Quote: (08-05-2013 10:03 AM)Ocelot Wrote:
There are a couple of problems with this. Yes, a double standard exists within our society in that the majority embraces "feminism", but then treats what men do to women differently to what women do to men. I mean, it's hardly any great revelation that feminism doesn't do what it says on the tin.
On the other hand, men and women are actually different; part of being red pill is understanding and accepting that. The trauma rape inflicts on women, and the fear they have of being raped is an evolutionary response to what would have been a real threat to their progeny 20,000 years ago. No such threat existed for men; in fact, even if they were 'raped' by the most sub-standard specimen, it would probably be to their benefit. Twenty minutes of their time, and a packet of semen which constantly regenerates is a lot less of an investment than 9 months gestation, and risk to one's life. If you want a real male equivalent to women being raped, being cuckolded and spending your productive years bringing up children that aren't your own is about the same (imo).
If you want to talk about evolutionary psychology, you could just as well argue that we did not evolve to hyper-analyze our behavior in terms of natural selection.
I do think the manosphere spends far too much time talking about evolution. For example, Heartiste looks at everything through an evolutionary prism.
Frankly, I think it's misguided. In philosophy there's a centuries old debate over the "is-ought" issue and the naturalistic fallacy. Basically, the question is this: just because something is, does that automatically mean it should ought to be? So in this case, even if the sexes evolved a certain way, should we blindly endorse the difference as virtuous?
To take the rape example - let's be clear. Most animals, including primates, rape as a matter of course. Animals as widely separated in evolutionary time as Komodo dragons and Bengal tigers mate the same way: the male forcefully pursues the female and imposes himself on her by biting and scratching her. In fact, this is likely the origin of the female rape fantasy. But simply because rape "is" a fact of human biology, does that make it right? And by the same token, just because men and women may process rape differently, should the law privilege women as a result?
Maybe, but simply demonstrating the evolutionary origins of some behavior or social practice shouldn't settle the issue.
