[Every10GivesMeA10]

The Geting Jumped When You Are with a Girl thread made me think.

Lets say you've been fucking this girl for quite a while and go out often.

What do you do if guys openly flirt with your girl when you two are in public?

[Basil Ransom]

I don't openly compete with other men for girls. It's completely self-abasing and no girl is worth it.

1. If some guy flirts with her, I'll pinch her ass and ignore him.
2. If she physically left my side to talk to some guy, I'd abandon her at the venue.

I have nothing against a guy mildly flirting with my girl - I could be a platonic friend, for all he knows. Game recognize game. Any dude who would get mad at that is a fucking idiot with a Napoleon complex. If he finds out I'm with her and continues, I'll nudge her along. Cool dudes know their girl is hot, and that guys will try to hit on her. The test is not that you hit on her, it's what you do after you find out she's taken.

At the end of the day, she holds the power. If she wants to fuck another guy in front of you, she will, and there's nothing you can do about it. Instead of making yourself a bitch by trying to prevent the inevitable, just roll with it, and reserve the right to mack other chicks if it came down to it. If you were serious with a girl and she pulled this move, you should thank the guy, for outing what an unfaithful whore she is - plus he did you the favor of taking her off your hands!

95% of the time, this 'what would you do to the other guy' is just male cattiness. There is no clear status of hierarchy among a random group of men, so many men are anxious to resort to displays of violence to feel high status, the same way bitches might flash expensive purses and Louboutins to show how high status they are. Why would any man buy into this stupid game? He'd be a fool to.

That said, for a one-night stand situation, I'll generally try and shield her from other men, sometimes even (shitty) wingmen. In that situation, her decision of who to fuck that night can change on a dime, so you minimize risk by keeping her away from interlopers.

[Hoodlum]

Depends on how he did it. If he just started talking to her, then I'd just laugh it off, knowing he has no chance if she's with me. If he says something offensive, then I'll confront him and tell him to watch his fucking mouth.

I'd only care if I was seeing the girl and liked her. If it's just some ho I've pulled that I didn't really care about, then whatever.

[A War You Cannot Win]

I consider it a compliment.

You know that feeling when you walk into a venue and all the guys stare at your girl because she's the hottest girl in there? You know they're probably thinking 'What does he have that I don't?'

[DVY]

Usually, I just smile. If she gives me the "help" eyes, Ill watch her flounder for a bit and then when shes really jumping up and down I will go "save her".

If its an aggressive type, I put my hand out and if she grabs it, I put my arm around her.

Or I might walk up and slap her butt. No guy can maintain composure w/a girl whose ass just got spanked.

Depends really...

[Dr. Howard]

I am also on the 'it depends' spectrum. There are two ways that this has split for me.

1. The guy hits on the girl and is talking to her and staring at her tits or whatever. The girl with either include me or I'll include myself in the conversation and that ends it. The guy might say something like "wow, nice work man" which is cool and he's on his way. Or if the guy doesn't get it and tries some sort of ridiculous "what are you doing with this guy" counter move and the girl then rips into him. Also fine.

2. The one that hasn't gone well for me is when the guy hits on the girl, figures out that you're with her and then tries to stare me down while continuing to hit on her. At that point he's not gaming her he's just trying to start shit with me. The only success I've had here is advising the girl that we should leave unless she wants her night ruined by a whole bunch of blood. Engaging in the fight or confrontation just ensures that I will not be getting laid.

[Cr33pin]

This shit happens to me all the time. I can't remember a instance where it was out of control and something had to be done. Most time I just walk up to her an put my arm around her and join the conversation in a friendly manner. Sometimes I would have some fun with it and not let the guy know I was with her and hype the guy up like I was trying to hook her up with him... No one ever got to butt hurt when they found out I was with her.

Unless the situation gets bad and they are being physical or saying some really foul shit I'm not gonna duke it out with some stranger cause they want in my girlfriends pants.

[Tuthmosis]

Another vote for it really depends.

I've had guys holler at my girl before. The last time it happened, it was with an LTR. We'd gone to a meat-market venue where you'd expect something like this to happen. I went to the bathroom for like 90 seconds and came back to a guy with his arm on the wall talking to my chick. Her body language seemed closed off, but she was nodding at what he was saying. She might have been waiting for me to swoop in and "save her."

But, I didn't.

Since the place was crowded, I hung back, tucked in right behind them, and listened to the guy's game and--more importantly--to see what she did (and how she did it). The guy was good-looking and stylish (no homo).

From what I could hear, he was spitting some game about how this music resembled something from his travels (game recognized). He asked my girl about her travels and if she was a dancer, since she "looked like one" (she was). She was polite until he asked her to dance, at which point she said, "I'm waiting for my boyfriend."

When he bounced, I made my presence known. I told her she should have slipped that guy her phone number and "upgraded." I added that his game was tight. She said, "No, he was trying too hard and you're better. Come dance with me."

[Kabal]

(07-20-2013 12:56 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Another vote for it really depends.

I've had guys holler at my girl before. The last time it happened, it was with an LTR. We'd gone to a meat-market venue where you'd expect something like this to happen. I went to the bathroom for like 90 seconds and came back to a guy with his arm on the wall talking to my chick. Her body language seemed closed off, but she was nodding at what he was saying. She might have been waiting for me to swoop in and "save her."

But, I didn't.

Since the place was crowded, I hung back, tucked in right behind them, and listened to the guy's game and--more importantly--to see what she did (and how she did it). The guy was good-looking and stylish (no homo).

From what I could hear, he was spitting some game about how this music resembled something from his travels (game recognized). He asked my girl about her travels and if she was a dancer, since she "looked like one" (she was). She was polite until he asked her to dance, at which point she said, "I'm waiting for my boyfriend."

When he bounced, I made my presence known. I told her she should have slipped that guy her phone number and "upgraded." I added that his game was tight. She said, "No, he was trying too hard and you're better. Come dance with me."

That's always music to one's ears--girl reaffirming your awesomness explicitly.

Unsolicited mentioning of travels.

Cold reading your girl.

Attempt to move her from talking to dancing.

You should had asked the guy for his RooshV forum name.

[soup]

(07-20-2013 04:24 AM)basilransom Wrote:  

I don't openly compete with other men for girls. It's completely self-abasing and no girl is worth it.

1. If some guy flirts with her, I'll pinch her ass and ignore him.
2. If she physically left my side to talk to some guy, I'd abandon her at the venue.

I have nothing against a guy mildly flirting with my girl - I could be a platonic friend, for all he knows. Game recognize game. Any dude who would get mad at that is a fucking idiot with a Napoleon complex. If he finds out I'm with her and continues, I'll nudge her along. Cool dudes know their girl is hot, and that guys will try to hit on her. The test is not that you hit on her, it's what you do after you find out she's taken.

At the end of the day, she holds the power. If she wants to fuck another guy in front of you, she will, and there's nothing you can do about it. Instead of making yourself a bitch by trying to prevent the inevitable, just roll with it, and reserve the right to mack other chicks if it came down to it. If you were serious with a girl and she pulled this move, you should thank the guy, for outing what an unfaithful whore she is - plus he did you the favor of taking her off your hands!

95% of the time, this 'what would you do to the other guy' is just male cattiness. There is no clear status of hierarchy among a random group of men, so many men are anxious to resort to displays of violence to feel high status, the same way bitches might flash expensive purses and Louboutins to show how high status they are. Why would any man buy into this stupid game? He'd be a fool to.

That said, for a one-night stand situation, I'll generally try and shield her from other men, sometimes even (shitty) wingmen. In that situation, her decision of who to fuck that night can change on a dime, so you minimize risk by keeping her away from interlopers.

I disagree.

WE hold the power.

If a guy comes up to me and a girl and just starts talking to her while ignoring me, I know that he's already lost the battle.

Why?

Because any newbie can tell you that when you approach a group, you must talk to everybody, and especially give deference to males. You have to be down with the guy.

So, from the get go, I know that this joker doesn't have as good game or experience that I have.

This is when the fun begins and you can actually start toying with him. You can get your girl in on the fun and laugh about it later with her (this also helps build your bond with her).

Another thing that I do is physically block him off from her. Funny, the girl in this video looks kind of like the Danish girl.

This happened last night when I was hanging with the Danish model-ish chick.

I left her with her friends for second to use the bathroom (avoid this), and of course there was a guy talking to her when I returned because she's attractive.

I just walked up and inserted myself between them and put my arm around her waist.

Her balked at it, but I contrasted that aggressive move by being nice to him.

Then I framed the entire conversation to pull the rug out from under him and send him home (literally).

He was trying to play the lost foreigner card.

I directed him to the nearest subway, and then I took my girl and left with her.


------

I wish that guys would get their group game together. This is the most frequent mistake I see guys doing.

They are walking around with a tiny social intelligence where they can't recognize the proper way to talk to a group of strangers.

There are so many insulting implications when you just go right for the girl.

You insult the guys in the group when you should be befriending them.

You also insinuate that the girl is a slut and that her social circle- something that she believes has value, is meaningless.

Of course we know that she can be turned out into a slut, but the art of all this is to be discreet.

She needs to know that if she does go off with you to have fun, that you will be able to comport yourself in a way that preserves her relationship to society. This is real comfort. Women care more about the group than anything.

[speakeasy]

I was once walking down the street with a girl who I wasn't dating. She was cute though. But to anyone that didn't know they'd have thought we were a couple. A couple Mexican dudes walking past us said to her, "hey nice legs" or some comment about her body like that. I didn't say anything since this wasn't my girl nor were we on a date. But for all these dudes knew, I could've been her fucking husband. I actually felt pissed off. Not out of any jealousy, but because these dudes were brazen enough to disrespect me and make a comment like that not knowing our situation. I turned around and maddogged them and kept going. At the end of the day, why would I get in a fight over a girl I'm not even fucking? But still...I was pissed at the disrespect.

[WestIndianArchie]

Of course. If you're bagging quality chicks, especially if they look accessible, you're gonna run into this. Hell even bummy run of the mill chicks face this.

2 typical scenarios

1. You walking arm in arm with a chick and a dude steps up or calls out- you're getting disrespected
2. She's getting macked on when you're not there -standard m.o.

Scenario 1 is the one that can result in a fight.
Typically I do an ass squeeze and do the "chin up"/wink/nod at dude.

But if a cat wants to get bold, shit ain't got anything to do with your girl, and it's all about trying to punk you. Maybe as a young cat I might win a fight, but I got too much riding nowadays to engage in fisticuffs. So you gotta tool him for the crowd, not just for your girl.

"oh, you tryna holla at my girl..."
"everybody, check this out"
"go on spit your lines real quick"
"speak up, so we can hear you"
"how he doing baby"
"not too good"
"his breath stank?"
"lemme show you how it's done"

Scenario 2 - it's a test of how a chick feels about you and how sharp his game is.

When you're the interloper, and she says, I gotta boyfriend/I gotta man..

The response is, "Do you love him..."
And the follow up is, "you hesitated"

WIA

[Roosh]

Amog handshake:

[Beyond Borders]

I encourage it.

It gives me a chance not to give a shit, which makes me look better.

[Basil Ransom]

Quote:

This is when the fun begins and you can actually start toying with him. You can get your girl in on the fun and laugh about it later with her (this also helps build your bond with her).

Another thing that I do is physically block him off from her. Funny, the girl in this video looks kind of like the Danish girl.

If you're talking about a girl you just met, yeah, those techniques have value. But the question was about a girl you're already fucking.

If you're already fucking a girl, and she's stepping out on you right in front of your face, there's little you can do beyond what I said. Plus, I wouldn't want to continue dealing with such a disrespectful whore - no pussy is worth that self-abasement. Recognizing your powerlessnes is actually empowering, because it lets you acknowledge that you've lost, so you set out on a new path instead, i.e. macking other girls. The sooner you accept defeat, the sooner you start winning again.

[The Beast1]

(07-21-2013 07:54 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Amog handshake:

I've had guys try and do this to me.

It takes a lot for me to lose my balance, so when it "appears" that i'm falling back, I give his hand a good yank and he loses his balance.

A good one liner i use to retort that is, "Maybe we don't make good dancing buddies."

[A War You Cannot Win]

(07-21-2013 07:54 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Amog handshake:

Some guy tried that on me. I had my walking cane in my other hand and didn't budge an inch. Everyone looked at him like he was retarded. I had no idea what he was trying to do until now.

[MikeCF]

Funny Vegas story.

I was with my girl and another couple. She's dancing and I just stand around talking to my boy (who is bigger than me and has a much quicker fuse).

A guy comes up and starts to try grinding from behind on my girl. I smile, shave my head "no," and wave him off. He makes eye contact with me, disregards my instructions, and keeps going for it.

So I immediately shove him about 3 feet.

My friend sees this and then pushes ME out of the way and then shoves the guy another 5 feet. My friend and I are about to get into a fight over who is going to get at this guy.

It was the funniest thing. The guy had a total deer in the headlights look. Usually someone will talk shit or try to save face, but he was just overwhelmed by the immediate show of force.

A bouncer came over, we greased him, and then apologized to the guy.

The guy was over with his friends and we went to apologize/cool things off. They just looked weirded out and wanted to get away.

So if it's an issue of disrespect by the guy, you gotta handle it.

If your girl flirts with a guy, find another girl.

My answer to all of these questions can be answered by the Notorious B-I-G: "I don't chase them, I replace them."

I mean....Come on...Is she your soul mate?

If she is your soul mate, she's not gonna be flirting with other guys. If she is flirting, then your girlfriend is a dumb bar whore.

You can always find more bar whores, ya know? So why care if she's flirting?

[InternationPlayboy]

I have a lot of confidence in myself, so I don't really give a shit. I know at the end of the night she's coming home with me. If he's going to far I'll do something like basil said, like pinch her ass. If the dude is openly disrespecting me I'll definitely say something. Being jealous is going to turn a girl off. Show that you are confident with yourself.

I've had dudes come up and try and grind on my girl while she's dancing and I'm sitting watching because I'm tired. A dude came up and grinded on her and I just shake me hand in the "nope" gesture and that was enough. If it wouldn't have been I would have walked up close to him and tell him he needs to fuck off and get lost.

[philly22]

Legal question- say you're out at a bar and a guy is talking shit. If you get in a fight you face legal consequences because no one will know who started it. My question is- are you allowed to pull out your phone and video the situation of him being the aggressor/starting the fight. This would be done in a way to protect yourself legally.

[A War You Cannot Win]

(08-02-2013 09:05 PM)philly22 Wrote:  

Legal question- say you're out at a bar and a guy is talking shit. If you get in a fight you face legal consequences because no one will know who started it. My question is- are you allowed to pull out your phone and video the situation of him being the aggressor/starting the fight. This would be done in a way to protect yourself legally.

Sounds like a great way to get punched in the face as you're fumbling for your phone in your pocket.

[Gmac]

Not worried in the least bit when guys hit on my girl.

[philly22]

(08-02-2013 09:34 PM)A War You Cannot Win Wrote:  

(08-02-2013 09:05 PM)philly22 Wrote:  

Legal question- say you're out at a bar and a guy is talking shit. If you get in a fight you face legal consequences because no one will know who started it. My question is- are you allowed to pull out your phone and video the situation of him being the aggressor/starting the fight. This would be done in a way to protect yourself legally.

Sounds like a great way to get punched in the face as you're fumbling for your phone in your pocket.

I'm not talking about taking your phone out as a guy is running at you. Usually you can see these situations coming on. Take your phone out put the video on and back in pocket- you would at least have audio of him being aggressive. Basically I want to know if its legal to do this in bars.

[LeBeau]

(08-02-2013 09:44 PM)philly22 Wrote:  

(08-02-2013 09:34 PM)A War You Cannot Win Wrote:  

(08-02-2013 09:05 PM)philly22 Wrote:  

Legal question- say you're out at a bar and a guy is talking shit. If you get in a fight you face legal consequences because no one will know who started it. My question is- are you allowed to pull out your phone and video the situation of him being the aggressor/starting the fight. This would be done in a way to protect yourself legally.

Sounds like a great way to get punched in the face as you're fumbling for your phone in your pocket.

I'm not talking about taking your phone out as a guy is running at you. Usually you can see these situations coming on. Take your phone out put the video on and back in pocket- you would at least have audio of him being aggressive. Basically I want to know if its legal to do this in bars.

How powerful is your audio recording that it can pick up specific conversations while in your back pocket facing away from you?

And don't the bars you go to play music?