4P IS 'legal', I don't think that has the effect you are thinking of either. Maybe the opposite, the locals get more guarded so they aren't associated with mongers.

(08-05-2013 08:38 PM)CJ_W Wrote:  

I heard Quebec was awesome but what about the west coast of Canada?

In general people seem to have thought that M-girls are more 'european' in nature... (friendly? less snobbish?)

[kinjutsu]

Vancouver is like the LA of Canada.
Montreal is like the NY of Canada. Although Toronto would tell you differently...

With Van city they climate is nice all year around. There is a wide variety of women available to swoop, however there is a high percentage of east asian women. Mainly Chinese, Japanese and Koreans. If this is what your into you'd be happy. If you like the European look then head to montreal. The place is brutally cold in winter but summer is amazing.
I've been there a few times this year and i never regret it.

With all of that being said you'll still need to game these girl like the Americans, but just not as harshly.

[wsidemd]

kinjitsu, how about ease of girls? Vancouver or Montreal?

[WesternCancer]

What kinjitsu means when he says van is nice year round is that it doesn't get to -20 with 3 feet of snow. It's mostly overcast and rainy but this summer has been particularly great. 2 months and 2 rainy days. I just wish I was still in van. The beaches are probably poosy paradise right about now. Lots of hot Asians, but I never had much success with them.

As for the women I only have where I'm living to really compare to (a smaller town). Van girls can seem stuck up during the day, they have bitch faces and don't make eye contact. Most likely because that's the culture and if you make eye contact with someone yheres a good chance they're a panhandler or something. However, they're all friendly during the day. I've never had a girl be a bitch. If they don't like you they'll just look away and answer politely in one word answers

At night in the more popular bars/clubs the girls have a Jekyll/Hyde transformation. Typical attitudes, very cliquey with friends, bitchy to guys etc. I never got the change to frequent more "locals only" places. The popular places are filled with people who commute in and I think that's the reason for the attitudes. There was a subtle difference in girls attitudes at the Ubc bar. Felt more like a house party than anything. Logistics are primo there too.

I'd say the easiest girls would be the average looking hipster type. The ones that aren't the hottest in their social group so they don't get as much thirsty attention. If you don't abang them on the first date they tend to start getting flaky, probably because they're fucking like 3 other dudes at the same time.

[wsidemd]

WC, thanks for the input. I'm not feeling optimistic at all about setting up shop in Vancouver. I'll still visit, but none of that sounded positive. Not particularly into Asians anyway though I'm half-decent there.

[kinjutsu]

In Van social circle game would be greatly beneficial. Like WC said at night girl are extremely cliquey. If nobody knows you they wont talk with you.
A combination of pre-selection and social circle game will the be key to success there.
You can cold approach like a mofo but if you don't have the right "look" for the girl you're approaching then they'll politely ignore you. Seen it happen tons of times.
Stay away from East Hasting and Chinatown. Lots of homeless drug addicts there.

[Laner]

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Stay away from East Hasting and Chinatown

Chinatown (Vancouver) is an up and comer. There are some dope spots there and a surprising amount of talent. Hidden gems.

But yeah keep your head up. I wouldnt say dangerous, but seedy. Honduran youth gangs just east of Chinatown can still be around from time to time, and they will roll you.